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    JIT-AGREEMENT HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO JANUARY 1, 2018; FOCUS OF INVESTIGATION ON PERPETRATORS

    https://www.om.nl/actueel/nieuwsberi...ght-mh17-shot/

    Now that we have established what happened, the investigation now focuses on the perpetrators. This will be a matter for the long haul. So far, the JIT has identified approximately 100 people who can be linked to the downing of MH17 or the transport of the BUK-TELAR. The JIT has been investigating these people through various sources, such as intercepted telephone conversations and witness statements.

    In addition, an investigation is conducted into the chain of command. Who gave the order to bring the BUK-TELAR into Ukraine and who gave the order to shoot down flight MH17? Did the crew decide for themselves or did they execute a command from their superiors? This is important when determining the offences committed by the alleged perpetrators.


    The JIT wishes to emphasise that it continues to seek additional information and evidence, including information from insider witnesses. Ukrainian law provides for lower sentences, and in certain circumstances relief from criminal liability, for those who cooperate with the investigation.

    Furthermore, the website www.jitmh17.com now includes a number of intercepted telephone conversations. The JIT is now asking for information about certain people who participated in these conversations. People who can identify these voices are requested to report this to the JIT.

    The JIT will be actively involved in the investigation in the coming period and for that reason the JIT agreement was extended yesterday, until 1 January 2018.


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    Christopher Miller Verified account
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    Correspondent @RFERL. Bylines @mashable @TheTimes @Telegraph @GlobalPost. 6+ years in Ukraine with stops in Russia, Greece, Turkey.


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    "Inside MH17: An eerie look at the interior of the packed jet shot down by a Russian missile two years ago - after engineers painstakingly reconstructed the wreckage"

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4NGUJ1xtd

    Difficult to see the plane in this state those poor people onboard.

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    ITEMS RELATING TO MH17 WERE RIGHTFULLY SEIZED - BONE FRAGMENT FOUND OF PASSENGER IDENTIFIED IN 2014

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    The forensic investigation into items taken out of Ukraine by Dutch journalist Michel Spekkers which were possibly related to the MH17 crash has shown that one of the items is a fragment of human bone. The other items were also investigated and found not to be relevant to the criminal investigation.

    DNA testing carried out by the Netherlands Forensic Institute established that the bone fragment is from a passenger whose identity was established in 2014. The victim’s next-of-kin have been informed.

    (...)

    In the past few days there has been much discussion on social media on the journalist’s actions and those of the police. The impression has sometimes been given that the area in eastern Ukraine where MH17 was downed is freely accessible to the Joint Investigation Team (JIT). This is not the case, due to national and international legislation on legal assistance in criminal cases. After all, the self-proclaimed republics DPR and LPR are not recognised as autonomous states.

    The MH17 repatriation mission was concluded in April 2015, with a final visit to the crash site to collect personal belongings and wreckage from local people (https://www.government.nl/ministries...-mission-ended). It is still possible that items relating to the disaster could be found at the crash site. Now that the cause of the crash has been established beyond any doubt, actively searching for wreckage no longer serves any purpose within the criminal investigation. However, it has been agreed with contacts in the area that any material found there (including victims’ remains) can be handed in. There is regular contact with them to check the state of affairs in that respect, and additional contact was made following Mr Spekkers’ finds.


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    BELLINGCAT: IDENTIFYING KHMURYI, THE MAJOR GENERAL LINKED TO THE DOWNING OF MH17


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    FIRST TREES HAVE BEEN PLANTED FOR THE MH17 MEMORIAL NEAR AMSTERDAM AIRPORT

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    AUSTRALIA: MH17 PERPETRATORS MAY BE TRIED IN ABSENTIA

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    The perpetrators who brought down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 in July 2014, killing all 298 aboard, may be tried in absentia, Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said on Sunday.

    Most of those on board the Boeing 777 were Dutch, but others came from 17 countries, including 38 Australians.

    It was shot down by a Russian-made Buk missile over eastern Ukrainian territory held by pro-Russia separatists, the Dutch Safety Board concluded in 2015.

    Late in June, the Netherlands said suspects in the case would be tried in a Dutch court, and under Dutch law.

    Bishop said "every legal avenue" was being pursued, and urged Russia to comply with UN Security Council resolution 2166, authored by Australia.


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    Families unveil "living memorial"

    As the third anniversary of the tragedy dawns, no suspects have been arrested although it was announced this month that any trials will be held in The Netherlands.

    About 100 people are wanted in connection with the disaster, after Dutch-led investigators concluded the plane was shot down by a Russian-made BUK missile transported from Russia into areas held by pro-Russian rebels.

    The trees in the memorial will be surrounded by sunflowers, which bloom in July, and will "radiate a golden glow" over the trees, the foundation said.

    The flowers also represent "the sunflower fields in eastern Ukraine where some parts of the plane wreckage were found".

    Each of the trees bears the name of one of the victims. And at the heart of the forest of 11 different tree varieties is a steel memorial shaped like an eye, turned upwards looking at the skies.

    One apple tree has been dedicated to 16-year-old Gary, from Rotterdam, whose body has still not yet been identified.

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2...iving-memorial
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    TRIAL OF MH17 PERPETRATORS PROBLEMATIC

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    http://buitenland.eenvandaag.nl/tv-i...s_mh17_onzeker

    It remains to be seen if the perpetrators of flight MH17 will ever disappear behind the bars. There is even a chance that the whole trial will not happen. This is the opinion of Geert-Jan Knoops, professor of international criminal law, in an exclusive interview with EenVandaag. Next Monday it will be exactly 3 years since flight MH17 was downed over Ukraine.


    A bitter message for the surviving families of the 298 victims, including 196 Dutchmen. Almost three years after the fatal crash, the investigators of the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) have not yet managed to identify potential perpetrators. In fact, the investigation appears to be stalling. The JIT has not published anything about the investigation for nearly a year. This to the great frustration of the relatives.

    What JIT has published is that the plane was downed by a Russian BUK rocket. Who launched the rocket remains unclear for now, but it has been determined that the rocket originated from Russia and that it was launched from a spot that was currently under the control of separatists.

    Investigators of journalism investigative group Bellingcat and other investigation journalists concluded that the 53th air defense missile brigade from the Kursk city of Kursk had to be involved in the downing of MH17. The role of the Russians seems therefore evident. Big question remains whether they will collaborate with the investigation and trial of potential Russian suspects. According to Knoops, that chance is very small because the Russian constitution prohibits the extradition of nationals.

    A JIT spokesperson does not want to address any problems surrounding a possible criminal trial. Neither Prime Minister Rutte wants to cooperate because "our attention is currently focused on the relatives".


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    In the report a video with an interview with Rob Frederiksz and Silene Fredriksz-Hoogzand, parents of MH17 passenger Bryce Frederiksz.
    Bryce and his girlfriend Daisy Oehlers had seats in the middle part of the plane.
    From an earlier interview:
    "Passengers who were sitting there, were cremated in the air," says Rob says."Our hope to get their bodies back, we have had to adjust that over and again," Silene says. "I've had to adjust eighty times."
    At last, Bryce's right foot was found. And a small piece of Daisy's pelvic bone. Later a few more bones. Finally, nineteen pieces of both, including skull remains, were located.
    https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/07/17...518067-a477170
    Q What would you like to say to Rutte?
    RF Well, he knows that, because we often speak with him. And then we tell him that there needs to be more political pressure. But he says, I'm not going to interfere politically. With that criminal investigation.
    Q He said that to you?
    RF Yes that is what he tells us
    Q Because you spoke to him?
    RF We speak him regularly.
    SFH One of the points we have stressed the last time is the fact that Ukraine had not closed the airspace. That was actually a closed chapter for Dutch politics, but not for us. And he promised that it will be put on the agenda again.


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    Memorial Unveiled

    On July 5 the MH17 Joint Investigation Team signalled its intent to press charges against those who perpetrated the crime.

    The decision to prosecute was made jointly by the Australian, Belgian, Malaysian, Ukraine and Netherlands governments.

    Mr Bociurkiw said it was significant the Dutch have assumed jurisdiction over criminal trial which would be held in the Netherlands.

    He said the joint investigation team had an "incredible" amount of evidence and are on the verge of naming 100 suspects.

    "We can be pretty sure that those 100 suspects are all in Russia or in territories in Ukraine controlled by the Russian-backed rebels," he said.
    "The big question is whether Russia will give up it's own citizens for trial? That's doubtful as it is in it's constitution they don't do this."

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-1...terdam/8717398
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    I went to school with one of the passengers on this plane, actually I was in the same class as their sibling. It so weird to be able to read this and know i have passed this person in the halls or had brief conversation and years later they're on the news because they have passed away many miles away from home. its scary that ANYTHING can happen to anyone of us at anytime .

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