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  1. #61
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    Here is the "Beach Road" link:
    "The area where the women were found is strewn with trash. On Tuesday, the litter behind the Golden Key near the spot where the first body was found included an empty vodka bottle, a pair of black Jockey undershorts, a used condom wrapper and a battered copy of the James Patterson novel “Beach Road.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/22/nyregion/22slay.html
    The facts are now buried amongst theory, opinion and rumor.

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    So from what we know, John M Bittrolff's birth date is July 1, 1966. Is anyone aware of someone in his family with a birth date of July 31?

    I am NOT asking for purposes of sleuthing a family member. I found some info and I'm trying to figure out if it's actually connected to JMB, or if I can disregard the info. I'll be happy to share the info if I find that it is indeed connected to JB. (I hope that makes sense!)
    Fascinated by the psychology of serial killers. Obsessed with the LISK case and other possible Long Island serial killers.

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    "The area where the women were found is strewn with trash. On Tuesday, the litter behind the Golden Key near the spot where the first body was found included an empty vodka bottle, a pair of black Jockey undershorts, a used condom wrapper and a battered copy of the James Patterson novel “Beach Road.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/22/nyregion/22slay.html


    I've said it before and I'll say it again...people dump crap in remote areas. The only thing any of these object say to me is that someone might possibly have used this location for a quickie. Do I think the killer left the book as a clue? No, I don't.
    People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient, then repent. ~ Bob Dylan

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    Quote Originally Posted by LikeAHunter View Post
    So from what we know, John M Bittrolff's birth date is July 1, 1966. Is anyone aware of someone in his family with a birth date of July 31?

    I am NOT asking for purposes of sleuthing a family member. I found some info and I'm trying to figure out if it's actually connected to JMB, or if I can disregard the info. I'll be happy to share the info if I find that it is indeed connected to JB. (I hope that makes sense!)

    The 31st is his sons birthday, it is also the last day he was in court. Daddy pled not guilty on Jr's 18th birthday.
    Last edited by bessie; 08-04-2014 at 05:24 PM. Reason: fixed broken quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola Ford View Post

    The 31st is his sons birthday, it is also the last day he was in court. Daddy pled not guilty on Jr's 18th birthday.
    Thanks, Lola. I found a few usernames connected to JB's identity, and I was afraid they might actually be his son's. I didn't want to go researching them if it was the wrong person. Damn it! I thought I had some viable leads!
    Fascinated by the psychology of serial killers. Obsessed with the LISK case and other possible Long Island serial killers.

  6. #66
    I am little suspicious why a man of JB age, who has been a business owner for years and a highly regarded member of his community is barely searchable on line. I wonder, has information been removed on him;has he been in the witness protection program all these years; as so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threelittlebirdies View Post
    I am little suspicious why a man of JB age, who has been a business owner for years and a highly regarded member of his community is barely searchable on line.
    I think JB is an odd bird, to put it mildly. He's a "business owner" to the extent that he's got at least some level of handyman skills, and he owns a truck to put a logo on the side of. I think it's easy to overstate the community regard; one person says he's "like the mayor", there's reports that he attended his kid's athletic games - my guess is that nobody in the neighborhood was actually very close to him. And he's clearly not a "social media" person; that wouldn't have stopped him from trawling Craigslist, as he'd do that with an alias anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threelittlebirdies View Post
    I am little suspicious why a man of JB age, who has been a business owner for years and a highly regarded member of his community is barely searchable on line. I wonder, has information been removed on him;has he been in the witness protection program all these years; as so on.

    I agree, no trace of him online. I don't agree with the "highly regarded" comment. Manorville is a strange place, there are people who have a completely different opinion of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola Ford View Post
    I agree, no trace of him online. I don't agree with the "highly regarded" comment. Manorville is a strange place, there are people who have a completely different opinion of him.
    How is Manorville strange as I am no familiar with the area? Have you heard conflicting reports on how the people of the area regarded him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by threelittlebirdies View Post
    How is Manorville strange as I am no familiar with the area? Have you heard conflicting reports on how the people of the area regarded him?
    It's a town like no other, think of The Stepford Wives. Many people do not care for him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ktgirl View Post
    The POI that the article centers around seems mighty suspicious to me. I think he does protest too much about the sins of prostitution.
    as a side note, he spent time in and around san diego prior to atlantic city

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    Quote Originally Posted by threelittlebirdies View Post
    I am little suspicious why a man of JB age, who has been a business owner for years and a highly regarded member of his community is barely searchable on line. I wonder, has information been removed on him;has he been in the witness protection program all these years; as so on
    I thought, based on the fact that his very large extended family has a long standing history in the community and that he is easy to track with his high school and previous arrests, that he hasn't been in WP but that may be part of a criminal group, doing his job while also having a sick, sadistic and viscous side. I'm thinking how some of us had considered that the killer of prostitutes and young men may have been "taking care" of the problem employees on behalf of his employer.
    Last edited by Just K; 08-04-2014 at 10:28 PM.
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    Hi, Lola.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threelittlebirdies View Post
    I am little suspicious why a man of JB age, who has been a business owner for years and a highly regarded member of his community is barely searchable on line. I wonder, has information been removed on him;has he been in the witness protection program all these years; as so on.
    It really doesn't surprise me. Psychopaths don't feel emotions the way we do. They really don't care about their old classmates on FB or engaging in conversation on Twitter. They don't connect with others on a deep, emotional level. The "mayor" persona was most likely an act; a facade of normalcy.

    JMO...

    And besides, who has time for social media when you're raising and killing animals in the backyard?? LOL
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    I doubt that J. Bittrolff is LISK but it gives me a great deal of satisfaction to think that LISK is now possibly sweating on what he may have done wrong and where he may have stuffed up and left some form of DNA... that with new technology will call his arse out...LE will catch up with him...maybe not now...but they eventually will and the pathetic lie of a life he has created will be exposed....this pathetic excuse for human excrement will end up rotting in a jail cell I have no doubt of that...

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