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    NH - AH, 14, North Conway, 9 October 2013 - #15

    Arrest made in AH disappearance
    Gorham man charged with 'knowingly confining Hernandez'
    UPDATED 4:35 PM EDT Jul 28, 2014

    NORTH CONWAY, N.H. —An arrest was made Monday in the disappearance of New Hampshire teen AH who had been missing for nine months before her return home last week, the New Hampshire Attorney General's Office said.

    Nathaniel E. Kibby, 34, of Gorham, New Hampshire, was charged with one count of felony kidnapping for knowingly confining Hernandez on Oct. 9, 2013, in Conway, New Hampshire, with a purpose to commit an offense against her.

    Nathaniel E. Kibby, 34

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    NH - AH, 14, North Conway, 9 Oct 2013

    And from skibaboo's post:

    If you missed the press conference

    Raw Video: Authorities hold news conference after Kibby arraignment

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    Abby Hernandez's dad speaks out for the first time over her mysterious disappearance and return
    By Will Payne In North Conway, New Hampshire
    Published: 07:43 EST, 5 August 2014 | Updated: 08:33 EST, 5 August 2014

    The father of kidnapped Abigail Hernandez has spoken for the first time since his daughter mysteriously returned home and said, Im desperate for answers. Im as much in the dark as anyone else.

    Ruben Hernandez is overjoyed that Abigail is finally back with her mother, unharmed, nine months after she disappeared on her way home from school.

    But he says he is as baffled as everyone else about the way she suddenly went missing, days before her 15th birthday and then suddenly came home.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz39YJGMchL
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    Thank you Bessie, for your effort and circumspection.

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    Looks like I missed a detailed lawyer convo. Thanks to you all, I understand why the judge ruled the way he did and also why the state wanted to move the container and mobile home!
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    has the prosecution made a direct claim yet that they allege she was held in the shipping container?

    i have not seen it but there are several news sites claiming it (msm).

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    Liljim, the only thing I remember hearing is Jane Young saying in court that they were investigating and/or are very interested in one section of the shipping container. I do not recall her alleging that was the place of captivity. I did see it being stated as fact though in some MSM, the way some MSM outlets in NH still say the judge's order is pending on whether the state can move the trailer. In other words, some of the reporting doesn't seem all that accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlcya
    Having been schooled quite thoroughly on this now ruled upon issue I bid you all goodnight. Because really the only reason I can see for quoting a post of mine from prior to that decision at this point would be an effort to patronize.

    I am afraid that today of all days, my big girl panties are not nearly big enough for that.
    The court decision simply did not inform my choice to quote your post, which I then considered an active part of an active discussion. Although the court granted Kibby's motion on due process grounds, that is not to say that Kibby made only a due process argument. My intentions were good .

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    Quote Originally Posted by liljim View Post
    has the prosecution made a direct claim yet that they allege she was held in the shipping container?

    i have not seen it but there are several news sites claiming it (msm).
    Based on Kibby's latest hearing, I believe that no such claim has been made by the prosecutor.


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    I agree, about the container. The press is doing a lot of loose interpretation of the known facts about the container.

    What Young and officials have said about the container and what press is saying are very different.

    While arguing, Young described the container, saying it is split into three areas: “a front section, a middle section that takes up the bulk of the container and a third section that I will not go into details because the investigation is ongoing.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/details-alleged-kidnappers-shipping-container-secret/story?id=24868893

    that statement does suggest that LE believe that the third section may be involved in some illegal activity and that they are still investigating that aspect. Whether that possible illegal activity is related to the current charges and Abby's case or some other thing that was unrelated is a mystery because officials are not revealing why their focus seems to be there. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Without Peril View Post
    Based on Kibby's latest hearing, I believe that no such claim has been made by the prosecutor.
    IIRC, the prosecutor mentioned in the first hearing that the court was aware of one of the rooms in the storage container. That implies that some assertion was made by the prosecution to the judge, perhaps in getting a search warrant, that has not (yet) been articulated in a formal charge against Kibby.
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    http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/201...BZJ/story.html



    The New Hampshire man charged with kidnapping teenager Abigail Hernandez allegedly held the girl on his property for at least some of the time that she went missing, according to a judicial ruling issued in the case on Friday.

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    For all we know that "mystery section" is his grow room. I would be surprised if there was a ton of evidence in either of those places at this point. If Abby had clothing there, then surely he dumped it by now. I cannot imagine that they will find much more other than that Abby has been in that trailer at some point. This case is unusual in that he dropped her off and she gave a false description of kidnapper which gave him a ton of time to clean up the "crime scene".

    I know people here were very supportive of giving Abby time and not pressuring her to tell her story right away, but this is exactly why it cannot wait. I understand the instinct to protect a traumatized child, but the longer that goes on, the more time the perpetrator has to get rid of evidence. A victim in this situation is simply going to have to go through one more ordeal - telling LE what happened - before they get to "relax".

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