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    Ear-ons

    Did a cursory search of the site and didn't find much of anything on the East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker case. Thought I would start a thread on it. Here's a quick background from Wikipedia:

    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Night_Stalker"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Night_Stalker[/ame]

    The Original Night Stalker is the nickname for an unidentified serial killer and rapist who murdered six people in Southern California from 1979 through 1986[1]. The crimes attributed to this serial killer are not related to the crimes of Richard Ramirez, who was also dubbed The Night Stalker in the mid-1980s[2]. Six murders in Ventura, Dana Point and Irvine, California, have been linked by DNA evidence to the Original Night Stalker. The Original Night Stalker is considered one of the worst serial offenders in California, and American history, and is also connected to at least 50 other rapes in California, and is the most prolific unapprehended serial criminal in history since the Middle Ages.
    There have been was a truly excellent Cold Case Files episode dedicated to this case. As well as a very recent episode of THS Investigates. Both chronicle the crimes very well. What I have always found most interesting about this case is that very little is known (at least publicly) about the main suspects in this case.

    I have never heard of anyone being suspsected in this case as with other prolific Cold Cases, there are typically at least one or two prime suspects. With this one however, nada.

    Would love to hear any insights on this case that anyone has.

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    I saw that Cold Case Files as well. They were finally able to prove the EAR and ONS were the same person right?

    I was so confused by the name of the thread. I was thinking Ear-ons and imagining like fake Spock ears or something. Now it all makes sense.

    Edit to add: http://www.ear-ons.com/index2.html (great comprehensive website)
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    Interesting. They think the same guy was also the Visalia Ransacker in 1974. The guy broke into people's houses and ransacked the place but rarely took anything. Finally he tried to kidnap a girl from her home and killed her father in the process.
    The ransackings continued and LE actually almost caught the guy but he shot at them and got away.
    If this really is the same guy it creates quite a portrait of the evolution of a serial killer. He started small with burglaries, moved to rape and ultimately murder.
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    I could swear we had a topic on this case here already (in fact, I remember posting in it), but I can't find it either.
    I, too, saw both the CCF and THS Investigates shows on the case. Very creepy stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaia227 View Post
    Interesting. They think the same guy was also the Visalia Ransacker in 1974. The guy broke into people's houses and ransacked the place but rarely took anything. Finally he tried to kidnap a girl from her home and killed her father in the process.
    The ransackings continued and LE actually almost caught the guy but he shot at them and got away.
    If this really is the same guy it creates quite a portrait of the evolution of a serial killer. He started small with burglaries, moved to rape and ultimately murder.
    http://www.ear-ons.com/visalia.html
    Definitely seems as though he got more brazen as he continued to strike. To me the absolute creepiest attack is the one on the wife of the man who, in a town meeting regarding the EAR, said "I can't believe a man would just sit there while his wife is raped and not do anything". Shortly after that town hall, he and his wife were attacked by the EAR in their home, same m.o. That means the guy was right there with them in the town hall.

    I honestly can't believe this guy hasn't been caught. Given the wealth of DNA evidence in this case and the fact that they were able to link EAR attacks to ONS attacks... covers a lot of jurisdicitons. Either he completely stopped after 1986 or he died. I don't think he moved though, he seemed to really get off on being near his hunting ground. Maybe he had a life changing event kind of like say, Zodiac?

    I've read on other boards that people have eluded to the fact that there is a suspect in the case, a very good one at that. But there isn't enough evidence or something. In that case, I don't understand why LE doesn't do some dumpster diving or something to pick up his saliva on a cup or whatever.

    Anyone heard of any good suspects in this case? This is the type of case that makes the amateur detective in me want to go all Charles Bronson on this guy. This guy was the devil.

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    I'm suprised that they don't or didn't have suspects. The sketches shown of the suspect were very good and someone should have been recognized. They even have a recorded message from the maniac. Maybe there is some tip buried among hundreds that just hasn't been found yet or was overlooked years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zobsessed View Post
    Definitely seems as though he got more brazen as he continued to strike. To me the absolute creepiest attack is the one on the wife of the man who, in a town meeting regarding the EAR, said "I can't believe a man would just sit there while his wife is raped and not do anything". Shortly after that town hall, he and his wife were attacked by the EAR in their home, same m.o. That means the guy was right there with them in the town hall.
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    I don't think I had ever heard of that before. It is indeed very creepy.
    Most serial killers don't just stop without a reason like jail, death, maybe becoming religious, etc but it does happen. BTK is a good example. If he moved on and continued he must have decided to become very mobile and not concentrate on specific areas but started behaving more like Ted Bundy going from state to state.
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    I can't find any names as far as suspects. The Grim Sleeper in LA started killing in 1985 around the same time EAR/ONS disappeared. I think they have DNA in the GS killings too. I don't know if they have been compared. There is the issue of race as the GS is described as being a black male.

    GS is interesting because his reign has continued over decades. He has reared his head again in LA recently.
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    Bumping!

    Post, people, post! This is interesting!! One of the most prolific serial killers in US history is unknown and remains unsolved without any really good suspects.
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    Bumping. Cold Case Files just did a rerun of their episode about the EAR/ONS. It is truly a fascinating case. I would love to see some more discussion. There is so much focus on Zodiac and a few others which are of course interesting but ONS/EAR has raped and/or killed way more people and is one of the most prolific serial killers in American history.

    The message he left on one of his victims answering machine is honestly one of the most chilling things I have heard. It literally gave me goosebumps.

    Also the fact the man who stood up at the town hall meeting expressing his doubt that the ONS/EARS was able to subdue the male while he rapes his wife and then a few weeks later that same man was targeted by EAR/ONS. CREEPY. I wonder if the people at the meeting wore name tags or announced their name when they spoke at the mic or if the ONS followed this man home to find out where he lived.

    As of right now investigators are still actively investigating these murders and rapes and after getting the law passed forcing inmates to give DNA samples LE are having every man on death row who fits into the age group tested.

    A man like EAR/ONS doesn't just stop unless he either died, was arrested, decided to go dormant or only kill few and far between or he has become very transient committing murders all around the country so they would not be linked although I think this person likes the attention and would want people to know he is still out there and active. I mentioned before that I wonder if he could be the Grim Sleeper. Those attacks started happening about the time the ONS went dormant.
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    This is fascinating. Maybe you can add serious illness to the reasons he may have gone dormant. I am eager to read more on this. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogrannypop View Post
    This is fascinating. Maybe you can add serious illness to the reasons he may have gone dormant. I am eager to read more on this. Thanks!

    Yay! Someone posted!

    In case you missed the link up there this website is great:

    http://www.ear-ons.com/index2.html

    He could have become terminally ill. He could have been hit by a car and is now a quadrapelgic. Something stopped him. I really don't think he would have stopped on his own but stranger things have happened. Denis Radar did but he wasn't quite as prolific. (don't tell him I said that - it would definitely hurt his feelings).

    This man is a highly organized killer. The crime scenes, with the exception of one, were very organized, controlled, neat. That is in stark contrast to the crimes themselves which were brutal, violent and messy. He carefully researched his victims, seemed familar with their habits and targeted houses that were usually at the end of a block or dead end, close to a ditch which made for a quick get away on his bicycle.

    He is so interesting because you can look at his history of crimes starting in the 60's and see the evolution of a killer. He went from ransacking people's houses for no reason, graduated to rape and ultimately became the most prolific serial rapist in CA history with over 50 rapes and then he graduated from rape to murder. It was not until the mid-90's LE figured out by use of DNA that The East Area Rapist and The Original Night Stalker were the same person.
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    I hope he died a miserable death long ago, but I believe only that would stop him. That recording of his calling and chanting "gonna kill you" to one of his victims is frightening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txsvicki View Post
    I hope he died a miserable death long ago, but I believe only that would stop him. That recording of his calling and chanting "gonna kill you" to one of his victims is frightening.

    It is seriously creepy on many levels. Could you imagine having been assaulted by this man and now he is calling you; knowing that he knows where you live - he knows your phone number and worse he is thinking about you???? It just gives me the heebie-jeebies. Apparently he did it to several victims but that was the only one that was left on an answering machine.
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    I agree, he was bold. By leaving the messages, he not only was taunting the victims, but also LE because he seemed pretty secure that they would not/could not find him.
    Quote Originally Posted by gaia227 View Post
    It is seriously creepy on many levels. Could you imagine having been assaulted by this man and now he is calling you; knowing that he knows where you live - he knows your phone number and worse he is thinking about you???? It just gives me the heebie-jeebies. Apparently he did it to several victims but that was the only one that was left on an answering machine.

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