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    Bali - Sheila von Wiese Mack, 62, found dead in suitcase, 12 Aug 2014 #2

    'An American tourist's battered body has been found in a suitcase at an exclusive hotel on Indonesia's resort island of Bali and her daughter and daughter's boyfriend have been arrested over the killing, police said.

    The body of Sheila von Wiese Mack was found on Tuesday stuffed into a suitcase in the boot of a taxi in front of the five-star St Regis hotel in the upscale Nusa Dua resort area of Bali.'

    The 62 - year-old victim had been staying in the exclusive hotel with her daughter, Heather, 19, and her daughter's boyfriend, Tommy Schaefer, 21. She was found half naked and investigators say she had put up such a fierce struggle, she had broken her left hand.

    The US Embassy in Jakarta says it is aware of the arrests. There doesn't seem to be any information about where in the US the three are from.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-1...n-bali/5668728

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    Bali - Sheila von Wiese Macks body found in suitcase. Daughter, boyfriend charged #2

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    O/T Here's another

    Jailed Dutchman [JVS] in a hunger strike over decision to move him to a maximum-security prison
    http://www.georgianewsday.com/news/w...ty-prison.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quester View Post
    O/T Here's another

    Jailed Dutchman [JVS] in a hunger strike over decision to move him to a maximum-security prison
    http://www.georgianewsday.com/news/w...ty-prison.html
    Ah yes, Joran. I'm sure his money will get him back to his "hotel" prison soon. The Director will probably be moved instead. Thanks for the link, I posted it in his thread...

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...14-2012/page19

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    How is the Chicago atty going to pay this new atty he is supposedly looking for? I assume the new story (if there is one) will need a retainer, etc, since he won't be the police appointed atty. I assume HM has no money.

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    <modsnip>
    I would hope Heather's baby goes to Sheila's side of family, they seem more put together & respectable(if it goes to any family at all). TS's obviously was not a good upbringing judging by him.
    I am guessing HM totally exaggerated to Tommy about much money she had. He facebooked about how he thought Tiger Wood's caddy must be a millionaire - before or on arriving in bali....he probably completely assumed Heather & Sheila were part of some multi-million fortune due to being a naive idiot too.

    I hope Joran dies painfully from his hungerstrike too....ugly woman hater
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    I'm bringing over this post via neesaki from the Breaking News Thread:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...php?p=10897553

    Originally posted by neesaki:
    Sorry if already posted, I didn't see it here. http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/26...ad-in-suitcase

    Chicago area woman found dead in suitcase in Bali CHICAGO (FOX 32 News) -

    The body of a 62-year-old Chicago woman was found stuffed inside a suitcase on the Indonesian resort island of Bali, and police have arrested her daughter and her daughter's boyfriend in relation to the death. Sheila Von Wiese-Mack's body was found Tuesday inside the trunk of a taxi parked in front of an exclusive hotel in Bali's Nusa Dua area.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tristessa View Post
    <modsnip>
    I would hope Heather's baby goes to Sheila's side of family, they seem more put together & respectable(if it goes to any family at all). TS's obviously was not a good upbringing judging by him.
    I am guessing HM totally exaggerated to Tommy about much money she had. He facebooked about how he thought Tiger Wood's caddy must be a millionaire - before or on arriving in bali....he probably completely assumed Heather & Sheila were part of some multi-million fortune due to being a naive idiot too.

    I hope Joran dies painfully from his hungerstrike too....ugly woman hater
    Wait, so she is pregnant?
    Last edited by marlywings; 08-27-2014 at 08:16 AM. Reason: edited quote
    Don't take yourself so seriously... nobody else does.

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    yep she is confirmed pregnant - but it's no big deal - it actually just makes it seem slightly more premeditated (even if it probably wasn't) as she is two months along. it's not a big big deal I guess because she's in Asia & you know all the things about people working in rice fields right up to giving birth & then carrying on as normal... She won't get to keep it for long either in a prison environment.

    I was wondering if Sheila used James Mack's death as an excuse for Heather's bad behaviour and was too lenient to her from that.

    The man was 76 when Heather was 10/11 - it isn't like he would be able to do much to control her as a teenager either - he would be way more frail than Sheila. His death probably did affect HM a lot - but from the looks of things: Sheila definitely tried extra hard to make it up to her daughter - she probably told her family that it was the death that caused most of Heather's problems, because she was just trying to make them not to think of her daughter as a bad person....IDK?!

    I really wish we could know what Heather's friends think about her & what she's done now. The only thing I know is that someone who knew her had a FB status about how -he's scared to have kids after hearing about people in Chicago killing their family, - or something along those lines....some of her old friends liked that status - mostly sure he (& they)was thinking of Heather when he wrote it.

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    I can imagine her dad's passing affecting her a lot. Being daddy's princess myself I can relate to losing my collective sh... if my dad had passed while I was a teen, but this is BS. Unless a reputable psychiatrist can offer a reliable diagnosis, I think she suffers from being a horrible human being.
    Don't take yourself so seriously... nobody else does.


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    Moving this article over because it seems to capture a peek into the lives of the people involved.

    Woman accused of Bali suitcase murder had troubled family life in Chicago
    Friday 22 August 2014 12.15 EDT
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...y-life-chicago

    "While browsing through items at an estate sale in Oak Park, an upscale suburb west of Chicago,..."

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    There's also been discussion of a fb comment by TS the boyfriend in regard to whether this was a premeditated plan. I don't think we can see his fb comments anymore, but I could swear the comment about "not coming backk" was in July around the same time the credit card was used for the Chicago hotel. Ah, I see Quester has the exact date. I'm bumping the below in the event it contains some clues.

    Quester found and made note of the date he made that comment.

    Mon, 7/21/14 “Leaving Aug 4th for Indonesia might not come backkkk” TS wrote on his FB page according to DailyMail.co.uk

    Two days later our dynamic duo were partying it up at the Conrad Hotel paid for with SWM's credit card ... unauthorized.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tar-hotel.html


    Also moving this over.
    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rex View Post

    Just a little treasure from Gawker's comment section,
    Tommy's Instagrams:
    http://websta.me/n/tommyexx
    aaaaaaaaand....his male escort profile!
    http://www.companions4women.com/comp...Tommy+Exx.html

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    'I refuse to let someone say what I can do':
    Teen posted cryptic message before mother's body found in suitcase


    http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/0...P0Ge05dQgIK.99

    "On August 7, Mack's 19-year-old daughter Heather posted on Instagram a photo she presumably took from the window of their hotel, the five-star St. Regis, accompanied by the caption: "i refuse to let someone say what i can do, gettin (sic) money my attitude you know what it do #bali," the MailOnline reports."

    From the same article we find the couple's first version of what happened to her mother.
    "CNN reports that the couple told police they had been taken captive at the resort by an armed gang whose members killed Mack but they later managed to escape."

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    TIMELINE Bali - Sheila von Wiese Macks body found in suitcase. * MEDIA/TIMELINE*NO DISCUSSION*
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...3#post10883063

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    Quote Originally Posted by tristessa View Post
    <modsnip>
    I would hope Heather's baby goes to Sheila's side of family, they seem more put together & respectable(if it goes to any family at all). TS's obviously was not a good upbringing judging by him.
    I am guessing HM totally exaggerated to Tommy about much money she had. He facebooked about how he thought Tiger Wood's caddy must be a millionaire - before or on arriving in bali....he probably completely assumed Heather & Sheila were part of some multi-million fortune due to being a naive idiot too.

    I hope Joran dies painfully from his hungerstrike too....ugly woman hater
    I saw an article posted to TS's Facebook about his Mom and her pet duck. She seems like a nice lady and if the baby is her biological grandchild, I think she should be the one to take care of it if she would want to. It's unfair to judge her based on what her son did IMO. A "good upbringing" didn't do much for HM and there is nothing I've seen to indicate that TS did not have a "good upbringing". I've not seen that he was in any trouble with the law until he met HM.

    IMO, at this point she's supporting her son quietly and choosing not to get her 15 minutes via the media. I can respect that. If that changes I may rethink my opinion of her. Does anyone know if he has any siblings? Older ones might also be candidates to raise the baby. Not sure HM ever saw any of hers so I don't think they'd be good candidates.

    MOO
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