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    CA - Marin Co., WhtMale UP12220, 45-60, in wetsuit on hillside, May'13

    This is my first thread, please bear with me.

    Unidentified White Male
    found May 15, 2013
    Age- 45-60
    Weight- 180, Estimated
    Height- 6ft
    Condition- Decomposing/putrefaction
    Hair- Dark, grey and black chest hair
    Scars and marks- 1.5" horizontal scar on left upper chest and 2.5" diagonal right inguinal scar

    Clothing on body
    Black "Eddie Bauer" brand jacket (size medium); blue "Reebok" brand surfer typeshirt; black pair of "Kirkland Signature" brand jeans (size 32"x32"); black "Kenneth Cole Reaction" belt buckle (size 32); black full body "O'Neil" brand surf suit (size medium) (this was under the blue "Reebok" shirt); black "Bodyglove" hood with drawstring; pair of black "2(x) ist" underwear; black gloves

    Circumstances
    Moderately decomposed male found on land on the hillside above Kirby Cove. The subject was clad in a full body surfing suit, black gloves, and black neoprene booties underneath his clothes. The subject could not be visually identified due to moderate decomposition. Estimated time of death about 2-6 weeks.

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12220

    What do you think about Christopher Coggin?
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/ca...nt_page=photos

    I also found this on him, so we know he has at least bodyboarded before. Also might explain the small time between.
    http://www.mauinews.com/page/content...er.html?nav=10

    Problems with the match would be the broken neck and arm that Christopher Coggin had, and the scars the UID has, AND everything you guys will see that I didn't.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 09-08-2014 at 12:39 AM.

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    It's possible the arm and neck fractures wouldn't show up on an x-ray.

    Did you ever call this PM in?

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    No, I never called it in. I am not very good with that. Plus I wasn't sure if it was worthy of it. That's why I put it up here to get some opinions.

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    I'm sorry I didn't see this when you posted it. Will look at it tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Love143 View Post
    Clothing on body
    Black "Eddie Bauer" brand jacket (size medium); blue "Reebok" brand surfer typeshirt; black pair of "Kirkland Signature" brand jeans (size 32"x32"); black "Kenneth Cole Reaction" belt buckle (size 32); black full body "O'Neil" brand surf suit (size medium) (this was under the blue "Reebok" shirt); black "Bodyglove" hood with drawstring; pair of black "2(x) ist" underwear; black gloves

    Circumstances
    Moderately decomposed male found on land on the hillside above Kirby Cove. The subject was clad in a full body surfing suit, black gloves, and black neoprene booties underneath his clothes. The subject could not be visually identified due to moderate decomposition. Estimated time of death about 2-6 weeks.
    Snipped by me.

    My first read through of the OP, I was thinking, who wears t-shirt, jeans and belt buckle under a wetsuit? Then I reread the OP and realized the UID was wearing those things OVER the wetsuit. That's even stranger, isn't it?

    I think Christopher Coggin is a really good potential match. From the Maui article, we know Christopher is no stranger to the ocean and the timeframe works assuming Christopher was released on bail.

    What happened to Erica Jayne Franolich?
    Missing from Middleburgh, NY, October 1986

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    Around here, the surfers and windsailers tend to just put warm clothes on over the suit when they get out of the water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    Around here, the surfers and windsailers tend to just put warm clothes on over the suit when they get out of the water.
    I guess I'm used to only seeing people in wetsuits in warmer weather when you wouldn't bother to put anything on over the suit after getting out of the water.

    What you're saying makes perfect sense.

    What happened to Erica Jayne Franolich?
    Missing from Middleburgh, NY, October 1986

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    Just running a quick search on NamUs for white men who went missing on the west coast in the ~8 weeks prior to when this UID was found doesn't yield any promising results. Not finding much info on Chris Coggin, but what little we do have makes it seem possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redux View Post
    I guess I'm used to only seeing people in wetsuits in warmer weather when you wouldn't bother to put anything on over the suit after getting out of the water.

    What you're saying makes perfect sense.
    To me, it implies that he probably went missing in the winter months when it was quite chilly. Coggin would fit that, missing in February. February to May also fits the 2-6 month time line.

    Height and age match. Coggin is estimated to have been a bit heavier, but there's such a wide range on his stats (WTF?). UID's clothing sounds like it belongs to a smaller man but they say 72" so I dunno on that front.

    Washington CA to Kirby Cove is only about a three-hour drive, so it's entirely plausible he drove down for a day's surfing, kayaking, whatever it is they do in that part of the ocean at that time of year.

    This event was happening in Sausalito on Saturday, Feb 16, 2013 (the day Coggin went missing): http://sanfrancisco.eventful.com/eve...01-054390159-7 There was a "blue light" meteor the day before. There didn't seem to be anything interesting about the weather that weekend. In the fifties and sixties with afternoon fog, which sounds pretty warm but is cool enough to become hypothermic if you're wet.

    Given that a lot of the information is rather vague, he sounds like a very good possibility.
    Last edited by carbuff; 02-22-2015 at 01:32 PM. Reason: add the rest of my thoughts rather than start a new post
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    To me, it implies that he probably went missing in the winter months when it was quite chilly. Coggin would fit that, missing in February. February to May also fits the 2-6 month time line.
    The SF Bay is quite cold at all times. I don't think I've ever seen swimmers without wetsuits, although it may be possible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    To me, it implies that he probably went missing in the winter months when it was quite chilly. Coggin would fit that, missing in February. February to May also fits the 2-6 month time line.
    ...
    Given that a lot of the information is rather vague, he sounds like a very good possibility.
    You would be surprised by how counter-intuitive Bay Area weather is. February, for example, is often cited by locals as the best time to visit. "Summer" is often quite cold as the area is plagued by morning fog. And the water is so cold year-round that all the surfers I know use a wetsuit every time. I found this site with historical weather data
    https://weatherspark.com/history/315...-United-States
    It cites the warmest day of the year as May 2 (88 degrees). The hottest month of the year was September, with the average high temp of 73. So the weather is kind of "all over the place." March saw temp spikes up to the mid-70s and Feb got up to the mid-60s.

    I really wish that they would post a post-mortem interval estimate for this John Doe. Because in looking at the data, it's really hard to speculate on it.
    Freaky Factoid: The BTK killer taunted police in Wichita for years with cryptic letters riddled with poor grammar and spelling. So much so, in fact, that this particular trait became a part of popular culture among Wichita residents.
    One ordinary day, a woman teased her husband, who had always had trouble with spelling, that "[his] spelling is as bad as BTK's." Weeks later, her husband, Dennis Rader, would recount that story to police in an interrogation room, following his arrest for the BTK murders.

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    His Namus page says 2 to 6 weeks. Which is my bad; I thought it said months. That makes Coggin a little less likely. Still a good match, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    His Namus page says 2 to 6 weeks. Which is my bad; I thought it said months. That makes Coggin a little less likely. Still a good match, I think.
    Oh, I see it now. I usually look for that information under "Demographics" and I didn't realize that the case manager wrote it into the "Circumstances" section. My mistake. It's certainly a good possible. You should submit it.

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    Information from my boyfriend, authentic Bay Area surfer dude: This man died before he went surfing/abalone diving/sail-boarding/etc as evidenced by the wet suit under the clothes. "No surfer ever put their clothes back on over their suit after they get out of the water. You just don't do that. Guys will literally peel their suit off on the side of the road and put their clothes back on alongside their car."
    He also tells me that
    this man's car would have been abandoned somewhere nearby for a period of time before being stolen or towed away (most likely)
    or that he hitchhiked up there, which is quite common along the CA coastline. The practice of hitchhiking was very common until the 70s brought a rash of serial killers to the Bay Area, and then saw a resurgence in popularity that it still enjoys today.
    or that his friends ditched him there. Which is least likely, as surfing buddies are "closer than brothers" and have a kind of "bro code" that brands that kind of ditching as unforgivable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by micheleonelonly View Post
    Oh, I see it now. I usually look for that information under "Demographics" and I didn't realize that the case manager wrote it into the "Circumstances" section. My mistake. It's certainly a good possible. You should submit it.
    It's *supposed* to be under demographics. But experience has shown that important information might be put almost anywhere.
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