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    Brad Cooper Pleads Guilty to 2nd Degree Murder of Nancy Cooper

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    Just saw the article. Thanks!

    So, not an Alford Plea. If this article is correct, he will have to stand up in court and admit his guilt to the murder of his wife in exchange for a 2nd degree conviction.

    That's very big news, if this is what happens.

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    JUSTICE FOR MICHELLE AND RYLAN


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    Agreed, this is big news. And obviously changes things quite a bit.

    I cannot believe he would do this if he were not guilty.

    If he takes a plea, I hope he is forced to allocute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oenophile View Post
    Agreed, this is big news. And obviously changes things quite a bit.

    I cannot believe he would do this if he were not guilty.

    If he takes a plea, I hope he is forced to allocute.
    Yes, it is big news and I hope he accepts. Do another 7 and walk.....

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    Trying to think of any case locally in which allocution was required other than just pleading "guilty" to the charges. Anyone know? I've only followed a few cases locally and just in the past 5 years.

    I know I would not say I was guilty to a murder I didn't commit. That conviction stays with you forever once you accept it and declare yourself guilty.

    The way the article is written this is not an Alford plea. This is the real (I did it, I am guilty) deal.

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    If he takes the deal, it also implies that Brad doesn't think his chance for an acquittal in a 2nd trial would be very good. I guess Brad knows more than we do about the evidence.

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    If the DT had solid evidence that Brad's computer was hacked, I do not see any conceivable way that BC would take the plea. So since BC was granted a new trial I think it is reasonable to think DT does not have that evidence.

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    Well, to be fair, the defense never has to 'prove' innocence of any defendant. The burden to prove guilt B.A.R.D. rests 100% with the state, all the time, every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JusticeFever View Post
    Yes, it is big news and I hope he accepts. Do another 7 and walk.....
    I don't agree at all. If he is innocent, he shouldn't accept and he should fight based on the evidence. If he is guilty, he should do a lot more than 13 years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeleine74 View Post
    If he takes the deal, it also implies that Brad doesn't think his chance for an acquittal in a 2nd trial would be very good. I guess Brad knows more than we do about the evidence.
    I would rephrase this to say that it implies Brad's lawyers don't think his chance for an acquittal in a 2nd trial would be very good.

    I am wondering how much the Frye evidence fits into this. If the Frye evidence stands up under scrutiny, then it is enough (with the Google evidence) to convince even skeptics like me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oenophile View Post
    I don't agree at all. If he is innocent, he shouldn't accept and he should fight based on the evidence. If he is guilty, he should do a lot more than 13 years.
    Can't imagine being willing to stay in state prison one day longer if innocent. It's not like he'd be out in 2 years and time would fly. State prison is hard time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oenophile View Post
    I would rephrase this to say that it implies Brad's lawyers don't think his chance for an acquittal in a 2nd trial would be very good.

    I am wondering how much the Frye evidence fits into this. If the Frye evidence stands up under scrutiny, then it is enough (with the Google evidence) to convince even skeptics like me.
    They may not think his chances are very good, but ultimately the decision is Brad's to make. No one can force him to plead guilty. In fact he might be asked at the hearing if he's making this decision of his own free will. I don't know if they do that here in NC but it does get asked elsewhere.

    Brad knows Frye has that evidence and if the case were to go to a second trial, Frye would be called to testify to it. If I were in Brad's shoes, and I knew I had done the crime and that more evidence would come in, I would take the deal because I'd figure it was my best and possibly only shot at getting out some day. If I were innocent of the crime I could not bring myself to say I was guilty if I wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oenophile View Post
    I don't agree at all. If he is innocent, he shouldn't accept and he should fight based on the evidence. If he is guilty, he should do a lot more than 13 years.
    I don't think accepting a deal means BC is guilty or that he thinks this is his best chance to beat a Murder 1.
    A deal is nothing more than a settlement or compromise, and it is my opinion , that this case, just like Young's, has enough reasonable doubt .
    But, this is a new day for BC, a deal, a chance to have some part of his life back again....... If Nancy's parents have no problem with this, then why should anyone else?
    Take the deal, Brad........

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    Possible Plead Deal in the Works?

    Will Brad Cooper take a plea deal, rather than face another trial?

    Please continue here.

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