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    JLM: What Do We Know About Him?

    Who is Jesse Leroy Matthew, Jr.? What do we know about him?

    I'll move posts over from other threads to get this one started. Please feel free to add.

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    Given what we are learning about JLM Jr, does anyone think that he will admit to anything, ever? If he is linked genetically to any of the open cases, that we are aware of, does anyone think that he will tell where the remains can be found?

    I don't get the impression that he will give any details. Yesterday, I was leaning toward some joker that just snaps but after seeing his demeanor in court, seeing so many possible links (here on this thread) and the reports of the dismissed sexual assault at LU; I am almost 100% over feeling that he might have a conscience.
    The facts are now buried amongst theory, opinion and rumor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just K View Post
    Given what we are learning about JLM Jr, does anyone think that he will admit to anything, ever? If he is linked genetically to any of the open cases, that we are aware of, does anyone think that he will tell where the remains can be found?

    I don't get the impression that he will give any details. Yesterday, I was leaning toward some joker that just snaps but after seeing his demeanor in court, seeing so many possible links (here on this thread) and the reports of the dismissed sexual assault at LU; I am almost 100% over feeling that he might have a conscience.
    Two things give me a bit of hope he may. I'm in no way convinced he will, but I do think that these two points are ones that we don't see in all cases, and so am trying to be hopeful it's a possibility.

    First, he apparently does have some degree of faith background. Now not that people of faith don't murder, and not that he's shown himself to have a track record of making right choices, but a "come to Jesus" conversation with a pastor, or the actual football coach from the Christian school, or just someone else he respects makes me think there's a possibility he might.

    Second - and the bigger hope to me - is that in at least one past case, he did something bad, then became very contrite and wanted to make things right (the lawyer/assault/phone thing from 2009).

    I'm hoping it means there's a chance that he'll have another instance of being contrite and wanting to make things right/better - and in this case, the only thing I see that possibly being would be leading them to her and telling what happens.

    I do think that if they find evidence of him being involved in other cases that he'd much more likely lead them to Hannah. Perhaps we'd see a variation of what happened in the John Gardner case.

    JG led them to Amber's remains and was offered a plea deal. He was convicted for killing Chelsea King and Amber Dubois both, but they didn't seek the death penalty in exchange for leading them to Amber. He's serving two life sentences with no possibility of parole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelingBug View Post
    Two things give me a bit of hope he may. I'm in no way convinced he will, but I do think that these two points are ones that we don't see in all cases, and so am trying to be hopeful it's a possibility.

    First, he apparently does have some degree of faith background. Now not that people of faith don't murder, and not that he's shown himself to have a track record of making right choices, but a "come to Jesus" conversation with a pastor, or the actual football coach from the Christian school, or just someone else he respects makes me think there's a possibility he might.

    Second - and the bigger hope to me - is that in at least one past case, he did something bad, then became very contrite and wanted to make things right (the lawyer/assault/phone thing from 2009).

    I'm hoping it means there's a chance that he'll have another instance of being contrite and wanting to make things right/better - and in this case, the only thing I see that possibly being would be leading them to her and telling what happens.

    I do think that if they find evidence of him being involved in other cases that he'd much more likely lead them to Hannah. Perhaps we'd see a variation of what happened in the John Gardner case.

    JG led them to Amber's remains and was offered a plea deal. He was convicted for killing Chelsea King and Amber Dubois both, but they didn't seek the death penalty in exchange for leading them to Amber. He's serving two life sentences with no possibility of parole.
    The problem is that some people like that who are viewed by their church-going counterparts as a good person, have a lot invested in how they look to them. So, they will keep up the lie AT ALL COSTS... I'd rather know a non-church-going HONEST person, than a church-going DISHONEST person.

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    Has a photo of JM from the 2005 timeframe been posted? Could it be that in the ensuing nine years after his football days ended he gained weight? Also, this question may already have been asked but are his dreadlocks weaves or his real hair?
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    If JM was truly of marginalized intelligence, it's hard to believe that CNU would have admitted him, even with his athletic capabilities, and UVA would hire him to work in their surgical area? Opinions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePhantom View Post
    If JM was truly of marginalized intelligence, it's hard to believe that CNU would have admitted him, even with his athletic capabilities, and UVA would hire him to work in their surgical area? Opinions?
    A lot of people graduate HS without knowing the basics these days. Pressure is on teachers to pass kids and not have the school itself labeled as failing. I know teachers in NYC and Newark NJ who have been ordered in clear terms not to fail anyone. Sad.

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    Traffic and Criminal Cases

    **Credit to AVIXEN for pointing out the online court records in post #266 of in this other thread.

    Here is a summary of the traffic and criminal cases for JM that are publicly available from Virginia's Online Case Information System for Albermarle and Charlottesville courts. Except for the incidents in bold on 6/4/2009 and 3/17/2010, these look to be traffic citations. Other sources have reported that: (1) the 6/4/2009 incident was a road rage incident where JM later drove the victim to the hospital and (2) the 3/17/2010 incident occurred at an auto repair shop when JM demanded his money back for unsatisfactory service.

    Case Number; Hearing Date; Charge; Offense Date; Defendant's Address
    GT08001207-00; 2/4/2008; 61/45 SPEEDING; 11/20/2007; Charlottesville 22903
    GC09005874-00; 4/22/2010; ASSAULT: (MISDEMEANOR); 6/4/2009; Charlottesville
    GC09005873-00; 4/22/2010; ATTEMPT GRND LARCENY: $200+; 6/4/2009; Charlottesville

    GT09009828-00; 1/26/2010; 41/25 SP; 10/2/2009; Charlottesville 22903
    GC10001889-00; 4/22/2010; TRESPASS AFTER FORBIDDEN; 3/17/2010; Keswick 22947
    GT10002754-00; 6/3/2010; 43/25 SP; 3/24/2010; Keswick 22947
    GT10004546-00; 7/6/2010; 41/25 SP; 5/23/2010; Charlottesville 22903
    GT10009115-00; 1/13/2011; FAIL OBEY RR CROSS SIGNAL; 11/2/2010; Charlottesville 22947
    GT11014478-00; 11/7/2011; DEF EXHAUST; 8/10/2011; Charlottesville 22947
    GT11014479-00; 11/7/2011; NO INSPECTION; 8/10/2011; Charlottesville 22947
    GT11014480-00; 11/7/2011; DRIVE SUSP 2ND OFFENSE; 8/10/2011; Charlottesville 22947
    GT11015338-00; 12/16/2011; DRIVE SUSP 2ND OFFENSE; 8/27/2011; Charlottesville 22947
    GT11015339-00; 12/16/2011; EVASION OF TRAF CONTROL; 8/27/2011; Charlottesville 22947
    GT11015338-01; 12/16/2011; FAIL TO APPEAR; 10/17/2011; Charlottesville 22947
    GC12015139-00; 12/4/2012; POSS OF STOLEN INSP STKR; 9/22/2012; Charlottesville 22902
    GT12015020-00; 12/4/2012; DRIV UNDER REVO/SUSP; 9/22/2012; Keswick 22947
    GT12015021-00; 12/4/2012; ILLEGAL INSPECTION STICKER; 9/22/2012; Keswick 22947
    GT12015022-00; 12/4/2012; FAIL TO SUBMIT INSPECTION; 9/22/2012; Keswick 22947
    GT12015023-00; 12/4/2012; FAIL TO OBTAIN REGIS; 9/22/2012; Keswick 22947
    GT12015024-00; 12/4/2012; ALTERED REGISTRATION; 9/22/2012; Keswick 22947
    GT13002392-00; 4/1/2013; OPERATE UNINSPECTED VEH; 3/1/2013; Keswick 22947
    GT04005868-00; 8/5/2004; FAIL TO OBEY TRAFFIC SIGNAL; 12/27/2013; Charlottesville 22902
    GT14009265-00; 8/1/2014; NO REAR VIEW MIRROR; 6/27/2014; Charlottesville 22901

    There are also records for another person with the same name but with "Sr" and a different DOB. Those records look to be for public drunkeness and related charges.
    Last edited by Generalissimo; 09-26-2014 at 05:11 PM. Reason: Added credit!

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    Civil Cases

    Here is a summary of the civil cases where JM was the defendant in Albermarle and Charlottesville courts. These are also publicly available from Virginia's Online Case Information System. It looks like Warrant in Debt means the defendant is being sued for money. Garnishment appears to mean that they are trying to take the judgment directly from the defendant's paycheck. In the garnishment cases, the garnishee is usually the defendant's employer. The garnishees are in bold.

    Case; Plaintiff; Hearing Date; Case Type; Defendant Address; Judgment Amount or Garnishee
    GV08002990-00; UVA HEALTH SERVICES FOUNDATION; 8/19/2008; Warrant In Debt; Charlottesville, VA 22903; $894.20
    GV09002974-00; MARTHA JEFFERSON HOSPITAL; 6/23/2009; Warrant In Debt; Charlottesville, VA 22911 $2,293.20
    GV11013371-00; THE...UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA; 1/12/2012; Warrant In Debt; Keswick, VA 22947; $1,968.80
    GV11013371-01; THE...UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA; 9/20/2012; Garnishment; Keswick, VA 22947; Martha Jefferson House, Charlottesville VA 22903
    GV12007902-00; THE...UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA; 10/18/2012; Warrant In Debt; Charlottesville, VA 22902; $3,027.73
    GV13003077-00; THE...UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA; 5/16/2013; Warrant In Debt; Charlottesville, VA 22902; $1,550
    GV08002990-01; UVA HEALTH SERVICES FOUNDATION; 6/28/2013; Garnishment; Keswick, VA 22947; UVA Medical Center, Charlottesville VA 22908
    GV13003077-01; THE...UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA; 1/9/2014; Garnishment; Charlottesville, VA 22902; UVA Medical Center, Charlottesville, VA 22908

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalissimo View Post
    **Credit to AVIXEN for pointing out the online court records in post #266 of in this other thread.

    Here is a summary of the traffic and criminal cases for JM that are publicly available from Virginia's Online Case Information System for Albermarle and Charlottesville courts. Except for the incidents in bold on 6/4/2009 and 3/17/2010, these look to be traffic citations. Other sources have reported that: (1) the 6/4/2009 incident was a road rage incident where JM later drove the victim to the hospital and (2) the 3/17/2010 incident occurred at an auto repair shop when JM demanded his money back for unsatisfactory service.

    Case Number; Hearing Date; Charge; Offense Date; Defendant's Address
    GT08001207-00; 2/4/2008; 61/45 SPEEDING; 11/20/2007; Charlottesville 22903
    GC09005874-00; 4/22/2010; ASSAULT: (MISDEMEANOR); 6/4/2009; Charlottesville
    GC09005873-00; 4/22/2010; ATTEMPT GRND LARCENY: $200+; 6/4/2009; Charlottesville

    GT09009828-00; 1/26/2010; 41/25 SP; 10/2/2009; Charlottesville 22903
    GC10001889-00; 4/22/2010; TRESPASS AFTER FORBIDDEN; 3/17/2010; Keswick 22947
    GT10002754-00; 6/3/2010; 43/25 SP; 3/24/2010; Keswick 22947
    GT10004546-00; 7/6/2010; 41/25 SP; 5/23/2010; Charlottesville 22903
    GT10009115-00; 1/13/2011; FAIL OBEY RR CROSS SIGNAL; 11/2/2010; Charlottesville 22947
    GT11014478-00; 11/7/2011; DEF EXHAUST; 8/10/2011; Charlottesville 22947
    GT11014479-00; 11/7/2011; NO INSPECTION; 8/10/2011; Charlottesville 22947
    GT11014480-00; 11/7/2011; DRIVE SUSP 2ND OFFENSE; 8/10/2011; Charlottesville 22947
    GT11015338-00; 12/16/2011; DRIVE SUSP 2ND OFFENSE; 8/27/2011; Charlottesville 22947
    GT11015339-00; 12/16/2011; EVASION OF TRAF CONTROL; 8/27/2011; Charlottesville 22947
    GT11015338-01; 12/16/2011; FAIL TO APPEAR; 10/17/2011; Charlottesville 22947
    GC12015139-00; 12/4/2012; POSS OF STOLEN INSP STKR; 9/22/2012; Charlottesville 22902
    GT12015020-00; 12/4/2012; DRIV UNDER REVO/SUSP; 9/22/2012; Keswick 22947
    GT12015021-00; 12/4/2012; ILLEGAL INSPECTION STICKER; 9/22/2012; Keswick 22947
    GT12015022-00; 12/4/2012; FAIL TO SUBMIT INSPECTION; 9/22/2012; Keswick 22947
    GT12015023-00; 12/4/2012; FAIL TO OBTAIN REGIS; 9/22/2012; Keswick 22947
    GT12015024-00; 12/4/2012; ALTERED REGISTRATION; 9/22/2012; Keswick 22947
    GT13002392-00; 4/1/2013; OPERATE UNINSPECTED VEH; 3/1/2013; Keswick 22947
    GT04005868-00; 8/5/2004; FAIL TO OBEY TRAFFIC SIGNAL; 12/27/2013; Charlottesville 22902
    GT14009265-00; 8/1/2014; NO REAR VIEW MIRROR; 6/27/2014; Charlottesville 22901

    There are also records for another person with the same name but with "Sr" and a different DOB. Those records look to be for public drunkeness and related charges.
    Also from Madison County:
    GT10005458-00 MATTHEW, JESSE LEROY 05/26/2011 01:00 PM DRIV ON SUSP LIC/FINE & COST
    GT10005459-00 MATTHEW, JESSE LEROY 05/26/2011 01:00 PM 74/60 SP

    From Greene County:
    GT07000466-00 MATTHEW, JESSE LEROY; JR 03/21/2007 09:30 AM 71/60 SP


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    Madison County:
    GT10005458-00 05/26/2011 DRIV ON SUSP LIC/FINE & COST 12/26/2010 CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA 22947
    GT10005459-00 05/26/2011 74/60 SP 12/26/2010 CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA 22947

    Greene County:
    GT07000466-00 03/21/2007 71/60 SP 01/24/2007 CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA 22903

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    Do we have these yet? Newport News Circuit Court Criminal Division:

    CR03T29805-00; MATTHEW, JESSE L; JR NO STATE INSPECTION 10/29/2003 Nolle Prosequi (i.e., charges dropped)
    CR03T29806-00 MATTHEW, JESSE L; JR FAIL/WEAR SEATBELT 10/29/2003 Guilty Plea

    If nothing else, the evidence indicates he's a lifelong crappy driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liebling View Post
    Do we have these yet? Newport News Circuit Court Criminal Division:

    CR03T29805-00; MATTHEW, JESSE L; JR NO STATE INSPECTION 10/29/2003 Nolle Prosequi (i.e., charges dropped)
    CR03T29806-00 MATTHEW, JESSE L; JR FAIL/WEAR SEATBELT 10/29/2003 Guilty Plea

    If nothing else, the evidence indicates he's a lifelong crappy driver.
    Liebling, you're my favorite! I knew there were more but couldn't find the countny! But I do think the list is complete now... unless he has civil cases in other VA counties, oy!

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    EDITED. Got my Matthew/s confused. Doublechecking.

    Okay, there's a couple civil cases in Newport News, including one unlawful detainer (i.e., eviction), from 2004/2005 under the name Jesse Matthews Jr. I'm not going to cite them here because of that extra "s." There's nothing else on the cases, unfortunately, that I can use to check if it's a misspelling or a totally different person.
    Last edited by liebling; 09-26-2014 at 06:07 PM. Reason: doublechecking info; added dates

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    I was thinking about all JM has gotten away with and I'm not even referring to the rape accusation, but his long history of disregarding the law and manipulating the courts and getting away with it. I wonder if his persona in court was sheer stunned disbelief.

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