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  1. #1051
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    Sage’s grandmother beseeches City Council
    Lisa Provence, C-Ville
    9/17/15 at 6:48 AM

    A couple of grim anniversaries were noted on September 13: the one-year anniversary...

    [...]

    “I just want to put you on warning,” said Lolita “Cookie” Smith. “I’m going to be in your face every time you look around.”

    Cookie Smith said she has undergone triple bypass surgery and has suffered from the stress of Sage’s disappearance. “I can’t understand, for the life of me, why these other people’s cases can’t be solved, but these white girls can be.”

    Asked Smith, “What makes one life more valuable? I don’t understand. It’s killing me.”

    Smith begged for answers. “Help me,” she said. “That’s my baby out there and I’m asking y’all, please do something.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by RNER View Post
    Human remains found near nature trail in Fairfax County. No connection yet, but will be interesting to follow!

    http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/loca...ndon/23103731/
    I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there's probably no connection to JM since the remains are those of a 50 year old male...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrporter View Post
    I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there's probably no connection to JM since the remains are those of a 50 year old male...
    I've seen it speculated that JM could have been involved in a missing person case that happened in '82 so...ya never know!

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    Probably a repost, but very good link with pics. and details concerning females missing from Virginia.

    http://www.c-ville.com/vanished-virg.../#.Vg7LjpfSkg8

    MissingPersons-660x335.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by eileenhawkeye View Post
    I've seen it speculated that JM could have been involved in a missing person case that happened in '82 so...ya never know!
    I'm assuming that comment is "sarcastic/ironic"?

    (If it wasn't, JM was a baby in '82...)
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    Hooks up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eileenhawkeye View Post
    I've seen it speculated that JM could have been involved in a missing person case that happened in '82 so...ya never know!
    "Hawkeye", your pseudonym fits you. Apparently, JM was born at a young age.

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    Long article about Hannah, Morgan and others connected to JM.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/s...UY7?li=BBnb7Kz

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindHG View Post
    Thank you for that info. What do you think of the Jamisha Gilbert case? I listen to the DA's press conference. He was pretty convincing about her not having been a victim of foul play, the ideas I present below will make more sense if you read the report, and here's a link to the full report:

    http://www.ocalynchburg.com/news/201...h%20Report.pdf
    please see page 8 and 9 for the maps.

    How did she end up near a cemetery in briar patch so thick they had to use chainsaws to get to her? The map below shows the area.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Co...fc057ba44bd4f6

    Even if there was a small trace THC that may have had the disorienting effect by itself, there was no history of the this straight A honors student ever acting that outrageously erratically before? It sounded like her group of friends smoked with her before and they only reported slightly higher goofiness than normal and the gripes kids her age would have; not getting along with parents; and just being told she has to pay her uncle rent. It sounds like hindsight extrapolations in the investigation report from haphazard pieces of info kids may write in diaries. The effects of that little amount of THC would wear off, thus she would have been acting out much more when she was with friends, rather than afterwards. Why was she running when she should have been spaced out and sluggish if hypothermia and THC are the causes? What was she running from? She was never reported to have been psychotically diagnosed. That stuff doesn't happen in one night.

    If at that late hour, there's a cam that picks her up at the waste treatment plant, and she's perhaps disoriented and doesn't seek help, since she was in a panic maybe she didn't notice the worker, may be the predator did. If the worker didn't notice a half dressed girl running by, she could have equally not noticed him, being in a panic and in fear.
    A map of the treatment plant:

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Co...fc057ba44bd4f6

    Hypothermia makes you sluggish and not to want move. From what I understand, people are overcome by fatigue, want to fall asleep, stay still and freeze. A false feeling of heat comes once they succumb in place and undress in place, if they do, not while running. Part of her clothing was already off of her when she's caught running by the cam. The way the investigation lays out the experts views is far fetched, as admittedly, so is what I'm writing. Except now we know what this predator may have been up to.

    All her movements could be explained too, if she were run off the road. A predator offers help and a ride, she manages to get away, once he starts to attack. The taunting attacker is then chasing her in his car, which this predator may have by some indications liked to chase and hunt. So when he gets to the area of the plant, he may have seen the worker or expected cameras, either way he may have known the nearest residence where she may have been able to get help is right after Tyreeanna Rd on the Concord Turnpike, which is a convenient loop able to cut her off before she does get where she can get help, all without appearing on the waste plant cam.
    Map below:

    https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.3...e3!4m2!4m1!3e0

    Then we know now what this predator did with clothes. The report is not clear what clothes she has on when running past the plant, she may or may not have lost her shirt and bra by then which was found before the plant. If she is running in the direction of where there are houses, people, and help that she knew of, then why didn't she get there? Why would she stray from the open road she's been running on into a much more isolated area around the briar patch, as shown above?

    I think the plausibility of the report verse what we know this predator is capable of should be given a second look. I had fewer doubts about her not being a victim before I read the report and would be interested to know what others think. Sorry for the tome, but this has been bugging me for days and I kept wondering about it. Oh, and btw, when was the owner of Ętear drop hill" in that accident that killed him/her and what were the conditions?
    Noting waste management plant not noticed before.
    my opinions only

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDATCA View Post
    Long article about Hannah, Morgan and others connected to JM.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/s...UY7?li=BBnb7Kz
    It is still so very sad and maddening what that horrible excuse for a human being did to those lovely young women.
    Glad that ultimately, it was his great big cocky ego that helped to identify him.
    imo.
    "The T-shirt, I believe, was found in November ... a couple weeks after Morgan was killed," said Gil Harrington.
    "Most disturbing to me was that ... it had been put out like a trophy," she continued. "And just the -- the nerve and cockiness of a perpetrator who would leave a trophy like that in the middle of a campus."

    "They were able to actually pick up some of Morgan's DNA in the T-shirt," Dan Harrington explained.
    Even more importantly, testing picked up "unknown" DNA. When police ran it through their database, they got a hit: not to a person, but to another crime four years earlier and 100 hundred miles away.
    "They had foreign DNA in their case which was matched to my foreign DNA in my case," said Detective Michael Boone.
    rbbm.

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    There was a two part show on ID last night about JM and Hannah Graham case. Was there a thread going on it?


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