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    I suppose this guy was pretty much written off as someone looking for his 15 minutes? I don't really believe much of what he said TBH. And it looks like LM was wearing that wig a lot in the days leading up to the murder, if not all the time while living there because he was hiding from the police trying to track him down about the animal videos.

    I also do not believe that LM ever starred in a real porn film that wasn't something he and a few other guys filmed in someone's apt with a video camera or regular camera and uploaded to the internet. Or is there an actual film out there with a known porn film company and his name in the credits? Did anyone do any hunting on this?

    So in conclusion I think Mr Terror Train is full of it. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayemonde View Post
    He definitely sounds mentally ill to me! But I would not want him back on the streets! There should be a way for a judge to sentence people like this to life in a secure psychiatric hospital - not being punished, but being looked after, medicated and separated from the general population so they can't do any harm in the future if their symptoms recur and they become dangerous again. Releasing them as soon as they are deemed to be in remission is too risky when they have done things like this in the past. But I wonder how people with genuine severe mental illnesses fare in a normal prison? Not too well, I should think.

    Religious cases are tricky though, because it's not necessarily a sign of mental illness to believe in demons and the like. People who believe that the government are watching their every move are deemed to be delusional, but people who think that god is watching their every move are not if that's a normal belief within their culture. IMO, if you actual hear demons talking to you you're probably mentally ill, but when I was doing teacher training at a religious university there were a lot of born-again Christians there who swore that they literally saw the holy ghost during church services, and one guy told me that Satan literally spoke to him at night and tempted him to do bad things. To me, that sounds like a sure sign of mental illness but these were quite common beliefs amongst these born again christians and the people didn't show any other signs of mental illness.

    There was a guy in Scotland who murdered his friend because he said that a vampire from a movie appeared to him and told him he must kill to become a vampire. The defence claimed he was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia but three prosecution witnesses said that he suffered from anti-social personality disorder and was either inventing or exaggerating his "hallucinations" in an attempt to get a lighter sentence. He was found to be sane at the time of the killing and went to prison, where he later killed himself.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3168520.stm
    This guy wants to die apparently but wasn't able to kill himself. Right there I question his mental health and how much of this he's also saying as a defense to what he did. No doubt he wanted to kill the women as he had no problem even after the girlfriend said no. I never found out who called LE to the scene? Was it him because he was injured?

    Anyway, I am curious as to what a judge alone will make of this case and what his sentence will be. And why does a judge get months to make a decision? Anyone know?

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    Ooooo ......... after reading what MacKinnon says again could it be HE WAS in fact the intended victim ??

    Magnotta made some effort to get to know him, only him.

    The 56-year-old actor told QMI Agency that the similarities between his film and Magnotta's alleged crimes are too close to be a coincidence.

    "(My character) killed 11 people, my appearance was always changing and I dismembered a victim," MacKinnon said of his character in the film, shot in Montreal 32 years ago. "The similarity is pretty significant."

    MacKinnon played Kenny Hampson, a bloodthirsty and schizophrenic killer who targets college kids on a moving train during a New Year's Eve party

    The film by Canadian director Roger Spottiswoode also featured Jamie Lee Curtis and David Copperfield.

    "I'm sure he went to see who I was on the Internet since a few days later he asked me for advice about how to quit the porn industry and get roles in real productions," MacKinnon said
    http://m.torontosun.com/2012/06/04/m...-slasher-flick
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    Here are some snippets from an interesting article I found about the religion issue in NCR cases:
    http://religiondispatches.org/religi...ning-question/

    Dobson’s attorney has found three psychiatrists to testify that Dobson was not criminally responsible because he was psychotic and schizophrenic. However, Dr. Andriy Kolchak, a psychiatrist for the prosecution, has argued that Dobson was performing a ritual in accordance with his religious beliefs, and therefore was not mentally ill.
    In an eerily similar case, Pamela Christensen of Montgomery, Illinois, is awaiting trial for attempting to kill her three daughters so they could “meet Jesus Christ.” Like Dobson, Christensen tried to drug and stab her loved ones before attempting to kill herself . . .

    Cases such as this raise questions that have long gone unanswered about how the state should define “religion.” By what criteria should we decide whether deviant beliefs and actions are an expression of religion or evidence of a medical problem?

    Dr. Kolchak points out that Dobson was not a lone psychotic and that his victims shared his beliefs . . .

    Elsewhere, I have written on the case of John Errol Ferguson, a schizophrenic murderer in Florida, who claimed that upon his execution he alone would be seated at the Right Hand of God before being resurrected to save America from a communist plot. Under federal law, the mentally ill cannot be executed—psychiatrists had even identified a fissure in Ferguson’s brain consistent with schizophrenia. However, Florida’s eighth circuit ruled that Ferguson’s delusions were not substantially different from ordinary Christian beliefs.

    In 2013 Ferguson was executed under the legal pretext that he was not mentally ill, but simply a murderous Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamille View Post
    I suppose this guy was pretty much written off as someone looking for his 15 minutes? I don't really believe much of what he said TBH. And it looks like LM was wearing that wig a lot in the days leading up to the murder, if not all the time while living there because he was hiding from the police trying to track him down about the animal videos.

    I also do not believe that LM ever starred in a real porn film that wasn't something he and a few other guys filmed in someone's apt with a video camera or regular camera and uploaded to the internet. Or is there an actual film out there with a known porn film company and his name in the credits? Did anyone do any hunting on this?

    So in conclusion I think Mr Terror Train is full of it. Lol

    MOO
    The 'Internet Adult Film Database' has him listed :

    (I'll just show the titles of listings )

    Distributor
    Performer Credits

    8 Titles


    http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfi...ta/gender=male
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    Watching the surveillance, there was a small window between 9:32 PM and 10:20 PM during May 24, 2012 as Luka left his apartment, and came bac with Jun Lin. I noticed when he left, he did not have a plastic bag and when he came back with Jun Lin, he had a plastic bag. It's possible he went to the convenience store that Lin worked that, met him there (bought something as well) and came back to him. It seems Magnotta avoided using the internet to scout for victims, as we were never able to find Mr.X or how he and Lin met.

    I remember a while ago...two things that were interesting...it was an article that Magnotta was scouting for victims through Craigslist, and a possible ad he may have used, posted on the same day Jun Lin died.

    http://forum.liveleak.com/showthread.php?t=93068

    Okay, since the link to the forum that had the old ad isn't working, I'll post it here. I am not sure and do not contend Magnotta posted this ad:

    Movie - m4m - 26 (Montreal)

    Date: 2012-05-24, 9:39AM EDT
    Reply to: hpd3j-3035036102@pers.craigslist.org

    I am looking for a sexy guy who is interested into becoming an actor in a personal movie I am making.

    Please be between 18 and 35, good looking. I am making the movie for me, it's for fun, so I m not going to pay you anything.

    if you are interested, send me your stats with a face pic and a body pic.

    Remember, No pic= No answer

    AND i am not looking for sex and No c**k sucking.

    * Location: Montreal"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonNades View Post
    Watching the surveillance, there was a small window between 9:32 PM and 10:20 PM during May 24, 2012 as Luka left his apartment, and came bac with Jun Lin. I noticed when he left, he did not have a plastic bag and when he came back with Jun Lin, he had a plastic bag. It's possible he went to the convenience store that Lin worked that, met him there (bought something as well) and came back to him. It seems Magnotta avoided using the internet to scout for victims, as we were never able to find Mr.X or how he and Lin met.

    I remember a while ago...two things that were interesting...it was an article that Magnotta was scouting for victims through Craigslist, and a possible ad he may have used, posted on the same day Jun Lin died.

    http://forum.liveleak.com/showthread.php?t=93068

    Okay, since the link to the forum that had the old ad isn't working, I'll post it here. I am not sure and do not contend Magnotta posted this ad:

    Movie - m4m - 26 (Montreal)

    Date: 2012-05-24, 9:39AM EDT
    Reply to: hpd3j-3035036102@pers.craigslist.org

    I am looking for a sexy guy who is interested into becoming an actor in a personal movie I am making.

    Please be between 18 and 35, good looking. I am making the movie for me, it's for fun, so I m not going to pay you anything.

    if you are interested, send me your stats with a face pic and a body pic.

    Remember, No pic= No answer

    AND i am not looking for sex and No c**k sucking.

    * Location: Montreal"
    Yes I remember that add! But nobody ever found out if the add was truely LMs. In the light of what happened the following night, it is surely a bizar find/add!

    In regards to your thoughts of meeting JL in a conveniece store... Well, JL worked in a store in the area in Verdun. It is a bit off route from Decarie where LM lived, but not impossible. On the other hand i found something what cought my eye and I can't recall if it has ever been discussed here, so I pop it out here.

    In July 2011 JL and his boyfriend lived on Charlevoix street above a conveniece store. Sounds familiar right? Who lived on Charlevoix street in May 2011? Right... LM did! But we do not know for how long he stayed there, so it could be possible that they have met already in 2011. Just as people you know from your "hood" no? How they then meet up in 2012? Maybe they just bumped into eachother, "long time no see, come have a drink with me" scenario? No internet, no craiglist no nothing. That could also explain why LE didn't find anything of a connection between the two.

    articles related:
    http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/10...disappearance/

    http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/a...occo-magnotta/

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    I've just alerted Salem to lock this thread and open the one for the trial tomorrow morning. See you in Thread 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Jedi View Post

    Ooooo ......... after reading what MacKinnon says again could it be HE WAS in fact the intended victim ??

    Magnotta made some effort to get to know him, only him.



    http://m.torontosun.com/2012/06/04/m...-slasher-flick
    I have a hard time taking this guy seriously. Notice he name drops the one movie he was in a million years ago. Sounds like a failed actor seeing an opportunity to get his name in the press and taking advantage of it.

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    Hi Everybody - let's move over here, please: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...Trial-Thread-3

    I'm going to go ahead and lock this one up now, so I don't forget.

    Thanks!

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