CA CA - Glendora, Wht/AsianMale 2409UMCA, 2-4, likely hydrocephalic, May'84

outofthedark · Oct 13, 2014

[h=1]Unidentified Male[/h]Date of Discovery: May 2, 1984
Location of Discovery: Glendora, Los Angeles County, California
Estimated Date of Death: One year prior
State of Remains: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only
Cause of Death: Unknown
[h=5]Physical Description[/h]** Listed information is approximateEstimated Age: 2-4 years old
Race: White or White/Asian
Gender: Unsure, most likely male
Height: 3'6"
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Brownish-black, straight, two inches long.
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Likely suffered from hydrocephalus.
Dentals: Available.
Fingerprints: Not available.
DNA: Not available.
[h=5]Clothing & Personal Items[/h]Clothing: Unknown
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Unknown
[h=5]Case History[/h]The child's skeletal remains were found on the pavement of Glendora Mountain Road, approximately 150 feet north of mile marker .33 near San Gabriel Canyon.
[h=5]Investigating Agency(s)[/h]If you have any information about this case please contact;Agency Name: Los Angeles County Coroners Office
Agency Contact Person: Daniel Machian
Agency Phone Number: 323-343-0512 or 323-343-0754
E-Mail

Agency Case Number: ME: 1984-5656; NCMEC: 1110803
NCIC Case Number: U330018694
NamUs Case Number: UP #4231
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2409umca.html

chrisa1981 · Oct 23, 2014

I was wondering, could this child be Clark Toshiro Handa? http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/handa_clark.html

outofthedark · Oct 23, 2014

chrisa1981 said:
I was wondering, could this child be Clark Toshiro Handa? http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/handa_clark.html

That's EXACTLY who I had in mind for this little boy! He could have actually disappeared in the months before, and the distance between both cities is just 6 hours.

chrisa1981 · Oct 23, 2014

outofthedark said:
That's EXACTLY who I had in mind for this little boy! He could have actually disappeared in the months before, and the distance between both cities is just 6 hours.

I emailed the possible link and he replied that Handa Clark disappeared in August 1984 and this unidentified child was found in May 1984. So, therefore, he does not believe that he could be a match.

Jake479 · Dec 24, 2015

Can he be exhumed for DNA or was he cremated?

Earth · Mar 25, 2019

Bumping.

sonz82 · Mar 14, 2022

Bumping

aThousandYearsWide · Mar 14, 2022

2409UMCA - Unidentified Male

Reconstruction of the decedent by NCMEC.

Date of Discovery: May 2, 1984
Location of Discovery: Glendora, Los Angeles County, California
Estimated Date of Death: 1983-1984
State of Remains: Partial skeletal
Cause of Death: Unknown

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 2-4 years old
Race: White with possible Asian admixture
Sex: Unknown, most likely male
Height: 3'6"
Weight: Unknown.
Hair: Brown to black, 2" long and straight.
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Likely suffered from hydrocephalus.

Identifiers
Dentals: Available.
Fingerprints: Not available.
DNA: Not available.

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Unknown.
Jewelry: Unknown.
Additional Personal Items: Unknown.

Circumstances of Discovery
The child's skeletal remains were found on the pavement of Glendora Mountain Road, approximately 150 feet north of mile marker .33 near San Gabriel Canyon.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Los Angeles County Coroner
Agency Contact Person: Betsy Magdaleno
Agency Phone Number: 323-343-0512
Agency E-Mail: idunit(at)coroner.lacounty.gov
Agency Case Number: 1984-5656

NCIC Case Number: U330018694
NamUs Case Number: 4231
NCMEC Case Number: 1110803

Information Source(s)
NamUs
NCMEC
2409UMCA

John/Jane Doe · Apr 10, 2022

aThousandYearsWide said:
2409UMCA - Unidentified Male

Reconstruction of the decedent by NCMEC.

Date of Discovery: May 2, 1984
Location of Discovery: Glendora, Los Angeles County, California
Estimated Date of Death: 1983-1984
State of Remains: Partial skeletal
Cause of Death: Unknown

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 2-4 years old
Race: White with possible Asian admixture
Sex: Unknown, most likely male
Height: 3'6"
Weight: Unknown.
Hair: Brown to black, 2" long and straight.
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Likely suffered from hydrocephalus.

Identifiers
Dentals: Available.
Fingerprints: Not available.
DNA: Not available.

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Unknown.
Jewelry: Unknown.
Additional Personal Items: Unknown.

Circumstances of Discovery
The child's skeletal remains were found on the pavement of Glendora Mountain Road, approximately 150 feet north of mile marker .33 near San Gabriel Canyon.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Los Angeles County Coroner
Agency Contact Person: Betsy Magdaleno
Agency Phone Number: 323-343-0512
Agency E-Mail: idunit(at)coroner.lacounty.gov
Agency Case Number: 1984-5656

NCIC Case Number: U330018694
NamUs Case Number: 4231
NCMEC Case Number: 1110803

Information Source(s)
NamUs
NCMEC
2409UMCA

John/Jane Doe · Apr 11, 2022

2409UMCA

ChatteringBirds · Apr 12, 2022

Rest in peace, little man. I'm sorry for any suffering you had in life. I hope you will be identified someday soon.

John/Jane Doe · Apr 12, 2022

Wallace Guidroz could be a match?

Wallace Guidroz – The Charley Project

John/Jane Doe · Jan 6, 2023

Russell John Mort could be a possible match? He has available dentals so a respective comparison could be made to see if they match or not.

198DMNY - Russell John Mort

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

meanmaryjean · Jan 6, 2023

I wonder why they think hydrocephalus? Un-fused cranial sutures? Remnants of a shunt? And if they so suspect the recon image does not even remotely indicate it.

funkychicken · Mar 4, 2023

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

REMAINS 0F A CHILD, FOUND NEAR GLEND0RA MOUNTAIN ROAD, SAN GABRIEL CANYON

charminglane · Mar 5, 2023

This is another case where the locations do not match up.
This says Glendora Mtn. Road.
That is located East of Arcadia.
The map link on this case shows a residential street, 2nd Ave. in Arcadia.

Glendora Mountain Road, a popular road near Los Angeles

Glendora Mountain Road is a well known mountain road in the San Gabriel Mountains, near the city of Los Angeles, California.

www.roadstotravel.net

ifindedout · Mar 5, 2023

charminglane said:
This is another case where the locations do not match up.
This says Glendora Mtn. Road.
That is located East of Arcadia.
The map link on this case shows a residential street, 2nd Ave. in Arcadia.

Glendora Mountain Road, a popular road near Los Angeles

Glendora Mountain Road is a well known mountain road in the San Gabriel Mountains, near the city of Los Angeles, California.

www.roadstotravel.net

In my experience, Namus coordinates are seldom correct. They seem to be geographically centered either on the county, municipality, or the ZIP code. My SWAG is that, for legal reasons, they don't want to bring unwanted attention to the PLS/LKL, especially if the latter is a house or a school.

charminglane · Mar 5, 2023

ifindedout said:
In my experience, Namus coordinates are seldom correct. They seem to be geographically centered either on the county, municipality, or the ZIP code. My SWAG is that, for legal reasons, they don't want to bring unwanted attention to the PLS/LKL, especially if the latter is a house or a school.

Thanks for that!

heartanium · Mar 6, 2023

chrisa1981 said:
I was wondering, could this child be Clark Toshiro Handa? http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/handa_clark.html

Hanada is still missing, but likely buried somewhere near Vacaville.

Cold Case Finally Comes to an End for North Bay Family - Rafu Shimpo

FAIRFIELD — More than 30 years after the fact, the family of Clark Toshiro Handa knows what happened to him — and who is responsible. Sometime during the evening of Aug. 22, 1984, 3-year-old Clark was abducted from his bedroom at his home on Magellan Road (which is now Auto Mall Parkway). A...

rafu.com

Puzzleworth · Mar 7, 2023

meanmaryjean said:
I wonder why they think hydrocephalus? Un-fused cranial sutures? Remnants of a shunt? And if they so suspect the recon image does not even remotely indicate it.

His reconstruction does have a slightly elongated head shape, though it's masked somewhat by the hair. I think they toned down the hydrocephalus features a bit as well. A White child with hydrocephalus may have "Asian-like" features, like a broad nose bridge and a flat profile, simply because of the strain the extra intracranial volume places on the growing skull.

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