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    PA - Helen Novak, 90, slain, 10yo charged, Wayne County, 11 Oct 2014

    Helen Novak, 90, Died Of Blunt Force Trauma To Her Neck.

    Tyler Hill, Damascus Township, Wayne County, is in North-Eastern, PA

    Day 4

    Mon., Oct. 13th: http://www.poconorecord.com/article/...NEWS/141019710:

    "...the Crime of Homicide is specifically excluded from... Juvenile Code."

    Tue., Oct. 14th: http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworl...014-story.html:

    Paraphrased - GRAPHIC:

    Pushed a cane into her throat, then punched her five times in the throat, & five times in the stomach.

    Forensic Pathologist - Autopsy Findings Consistent with Suspect's Revelations

    Mon., Oct. 13th: http://wnep.com/2014/10/13/10-year-o...ear-old-woman/:

    Includes Video, & Suspect Photo

    Mon., Oct. 13th: http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...l#incart_river

    Your One-Click Source* Of:

    Charges --- Motions --- Court Dates

    Lower Criminal Court Document*:

    https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/docket...R-0000142-2014:

    18 § 2501 §§ A (F1) -- Criminal Homicide
    18 § 2702 §§ A 1 (F1) -- Aggravated Assault

    Grades of PA Crimes:
    H1 = Heinous / Murder of 1st Degree; H2
    F1 = Felony of 1st Degree; F2; F3
    M1 = Misdemeanor of 1st Degree; M2; M3
    S = Summary

    *Confinement Without Bail Since October 13th.

    *"Recent entries made in the Court Filing Offices may not be
    immediately reflected on these Docket Sheets..."

    Historically, Most PA Cases Like These Are Closed-Out in Lower, Magisterial District Court,
    then Advanced, with a New Docket Number, to Upper Courts of Common Pleas.


    Our Condolences To Helen's Loved Ones.
    Last edited by Richrd; 10-14-2014 at 07:03 AM.

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    PA- Tristen Kurilla 10, chgd as adult in beating death of 90 y/o Helen Novak

    An autopsy Monday ruled Novak's death a homicide, and found blunt force trauma to her neck. The boy is being held with no bail and has been charged with homicide as an adult. He is scheduled for a preliminary court hearing next Wednesday.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...-woman-n225316


    • Police charge boy, 10, with criminal homicide in Wayne County after 90-year-old woman dies


    At about 3:20 on Saturday, Martha Virbitsky went to the state police barracks in Honesdale with her son and reported that her son told her that he had gone into Novak's room at his grandfather's home and Novak yelled at him, according to the DA's press release.

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    The affidavit states that the boy told Decker that he pulled Novak down on the bed and held a cane on her throat and then punched her numerous times. The boy then went to his grandfather and told him that Novak was bleeding from her mouth

    http://www.poconorecord.com/article/...NEWS/141019710


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    Omg that is horrible. Am I reading correctly that he is being held in an adult correctional facility. A 10 year old in an adult jail?

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    Holy cannoli. These cases always freak me out. 10 years old and he sought to batter and murder and elderly woman. WTH?
    For Travis Alexander, a human being.


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    Abused child or a psychopath?

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    PA - Tristen Kurilla, W/M/10, For Homicide of 90 Y/O Helen Novak, 11 Oct '14

    Helen Novak, 90, Died Of Blunt Force Trauma To Her Neck.

    Lots More Links Over at Currently Awaiting Trial:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...6#post11084776

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    I get stuck in the middle , on the fence in cases where such young children are arrested for such heinous crimes. 10 yrs old but tried as an adult. That sounds awful. But then imagining someone beating an old lady to death, just as awful. So ??????
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    I can't imagine charging a 10 year old as an adult. Isn't there a minimum age when a child can be charged as an adult? In rereading the story, there is apparently no "homicide" charge in juvenile court. I'm not comfortable with it at all.

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    A little bit more info, and a pic of the boy. His eyes look odd. Neighbor describes him as having "emotional issues".

    http://wnep.com/2014/10/14/boy-remai...with-homicide/

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    I have to wonder, if you are capable of killing someone at 10, what you'll be like at 21.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oh_gal View Post
    I have to wonder, if you are capable of killing someone at 10, what you'll be like at 21.
    Not necessarily coordinated. Children under a certain age have a less than accurate perception of death. I remember all the things I saw as a child, and I shudder now, although they did not affect me in the least at that age.

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    It's my understanding that a young man's brain does not reach full maturation until 26....16 years in the future. I simply cannot see him being tried as an adult.
    With known emotional/mental health problems I would think a mental institution would be more appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeannaT View Post
    A little bit more info, and a pic of the boy. His eyes look odd. Neighbor describes him as having "emotional issues".

    http://wnep.com/2014/10/14/boy-remai...with-homicide/
    His eyes look odd because they had "red eye" from the picture being taken.
    Certain people have red eye in almost every single picture.

    It's also a very low quality picture so that doesn't help.
    If the picture was higher quality it could be easily edited out.

    There is a second low quality picture here, where he also has red eye.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1973518

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    Let's wait until we have more information before jumping to conclusions regarding his family life. Hopefully he will be examined by doctors to determine if he does have some mental issues.

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    Yikes, I've never heard of someone so young being charged as an adult. Might there be more to "coming into the room to ask her a question?" I shudder to think. Let's hope investigators know more about this than they're letting on, to take such 24 hours around the clock precautions with this boy.
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