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    Quote Originally Posted by Tugela View Post
    If the guy has an IQ of 70, and has been squirreling around with all his allegations for the past year or so before these current charges, the defence attorney is going to have a field day on cross if he is ever used as a witness.

    This is just a huge mess IMO. They sure as hell better have corroboration, or it is going to get seriously ugly in court for the prosecution if they take it to trial.

    RBBM:

    - This allegation of DA having an "IQ of 70" is coming from a "family member."

    - There is NO verifiable source that has stated that he has an IQ of 70, such as a professional who is qualified to administer and interpret IQ Tests.

    IF anyone has a verifiable source from a professional or LE regarding this allegation, please post the link.

    TIA !
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    Quote Originally Posted by dog.gone.cute View Post
    RBBM:

    - This allegation of DA having an "IQ of 70" is coming from a "family member."

    - There is NO verifiable source that has stated that he has an IQ of 70, such as a professional who is qualified to administer and interpret IQ Tests.

    IF anyone has a verifiable source from a professional or LE regarding this allegation, please post the link.

    TIA !
    I agree 100% dog.gone.cute..
    'Imo, investigators/prosecutors have a treasure trove of evidence and corroborated information, as well as forensics/dna. DNA; "the silent witness's IQ is at the top of the intelligence quotient scale'...
    "Gary Leon Ridgway; Green River Serial Killer was tested with an I.Q. of 82, yet is serving LWOP...
    DA's IQ is much-a-do about nothing, imo... DA was complicit... An 8 year old child knows that what happened to Holly in ZA's home on 04/13/2011 was inhumane and beyond evil, and could have been prevented with a simple 911 call... jmo
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    Quote Originally Posted by dog.gone.cute View Post
    RBBM:

    - This allegation of DA having an "IQ of 70" is coming from a "family member."

    - There is NO verifiable source that has stated that he has an IQ of 70, such as a professional who is qualified to administer and interpret IQ Tests.

    IF anyone has a verifiable source from a professional or LE regarding this allegation, please post the link.

    TIA !
    I am glad you brought this up as I have posted on this issue a couple of times. As a former teacher, I am very familiar with IDEA requirements. With an IQ in the low 70s, Dylan would not have been eligible for special education services in public school. Also, a special education status would not protect him from any prosecution for crimes that he commits. If the family or a defense attorney wants to claim in a court of law that Dylan is mentally challenged, he/she will have to provide verifiable testing information. If his tested IQ doesn't meet IDEA requirements, then he is not mentally challenged. As teachers, many times we fought long and hard to obtain special education services for a students that doesn't meet the requirements only to be told just that. This cousin is quick to point out that, supposedly, Dylan hasn't had a lawyer present during his interrogations. If this is such a concern of the family, then they should raise hell and insist he have a lawyer. It seems to me they are throwing Dylan under the bus as the instigator of the legal problems for the family ensuing from the abduction, rape, and death of Holly. This is a mindset that could have helped create the monster, IMO, that ZA became.

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    Also, I have experienced many parents of IDEA identified special education students go to court before the student turns 18 years of age to become the guardians of the student. This is to insure that these students/children are protected from making decisions of which they are not capable of making an informed decision themselves. Maybe this is what should have been done for Dylan, if he in fact is mentally challenged, instead of leaving him on his own within the sphere of influence of his brother.
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    Bringing this over from Thread #5 for reference purposes:


    These are all the charges/arrests that we know of related to Holly's rape/kidnapping/murder -- so far.


    Zachary Adams:
    - Charged with Especially Aggravated Kidnapping and First Degree Murder
    - Currently in jail


    Jason Autry:

    - Charged with Especially Aggravated Kidnapping and Murder
    - Currently in jail


    Dylan Adams:

    - Charged with Rape and Tampering with Evidence/Disposal of Evidence
    - Currently in jail


    Mark Pearcy:

    - Charged with Accessory After the Fact and Tampering with Evidence
    - Currently in jail


    Jeff Pearcy:

    - Charged with Accessory After the Fact and Tampering with Evidence
    - NOT in jail


    Shayne Austin:

    - "Immunity Deal" ?
    - Whereabouts "unknown"


    Relations:

    - Zachary, Jason, and Shayne are "BFF's"

    - Dylan is Zachary's younger brother.

    - Mark Pearcy and Jeff Pearcy are half-brothers.
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    Below are some MSM links for future reference ... if I missed any, please add to the list ... TIA !


    The Jackson Sun:

    http://www.jacksonsun.com/


    WSMV:

    http://www.wsmv.com/


    JRN/New Channel 5:

    http://www.jrn.com/newschannel5


    WKRN/ABC:

    http://www.wkrn.com/


    WREG (Memphis):

    http://wreg.com/



    Will Nunley Twitter:

    https://twitter.com/willnunley


    Chris Conte Twitter (News Channel 5):

    https://twitter.com/chrisconte


    Jordan Buie Twitter (Jackson Sun):

    https://twitter.com/JordanBuie


    Nichole Manna (Jackson Sun):

    https://twitter.com/NicholeManna


    Sarah Bleau (Fox 13):

    https://twitter.com/sarahbleauFOX13


    Katie Rufener Twitter (WREG Memphis):

    https://twitter.com/KRufener_WREG3


    Caitlin AlexanderTwitter (WREG Memphis):

    https://twitter.com/CAlexander_WREG
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    In this day and age why are they not taping these conversations and documenting them? I cannot count the number of convictions that have been overturned and set aside from false confessions just this year. The Ryan Ferguson case in MO is a prime example. He has filed a $100M case against the city and each LE investigator that coerced a confession from a co-defendant. IMO all interrogations should be recorded, both audio and visual. Both for evidentiary value and documentation that no coercion took place. And especially in this case with Dylan where LE knows full well his challenged IQ is being thrown around.

    JMO's

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...iction-Lawsuit

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    Extra thanks dog.gone.cute for all the links and info above!

    Wow, what difference a day makes! I do feel much more confident now about this case going to trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jggordo View Post
    In this day and age why are they not taping these conversations and documenting them? I cannot count the number of convictions that have been overturned and set aside from false confessions just this year. The Ryan Ferguson case in MO is a prime example. He has filed a $100M case against the city and each LE investigator that coerced a confession from a co-defendant. IMO all interrogations should be recorded, both audio and visual. Both for evidentiary value and documentation that no coercion took place. And especially in this case with Dylan where LE knows full well his challenged IQ is being thrown around.





    JMO's

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...iction-Lawsuit
    I hope that all conversations, interrogations, etc with all these players in Holly's case is being recorded, videoed, and backed-up. Since I guess I am so na´ve to totally trust this group of LE, I think they are doing this. If for no other reason than to be able to prove what was said when the defense attorneys try to discredit them. Also, I think recording, etc will be the linchpins when immunity deals are voided. The DA already wants to void SA's deal because, I think we surmise, he did not deliver on negotiated terms and possibly could be more of a participant than he led LE to believe he was.
    http://www.jacksonsun.com/story/news...rest/17278037/
    In above previously linked article, the cousin clams,
    "He was in protective custody of the TBI, specifically Special Agent Jeff Jackson, for his cooperation with the Bobo investigation," she said. "He was supposed to have full immunity from prosecution for any knowledge he may have had."
    The above BBM by me, imo, hints that Dylan may have had an immunity deal "for any knowledge he may have had." There is a difference in "knowledge" and the rape he is charged with. If he reached a deal based on knowledge, it does not cover participation. I am pretty sure this will be challenged and don't think LE would so charge if it can not be evidenced. It will be interesting to learn how the courts deal with SA's immunity deal.

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    This case reminds me again of the Lauren Giddings case in Macon where we learned quite a bit from the killer's mother before the defense attorneys (I presume) prevailed upon her to shut her mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSteve View Post
    Extra thanks dog.gone.cute for all the links and info above!

    Wow, what difference a day makes! I do feel much more confident now about this case going to trial.

    You're Welcome, OS ! It helps to have the info and links accessible, especially since there are so many perps, court dates, etc.

    BBM: Yes, I agree . . . and I cannot wait to see this all laid out !
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    Quote Originally Posted by dog.gone.cute View Post
    You're Welcome, OS ! It helps to have the info and links accessible, especially since there are so many perps, court dates, etc.

    BBM: Yes, I agree . . . and I cannot wait to see this all laid out !
    The links and info you posted would be good to have appear on the first page of every new thread - it really helps, especially with so many involved in this case!

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    Okay, let me see if I have my fact straight here before I comment further. Dylan Adams is Zach Adams brother, and he's the one who implicated Zach Adams in Holly's death, correct? And now Dylan Adams is admitting to having forcibly raped Holly? Was there anything else that implicated Zach Adams and Jason Autry, other than Dylan Adams' statements?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tugela View Post
    If the guy has an IQ of 70, and has been squirreling around with all his allegations for the past year or so before these current charges, the defence attorney is going to have a field day on cross if he is ever used as a witness.

    This is just a huge mess IMO. They sure as hell better have corroboration, or it is going to get seriously ugly in court for the prosecution if they take it to trial.
    Its a given the defense has to try something since they are battling uphill.

    But it isn't going to fly, imo. He does not have an IQ low enough to make it an issue. Inmates who have a 70 IQ and above can be put to death. When he was charged with the federal gun charges he had a public defender and I believe she is still his lawyer. If his IQ had shown him unable to know right from wrong she would have long filed that with the court in the gun case. Since he was convicted his IQ is not an issue.

    Will the defense try to make it one? Probably but I think the DA has evidence supporting what Dylan has said and the DT will have a hard time making out that Dylan is just making all of this up. It really is hard for defense attorneys to make chicken salad out of chicken s*** but they do try.

    I don't think he has been squirreling around. I think it has taken time for him to come forward with more and more truth about what happened.

    Imo, the so called DT field day will turnout to be an infested swamp they cant pull the defendants out of, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Okay, let me see if I have my fact straight here before I comment further. Dylan Adams is Zach Adams brother, and he's the one who implicated Zach Adams in Holly's death, correct? And now Dylan Adams is admitting to having forcibly raped Holly? Was there anything else that implicated Zach Adams and Jason Autry, other than Dylan Adams' statements?
    DA Stowe has said there is voluminous evidence against ZA and JA.

    Dylan will only be one part of the trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jggordo View Post
    In this day and age why are they not taping these conversations and documenting them? I cannot count the number of convictions that have been overturned and set aside from false confessions just this year. The Ryan Ferguson case in MO is a prime example. He has filed a $100M case against the city and each LE investigator that coerced a confession from a co-defendant. IMO all interrogations should be recorded, both audio and visual. Both for evidentiary value and documentation that no coercion took place. And especially in this case with Dylan where LE knows full well his challenged IQ is being thrown around.

    JMO's

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...iction-Lawsuit
    Did I miss something? Where has the TBI said they didn't tape any of Dylan's interviews and statements?

    When the TBI interviewed Mary Winkler they sure videoed it back then.

    IMO
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