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  1. #46
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    Am I watching story time on Play School or final arguments?

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    Ugh, now Roux is actually literally saying OP is now a victim!!!
    I don't like getting so infuriated at 12:44am!
    (in Seattle)

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    R: We say milady that what happened in this matter; there was an accused and a victim and shortly after, accused became a victim...he was charged and taken to court...

    accuses police of makiing OP a victim, I think.
    We 'embraced' the missing Bob Harrod case as requested but 6 years on, are still waiting for further guidance


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    Quote Originally Posted by zwiebel View Post
    R: Maybe there are cases where we must just sit back and say, 'Is that what the law's all about?'

    ...

    I used to be very naive about this believing that the law = justice.

    I learned the hard way, personally, that the law = the law.

    Sometimes justice, many times not even close.
    You must be the change you wish to see in the world. - Gandhi

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    Restorative Justice= Pistorius clan pays off society, like bribery

    "The accused became a victim, My Lady, the severe emotions , the accusations by police...that he had no emotions, victimized the accused, mY Lady, and those extreme emotions are not in dispute..."
    “Every day that they don’t find something is good for me.“ Billie Dunn

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    Quote Originally Posted by toevlugsoord View Post
    Ugh, now Roux is actually literally saying OP is now a victim!!!
    I don't like getting so infuriated at 12:44am!
    (in Seattle)

    'The accused has now become the victim'

    Utter twaddle....!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoran View Post
    story of 2 goats
    Roux's the goat and OP's the kid.

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    R:...there's nothing about how the accused felt....(to say) he was just standing there and not saying anything is not right...those extreme emotions suffered by accused are not in dispute, verified by experts....he never, ever, considered it was Ms Steenkamp behind that door.
    We 'embraced' the missing Bob Harrod case as requested but 6 years on, are still waiting for further guidance


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    If you don't believe OP's demeanour in court aren't all an act, then watch the past 5 days videos of OP arriving at court. Outside of court we have the strong, confident almost arrogant OP, inside court we have the sad, meek destroyed OP.

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    And the blubbering begins ... right on cue.


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    http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/artic.../#.VEDIZckUrUm

    In fact, according to his agent Peet van Zyl, people so love Pistorius that those in “civilised countries” want pictures of him. Who knows what people in uncivilised countries want? Justice, perhaps?

    Yes, best article ever, you are right!

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    R: Some of media, ably assisted by social media started speculating how he 'crushed her head' with a cricket bat......never, ever in any country have I seen an unfair attack (think he meant to say 'such as' then)
    We 'embraced' the missing Bob Harrod case as requested but 6 years on, are still waiting for further guidance


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    Amazingly Roux telling about case law about a famous goat case (won’t attempt the name). Roux tries to relate the analogy of ‘goat stealing’ (!) to restorative justice. He frames punishment as ‘what’s good for society, the triad…’ because that is not what society wants” by which he means any harsh punishment of any accused.

    Roux wants the criminal to “do something to help society, for the victim, for the society, for the…”

    I believe in restorative justice but this is excruciating.

    He’s now playing to Masipa obvious weakness now for emotive displays of ‘remorse’.

    Roux: Vorster, Lortzenburg etc. proved he was genuinely highly emotional.

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    Oscar...*snivel-mode on*
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    Think Roux has been taking some acting lessons too, what a lot of drivel is coming out his mouth!! and we'll deeeeal with that........ urg!

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