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    A justice source said there were several individual containers, each holding the remains of at least one child, placed inside the locker that had been rented out in Andrea Giesbrecht's name.

    They had been placed in a mystery liquid, which authorities are working to identity to determine whether it was meant to aid in preservation or speed up decomposition.

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...ce=d-top-story

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlcya View Post
    A justice source said there were several individual containers, each holding the remains of at least one child, placed inside the locker that had been rented out in Andrea Giesbrecht's name.
    They had been placed in a mystery liquid, which authorities are working to identity to determine whether it was meant to aid in preservation or speed up decomposition.

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...ce=d-top-story

    From your link

    "Newspaper ads previously placed in the Free Press show Giesbrecht has a history of lapsing on payments for other rental units."

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    Wth? I hope LE are going over her other storage units with a fine tooth comb. If these poor babies are indeed not born from her, as her lawyer claims, how the heck is she getting them?

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    still thinking we have a lot of info missing on this one. Curious to see how this all shakes out.
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    I think the defence of bipolar is bunk for both the gambling issues and the concealing of infants. I have bipolar II and I can assure you I have never thought about concealing the bodies of infants in a storage locker. MOO of course but that's ridiculous and makes people with bipolar disorder look bad.

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    There is something they aren't telling us. Basically they are saying it is OK to do this if you have bp?
    Total bs if so. There are 6 babies in a container of liquid to either speed up decomp.. Or preserve. You would have to be competent to even do this. Have to have some knowledge of this. Get her wify.devices. find out how long this was planned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyL View Post
    why did people in this thread automatically think it might be first nations babies
    I assume this is aimed at me. I did not "automatically think" it; I wondered if it might be possible. My speculation was based upon several well-publicised phenomena: the fact that First Nations children are more likely to be taken into foster care than non-FN children; the fact that they are more likely to be abused or die once they get there; and the fact that disappearances of FN victims tend to get less attention from media and law enforcement than those of non-FN victims (remember, these children had apparently not been reported missing).

    Some links with further info:

    http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/ch...are/index.html
    http://aptn.ca/news/2013/05/08/nearl...istics-canada/
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...ticle18638089/
    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/life/...384/story.html
    http://cwrp.ca/infosheets/comparison...boriginal-2003

    If your question was sincere, I hope this answers it.

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    Defense wants a independent pathologist http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...ce=d-tiles-1at the autopsies

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    http://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/dead-infa...home-1.2077114


    While her lawyer was in court arguing that he wanted an independent pathologist to observe the autopsies (which are 90% complete).....LE armed with a search warrant were going through the residence of the accused ((who was in court this am too))

    LE is expected to remain at the residence throughout the night ((I often wondered where people go while LE has control of the residence)).

    A van without plates was removed from the property

    The central issue from the point of view of the Office of the Pathologist is to remain neutral and without outside interference in their findings.
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    CTV Winnipeg has learned police searched a second property linked to Andrea Giesbrecht:

    http://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/officers-...tion-1.2080020
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    Two theories being bounced around in my household about this.

    a) She was performing late term abortions for cash.
    If so....how did the word get out? It's not like you can just post it on FB.

    b) The babies are hers and she was getting pregnant from hook ups and blackmailing married men.
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    Until we get the full story, my theory is that the babies are hers. There have been cases over the years of women who hid their pregnancies well. Some people just don't show. I have a friend who is curvy and hippy. Her pregnancies sort of blended in with her round figure, and her babies weren't very big. If she had wanted to, she could have kept her pregnancies hidden. In fact, when I was just getting acquainted with her, she was 7 months pregnant when I learned she was pregnant, despite the fact that I saw her 3 times a week at our children's school.

    Anyway, I'm really watching this case closely, and I hope there will be more information soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newone View Post
    sounds like welfare fraud to me........MOO

    pregnancies + additional dependents = $$$

    "Giesbrecht has also been charged with breach of probation in connection with court orders stemming from two fraud convictions in 2012."

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...bies-1.2808545
    How could it be for welfare fraud if the babies are dead and there is no record of a live birth? Welfare rates are so low that it isn't even worth it, IMO. And they live in the Maples - a pretty solid working/middle class neighbourhood.

    Quote Originally Posted by kdgdid View Post
    Defense wants a independent pathologist http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...ce=d-tiles-1at the autopsies
    I wish this was not an issue. Let them have their pathologist there, get over it, and do your darn job.
    Quote Originally Posted by KMouse View Post
    Two theories being bounced around in my household about this.

    a) She was performing late term abortions for cash.
    If so....how did the word get out? It's not like you can just post it on FB.

    b) The babies are hers and she was getting pregnant from hook ups and blackmailing married men.
    I was thinking those things too. I have no idea what the numbers are like, and its fairly easy to get a legal abortion here, and it is covered by MB Health so you aren't paying out of pocket. However, safe, legal abortions are only easily accessible to people in the city, definitely not to those who live in remote areas. I don't know how one would spread the word, but I'm guessing if you look hard enough, you will find what you need.

    Other than being in 'various states of decomposition' I haven't read anything about the state of the bodies and i'm not about to research this stuff on the google. Can't rule anything out yet, I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slebby View Post
    Until we get the full story, my theory is that the babies are hers. There have been cases over the years of women who hid their pregnancies well. Some people just don't show. I have a friend who is curvy and hippy. Her pregnancies sort of blended in with her round figure, and her babies weren't very big. If she had wanted to, she could have kept her pregnancies hidden. In fact, when I was just getting acquainted with her, she was 7 months pregnant when I learned she was pregnant, despite the fact that I saw her 3 times a week at our children's school.

    Anyway, I'm really watching this case closely, and I hope there will be more information soon.
    I guess that is possible too, although in what context would have been born? How much bad luck could one woman have to have so many still births? If they were illegal/third trimester abortions, wouldn't her health have suffered? Can you have six of those and still survive?

    I doubt we will get much more info, but I hope we do because its all so odd, and sad, and macabre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slebby View Post
    Until we get the full story, my theory is that the babies are hers. There have been cases over the years of women who hid their pregnancies well. Some people just don't show. I have a friend who is curvy and hippy. Her pregnancies sort of blended in with her round figure, and her babies weren't very big. If she had wanted to, she could have kept her pregnancies hidden. In fact, when I was just getting acquainted with her, she was 7 months pregnant when I learned she was pregnant, despite the fact that I saw her 3 times a week at our children's school.

    Anyway, I'm really watching this case closely, and I hope there will be more information soon.
    If the babies turn out to be biologically related to AG, it would be interesting if they were all female, considering the two children she did keep, are male..imo.

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    request for independent pathologist denied

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...nied-1.2832442

    "When court resumed, Corrin said he was not going to go ahead with the bail application that was scheduled for Wednesday. He said he would first need to go over three new fraud charges Giesbrecht received on Nov.7.

    A bail hearing is set for Dec. 1 at 2 p.m."
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