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    It could be a symptom of his schizophrenia. We'll have to wait and see from his psychiatrist - maybe he thought that this murder would impress KH, or that she was telling him to do it

    Like John Hinkley Jr trying to assasinate Ronald Reagan to impress Jodi Foster. These delusions of love or relationships are known as erotomania..

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotomania


    Quote Originally Posted by BorgQueen View Post
    So, this was no random Bordelais. It was Karla's husband and lawyer's mother. This all but confirms that Magnotta was stalking Homolka, as far as I am concerned. He went through a lot of trouble to get her sister and mother-in-law's addresses. Perhaps he thought it was Karla's home? Did he see her enter? His long-standing obsession with that woman says a lot about him...


    @Kamille: I am surprised that neither the crown nor the defence brought her up. I bet that LAWYER was having NONE of that! It is unfortunate, though. I hope the jury remembers what LV said about her sister's husband, and makes that link. His Homolka/Trammel thing... he idolised KILLERS.

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    Just a thought - it's a real shame he decided to murder some random innocent dude instead of going straight for KH! Yeah he'd still be a murderer but this wouldn't be nearly so tragic if she'd been his victim! JMO of course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayemonde View Post
    Just a thought - it's a real shame he decided to murder some random innocent dude instead of going straight for KH! Yeah he'd still be a murderer but this wouldn't be nearly so tragic if she'd been his victim! JMO of course!
    I think you just put into words what a lot of people were thinking. JMO also...of course.

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    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    We're back in #Magnotta. Leclair has no more questions for this witness. Next up is another European witness



    I guess they didn't find the photos that the witness took?

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    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 3m3 minutes ago
    Jean-Christophe Robert testified June 25, 2014 and it was recorded. We're seeing that recording now. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1m1 minute ago
    Robert lives in northwest of Paris. Was in touch with #Magnotta on dating site.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
    Jean Christophe Robert met #Magnotta on Planet Romeo dating site in 2012.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    Doesn't remember who initiated the contact, may have been me, he says. Communicated six or seven times #Magnotta

    Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 2m2 minutes ago
    Witness had an account on the site under different name, not given name. No photo of himself. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Robert's profile name was Couledoux. COntacted #Magnotta 6, 7 times. Can't remember who started it.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    They communicated in English about banal things, he says. #Magnotta said he planned to go to France to live

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    He was talking about tickets, passports and wanted to leave where he was, witness said #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Says they had a telephone conversation. #Magnotta was coming to Paris. #Magnotta gave first name? Luke.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Robert says he can't remember #Magnotta's profile name. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1m1 minute ago
    They spoke briefly on the telephone, witness says. Pseudo #Magnotta used was canadian22

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 53s54 seconds ago
    Witness says can't remember when phone call took place. Maybe end of May. #Magnotta

    Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 2m2 minutes ago
    They had met through the site at the end of April- beginning of May 2012. Had intentions of moving to France. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    Spoke at the end of May, 2012 witness said. #Magnotta said he was coming beginning of June

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Exact date when #Magnotta was coming to Paris? June 4. according to police statement he recalls.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 41s42 seconds ago
    Witness says #Magnotta texted him when he arrived.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1m1 minute ago
    Robert received text from #Magnotta saying he was in Paris and wanted to see him. was surprised because it was earlier than planned, he says

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Witness says they planned when to meet that day or the next day. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Did he say where he was staying? Not at first, but then he said he was staying in a hotel. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 54s54 seconds ago
    Witness says they met at his place. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 34s35 seconds ago
    Witness told him to take the metro. #Magnotta arrived around 8:30, 9 pm. Stayed at his place until the next morning. Left around 8,8:30 am.

    Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 45s46 seconds ago
    Witness said #Magnotta came to his place. And stayed until the next morning. Left at around 8-8:30 when witness left for work.

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    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 7m7 minutes ago
    #Magnotta stayed with him about 10 or 11 hours. Discussion was around travel; Robert said he'd already been in Montreal and TO

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 8m8 minutes ago
    Did #Magnotta says why he pushed up his trip to Paris? No.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 7m7 minutes ago
    Do anything else? No. Where did conversation take place? In living room. Ended late. Maybe after midnight. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 6m6 minutes ago
    They had some wine together, talked. #Magnotta was polite, asked if he should take off his shoes, complimented apartment

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 6m6 minutes ago
    Witness says #Magnotta appeared cultured, discussed things political.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 6m6 minutes ago
    Seemed interested in politics and different subjects. He appeared to be someone who took care of himself, hygiene #Magnotta

    Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 7m7 minutes ago
    Witness said that #Magnotta was very polite and courteous. Someone easy to have a dialogue with.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 6m6 minutes ago
    Witness says #Magnotta appeared to take good care of himself, accessories, like sunglasses. Nothing special.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 6m6 minutes ago
    Seemed interested in politics and different subjects. He appeared to be someone who took care of himself, hygiene #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 6m6 minutes ago
    Any behaviour that surprised you? No, not really. #Magnotta started to get a little tired.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 6m6 minutes ago
    Robert says there was nothing unusual about #Magnotta. He seemed tired but thought it was jetlag or wine

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 5m5 minutes ago
    There was no physical contact between them, Robert says. Nothing happened during the night #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 5m5 minutes ago
    It's an open apartment. I was in my bed, he was on the sofa. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 5m5 minutes ago
    I got up first, witness says. Around 7, 7:30 am. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 5m5 minutes ago
    I slept in my bed and #Magnotta slept on the couch. I was first to wake up next day at about 7, Robert says

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 5m5 minutes ago
    Did you discuss sleeping arrangements? No. #Magnotta

    Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 5m5 minutes ago
    Witness said they didn't discuss sleeping arrangements before but didn't think he was going to sleeping over at his place. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    We drank, night went on, #Magnotta started to get tired. People react differently to alcohol. Was he drunk? No.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    Shared 750ml bottle of wine? Yes. Plus aperitif, 2 each. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 4m4 minutes ago
    #Magnotta didn't seem drunk. We shared a bottle of wine, and each had about two drinks before that, Robert says

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    Did he explain what he wanted to do? See people, he knew people in France. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    Looking for work as caregiver, it seems. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    Witness says #Magnotta told him he had to go, he had appointments. It was a hasty departure.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 4m4 minutes ago
    Next day, #Magnotta said he had to go, he had things to do, people to see. He left pretty quickly, Robert says. Didn't see each other again

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    They didn't see each other again. Didn't contact each other either.#Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    A few days later, witness says he read about the news, that #Magnotta was being sought by police, so didn't really want to contact him.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    Witness doesn't think #Magnotta tried to contact him. Learned in the news his real name.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
    Witness was a bit panicky at first, then thought about it. Was it really him, witness asked himself. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 4m4 minutes ago
    At first, to be honest, I panicked, Robert says. Then thought it over. Was distracted at work. Wondering if it was really #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 3m3 minutes ago
    I had info about him like which hotel he was in and I had the phone number he used to get in touch with me, Robert says #Magnotta

    Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 3m3 minutes ago
    Also, was a bit panicked by the whole situation. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
    Witness decided on June 1, 2012 to call police after some reflection. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Did it after work, learned of the news Friday at noon. Read it on his smartphone. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 3m3 minutes ago
    On June 1, 2012, Robert decided to go to police after work, at about 8 pm. He had seen the news that day at noon #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Witness saw photo of face of #Magnotta, said to himself he recognized him. Transmitted by Le Figaro via Interpol.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    It said #Magnotta was being sought by police and was in France, that he was suspected of murder.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Witness says went on another site, Le Monde, same info. Same photo? Not certain. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    Robert saw #Magnotta's photo in news and saw they were looking for him for murder

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    That poor guy must have been terrified.



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    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
    Your police statement, you didn't mention #Magnotta stayed overnight at your place? No.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    Robert didn't let on at first that #Magnotta spent the night at his place. Was afraid, he says

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Witness says next night that news reported #Magnotta was in Clichy. So it was out in the open.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    On Planet Romeo, you have a profile pseudonym just like #Magnotta, what did you find out?

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    In the end, Robert diid say #Magnotta spent the night at his place. Magnotta's account on the dating site had been removed

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Witness was on Planet Romeo for 12 months. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Personal address on website? No. Tel no? No. Email? No. To register, need email. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Planet Romeo, paid site? Free and paid access. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1m1 minute ago
    Robert says he doesn't recognize #Magnotta, who he sees via videolink on a screen during testimony

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Different access, different fees, witness says. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Remember in presence of #Magnotta,wrote something? Yes.

    Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 1m1 minute ago
    Witness said he remembered #Magnotta writing things on a paper when he was at the witness' place.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 55s55 seconds ago
    Robert says during his conversation with #Magnotta he wrote things down, eg how verbs are conjugated

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 49s49 seconds ago
    #Magnotta said french was limited, so wrote down simple words, verb conjugations. Witness's initiative.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    Witness says #Magnotta about his height, thin, around 25-30 years. Did you ask him? Maybe on his profile.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
    Crown done, Defence next. #Magnotta

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    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    Back to May 2012: cofounder of Start Up? Washington?Civilian service in cooperation with military service. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
    1986, 1987, witness says, worked in Washington at French embassy. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 4m4 minutes ago
    Leclair cross examining Robert now. He was in South Carolina to do MBA; worked in Washington in 86-87. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    Practiced English, witness says. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Time with #Magnotta on Planet Romeo: website had Couledoux profile name, headings such as password, clubs, escorts.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 58s58 seconds ago
    Leclair is now on PlanetRomeo dating site and looking at it with the witness #Magnotta

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    Why is it that every time Leclair does a cross the tweets slow down to a crawl?

    And I feel really ripped off that we didn't get the entire Bordelais family history including where they all live, how often they have turkey dinners with Karla, where their vacation home in the Caribbean is, where Sylvie went to law school, where Thierry works, where Thierry and Karla's children go to school, how many times Renee was married and to whom....well you get the picture.

    MOO


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamille View Post
    Why is it that every time Leclair does a cross the tweets slow down to a crawl?

    And I feel really ripped off that we didn't get the entire Bordelais family history including where they all live, how often they have turkey dinners with Karla, where their vacation home in the Caribbean is, where Sylvie went to law school, where Thierry works, where Thierry and Karla's children go to school, how many times Renee was married and to whom....well you get the picture.

    MOO

    Oh, me too! The ONE TIME Leclair's ridiculous questions would have been entertaining. Total let down!



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    salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 5m5 minutes ago
    #Magnotta lawyer's cross-examination of Robert is focusing on the details of the site, Planete Romeo, where he first met the accused.

    Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 3m3 minutes ago
    Been seeing on video, Leclair sitting next to witness with his laptop, going over the site Planete Romeo where him & #Magnotta first spoke.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    So you and #Magnotta indicated on this site that you were interested in fetishes, other sexual activities. Yes but everyone is interested.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 8m8 minutes ago
    So #Magnotta called you Chris? Yes. Invited him to go to nudist club in south of France? Witness says he's been to them.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 8m8 minutes ago
    Wtiness says he's gone to nude beaches, then whispers, what's that got to do with it? #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 7m7 minutes ago
    You asked #Magnotta to undress, Leclair says. "I'm a nudist. I don't know if I asked him. I don't think I did," witness says

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 8m8 minutes ago
    You asked #Magnotta to get undressed upon arrival at your place? In living room, I believe, don't recall.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 7m7 minutes ago
    Witness taking a long time to answer these questions. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 7m7 minutes ago
    Asked #Magnotta to live with you? No.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 7m7 minutes ago
    Told #Magnotta he could stay but his place was a nudist environment? I told him he could stay over.jj

    Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 6m6 minutes ago
    Witness says he does adopt a nudist lifestyle, attends nude beaches but never asked #Magnotta to be nude in his apt.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 7m7 minutes ago
    Witness says #Magnotta was supposed to stay in Paris so the meeting at his place was an orientation type of meeting.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 7m7 minutes ago
    Robert says #Magnotta was going to settle in Paris so this was a meeting to get to know each other

    Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 6m6 minutes ago
    Witness just said to #Magnotta that he could stay over.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 6m6 minutes ago
    What drew you to #Magnotta, Leclair asks. We had things in common, Robert says. I was expat too. know what can happen in unknown places

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 6m6 minutes ago
    What did you take away from contacts with #Magnotta?Had some conversations, place in common we visited, ex-pat, where we didn't know people.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 6m6 minutes ago
    At the time, witness was 49 years old. Why were interested in that young man, Leclair says. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 6m6 minutes ago
    What attracted you to #Magnotta? Overnight stay was planned? No, #Magnotta had a hotel.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 5m5 minutes ago
    #Magnotta arrived with no baggage or anything and had a hotel room, witness says, as way of showing nothing was planned

    salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 6m6 minutes ago
    Witness says he's a nudist, doesn't remember if asked #Magnotta to take clothes off. Defence suggests #Magnotta had to respect house rules

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 6m6 minutes ago
    #Magnotta said he was coming June 4, witness says. Wanted to help him set up in Paris.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 5m5 minutes ago
    Did you tell him he had to urinate on you? "AHHHH!?" witness says, apparently shocked #magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 6m6 minutes ago
    #Magnotta said you asked him to urinate on you? HUH? witness blurts out.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 5m5 minutes ago
    You told #Magnotta you'd live like animals at your place? No I think there's a bit of craziness in that talk.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 4m4 minutes ago
    There are many specialities on the site PlanetRomeo, Leclair says. Was it for romance that you got in touch? #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    Was it romance & love w/ #Magnotta, like headings on Planet Romeo?No,didn't know each other so that notion is completely farfetched.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 4m4 minutes ago
    When you go on this sites, there's a goal an objective, you're not just looking at the Rocky Mountains, Leclair says #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 3m3 minutes ago
    I wasn't looking for anything in particular, he says. You're not into leather, teddy bears... Witness is looking very perplexed #magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 3m3 minutes ago
    Were you into S+M? No, not then and not now, witness says. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
    Witness says he got #Magnotta's message and gave him his address so he could go over there.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
    So you were sort of friends? I don't think so, we were acquaintances, witness says. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    So friends for sexual activities? No, that's not right. #Magnotta



    Crawling Spiders ‏@lumiere022 · 3m3 minutes ago
    #Magnotta Drinking game!: each time the defense asks questions to a witness about their sex life, you drink!

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    Had to throw in that last one. I think there would be a lot of drunk people by the end of the cross.

    Seriously? Not one question for Sylvie Bordelais? Not even if she knew Emile Lacroix or was into S&M?

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    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 5m5 minutes ago
    #Magnotta was calm at my place, witness says. He could discuss French politics a bit. Wasn't verbally aggressive

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 5m5 minutes ago
    DId #Magnotta verbally assault you? No. Physically touch you, assault you? No.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    Nothing stolen from you? No. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 5m5 minutes ago
    Did #Magnotta touch you at all? No, witness says. Nothing was stolen from my place he says

    Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 4m4 minutes ago
    Witness said that #Magnotta was calm at his place. They were able to discuss French politics a bit. And wasn't at all verbally aggressive

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
    Did police ask you to testify at trial?No. Accepted to come to testify? No. If expenses paid? Not even. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 4m4 minutes ago
    Would you agree to come to Canada to testify Leclair asks. No, says witness. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
    Did you ask #Magnotta to defecate on the floor? No, certainly not.

    Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 4m4 minutes ago
    Leclair completes his line of question to the witness. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 3m3 minutes ago
    Lunch break in #magnotta. Back at 2:15

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    Well it looks to me as if LM was able to give his attorney lots of information about his life on the run. Lies, delusional hallucinations or the truth? Hard to say.

    MOO

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