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    Quote Originally Posted by patCee View Post
    I don't think he's baiting. He presents as a man who is not in touch with himself and detached from people. He can't express himself so he utters religious tracts to cover up. In the interview with Aimee he wears a pained expression, but is wooden, and objectifies feelings rather than owning them. The circumstances aside I don't think he's a man who is at ease in his own skin. There's something about him that makes me feel uncomfortable.

    Here's the interview with Aimee.

    http://www.enca.com/south-africa/big...imee-speak-out
    Sorry - i got distracted.
    BIB - I agree.
    On that baiting issue . Reason I don't think it is just delusion, insensitivity and being blinkered etc. - although I have seen a lot of that - when he tweets that Hebrew word of the devil =prosecutor, I think that's quite a direct and pointed comment.
    "In hebrew the name Satan (שָּׂטָן) means prosecutor (accuser) under the law. Know your identity under the blood of Christ!"

    "Through the Death of Jesus Christ we were saved from the Devil (death). Know your identity under the blood of Christ by which we are saved!"
    Remember this is the man who re-tweeted the Addams family joke in ref to appearance of Batchelor, Myers etc. That is antagonistic too. The pressure, understandably is getting to him. ( Doubt it's the conscience re the phone.)

    Anyway it's by the by, as another twitter user corrected him on his Hebrew, the next respondent tweeted
    Hans Chanjack " ...& what's the evidence that 1's been saved by the power of the Blood of Jesus? Is it thru tossing or flaunting of Scriptures?"

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    In a nutshell this is what OP said in his bail affidavit on pp.6-7.

    He felt a sense of terror rushing over him. There were no burglar bars on the bathroom window and he knew that the contractors who'd been working on his house had left ladders outside. He thought someone had entered his house but was too scared to turn on the light.

    He then went and got his gun. He screamed for the person/s to get out of the house and for Reeva to phone the police. It was pitch dark and he thought Reeva was in bed. He noticed the bathroom window open and the toilet door was closed. It filled him with horror that an intruder/s may be in the toilet and that he/they must have entered through the unprotected window.

    He fired shots at the door and shouted at Reeva to phone the police. She didn’t respond. While keeping his eyes on the bathroom entrance, he walked backwards into the pitch dark bedroom. He was still too scared to turn on a light. Reeva was still not responding.

    When he reached the bed he realised Reeva was not in bed. That’s when he realised she may have been in the toilet. He returned to the bathroom calling her name. He tried to open the toilet door but it was locked. He rushed back to the bedroom, opened the sliding door, exited onto the balcony and screamed for help.

    He put on his prosthetic legs, ran back to the bathroom and tried to kick the toilet door open. He thinks he must have turned on the lights. He went back to the bedroom and grabbed the cricket bat and tried to bash the toilet door open. A panel or panels broke off. He found the key and unlocked the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cottonweaver View Post
    Sorry - i got distracted.
    BIB - I agree.
    On that baiting issue . Reason I don't think it is just delusion, insensitivity and being blinkered etc. - although I have seen a lot of that - when he tweets that Hebrew word of the devil =prosecutor, I think that's quite a direct and pointed comment.
    "In hebrew the name Satan (שָּׂטָן) means prosecutor (accuser) under the law. Know your identity under the blood of Christ!"

    "Through the Death of Jesus Christ we were saved from the Devil (death). Know your identity under the blood of Christ by which we are saved!"
    Remember this is the man who re-tweeted the Addams family joke in ref to appearance of Batchelor, Myers etc. That is antagonistic too. The pressure, understandably is getting to him. ( Doubt it's the conscience re the phone.)

    Anyway it's by the by, as another twitter user corrected him on his Hebrew, the next respondent tweeted
    Hans Chanjack " ...& what's the evidence that 1's been saved by the power of the Blood of Jesus? Is it thru tossing or flaunting of Scriptures?"
    I think we are both in agreement, that's what I mean about the religious tracts. Instead of saying 'I hate Nel and hope he suffers for the way he's treating my brother' or worse, he finds a religious tract, objectifying his feelings. In the interviews he talks about responding to the haters with 'love', clearly a lie. He can't say I hate them. He can't say 'I' at all regarding feelings. If he was baiting he would be wanting a response and I'm not sure he does. Hope I'm making sense here.

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    I get it - I hadn't thought of that- objectifying. An interesting insight, thanks- seems very valid.
    Pity he won't ever let slip and allude to the phone!

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    Man, if I don't get in before a thread closes, I have to copy and paste here to ask questions, etc. on things back over there.

    Thus, a whole string will follow.
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    FromGermany... a question for you.

    You posted this in the previous thread. It had four (4) pics of the family sobbing away.


    # 1468

    The day, when OP testified about the "really" drama in the bathroom, the Psychologist cried fiercely like the whole family. That seems also to be as unprofessional as holding hands with the client or warmly embracing him. I had the impression, all family members and Lore H. were very in shock this day; I will never forget.


    How did you get those photos in there?

    It didn't seem like they were connected to URLs. If they were, THAT I can do.
    But, if they are from your computer...

    When I click to upload a photo , I get two choices. URL and Computer.
    Computer has "select file."
    I select, hit OK, and the file appears in the little window.
    But that's it.
    There's no other button in that window that I think might say "upload".

    Thanks in advance.
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    Col Mustard - when I insert an image, I select it from my computer and then I get this pop up with the upload option.

    file.JPG

    Do you see a different page?

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    JudgeJudi, from last thread...

    I wasn't suggesting that was the sole reason lawyers engage in pro bono work. Goodness no! Many are very, very altruistic. It was just that I thought we were talking about some of the big cases/celebrity cases. I hope that G. Bing's post, which was written later in reply to your post, was helpful.


    Judgejudi # 1772

    This is a question best answered by mrjitty. He's not here at the moment so I'll try.

    Some may do it because they see it as a public duty.

    Others may work for self-interested reasons – either to enhance their reputation, to market their services (obviously not in the case of a person such as Roux), as a loss leader for an important client (ditto), to impress someone more senior (ditto), or for other special reasons.

    If the perspective of the client is paramount, then meeting the client's needs irrespective of the lawyer's motivation.

    To assist individuals or organisations whose matter raises an issue of public interest which would not otherwise be pursued.

    To assist charities or other non-profit organisations which work on behalf of low income or disadvantaged members of the community or for the public good.daToday, 02:14 AM
    1468y, 02:14 AM

    #1477 G.Bing

    What?! Never heard of in recent cases,
    1477 G.Bing What?! Never heard of in recent cases, George Zimmerman, Casey Anthony (part pro bono) or theInnocence Project that represents persons wrongly convicted pro bono, especially those facing a death sentence ? Or of the so called, Guantanamo Bay Bar Association that represents, or tries to when ever more draconian laws permit, Guantanamo detainees ? And there's many whose work goes unknown since bar associations in both the US and the UK recommend member advocates to take on a minimum percentage of pro bono work each year.
    George Zimmerman, Casey Anthony (part pro bono) or theInnocence Project that represents persons wrongly convicted pro bono, especially those facing a death sentence ? Or of the so called, Guantanamo Bay Bar Association that represents, or tries to when ever more draconian laws permit, Guantanamo detainees ? And there's many whose work goes unknown since bar associations in both the US and the UK recommend member advocates to take on a minimum percentage of pro bono work each year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RosieC View Post
    Colonel Mustard: Last thread now closed: Comparing Oscar sentence with poaching rhinos for their horns.

    I am an admirer of your posts, with the exception of this comment: #1451 "And, I understand, life without parole if you poach a rhino."

    I do wish that people here, on twitter, and everywhere it seems, would stop this comparison. I'm sure there are others which don't involve cruel killing and the destruction of a species. Rhinos are intelligent sociable animals. They have remarkable vocal communication with each other and the baby rhinos are left distraught after their mothers are killed in front of them.

    Anyone who has read my comments on the Pistorius trial knows my views on the farcical injustice of it, but please can we retain our humanity and reason on other evils as well. Thank you.
    The comparison does not compromise our humanity, to be fair.

    Rhinos are indeed wonderful and poachers do deserve life without parole. But there is certainly something amiss when a man can execute a woman in a toilet and potentially get only 10 months in prison.

    The issue is not that rhino poachers should get less, but that killers of girlfriends should get more.

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    Lemon Mousse replied to:

    1490 Squoozitips
    You remember Henke finally admitting the ammo was his? I wasn't sure if I imagined hearing that!

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    The answer seems to have been yes AND that it was NOT Henke's ammo.

    Questions:

    1. Was it Oscar's? (logical guess)

    2. Even so, why would Henke refuse to sign a (bogus) affidavit (to save his son's a$$)?

    If his dad wouldn't help him - and frankly, never had, I can relate to that. My parents were exactly that way ( and it hurt). Some people/some parents are like that. "While [almost] anyone can have kids, not everyone should."





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    Carl Pistorius @carlpistorius 4h 4 hours ago
    In hebrew the name Satan (שָּׂטָן) means prosecutor (accuser) under the law. Know your identity under the blood of Christ! #savedbygrace

    A few of the choice replies

    J ‏@juanita_le_roux 11h11 hours ago
    @carlpistorius @sanscrit52 And what is the word for accused. Angel?

    Ronaldinhio ‏@Ronaldinhio 11h11 hours ago
    @carlpistorius being a prosecutor is a job not a cast down angel. Thou shall not kill is a commandment. How will God judge you & your brother?

    Mamesh ‏@Mamesh85 12h12 hours ago
    @barrybateman @carlpistorius so Gerrie Nel is Satan. What must happen here must we let trigger happy killer amputees roam free?! GTFOH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judgejudi View Post
    Carl Pistorius @carlpistorius 4h 4 hours ago
    In hebrew the name Satan (שָּׂטָן) means prosecutor (accuser) under the law. Know your identity under the blood of Christ! #savedbygrace

    A few of the choice replies

    J ‏@juanita_le_roux 11h11 hours ago
    @carlpistorius @sanscrit52 And what is the word for accused. Angel?

    Ronaldinhio ‏@Ronaldinhio 11h11 hours ago
    @carlpistorius being a prosecutor is a job not a cast down angel. Thou shall not kill is a commandment. How will God judge you & your brother?

    Mamesh ‏@Mamesh85 12h12 hours ago
    @barrybateman @carlpistorius so Gerrie Nel is Satan. What must happen here must we let trigger happy killer amputees roam free?! GTFOH!
    I think it's disgusting that CP is able to abuse Nel under the cover of "religious" tweets. Is it his ambition for each male in the family to kill a woman and get off free? OP was sentenced to what will probably be less than a year for his crime. You'd think CP would be eternally grateful for such a lenient sentence, show a little humility, and shut up. But he just can't stop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cottonweaver View Post
    BIB , I'm starting to think it might be baiting. Is that possible do you think?
    For whatever reason he does this, I think we should all put him on ignore and not give him the attention that he seems to crave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay-jay View Post
    Quite possibly ..!
    In re: Carl ... baiting.


    I hate to be dense, but exactly what are you guys talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lithgow1 View Post
    Some of his tweets seem so clueless that it does make you wonder. Generally though I think that it's more likely a combo of being not overly bright in tandem with an overriding focus on his family's issues and their supposed faith to the point where these things exclude the sensitivities or opinions of anyone else. Uncle Arnold doesn't appear to be a stupid man yet his tweet about 'goodness destroying evil' was quite lacking in intelligence IMO, especially for someone who seems so concerned about the public perception of his family. Essentially I think they just can't (or won't) see or appreciate much beyond what is happening in their own lives. CP's accident was a good case in point where all the PR statements were about him and how he was doing and nothing at all IIRC about the guy in the other vehicle. So to add to Carl not 'doing' irony, it would seem empathy is largely beyond them as well.

    I say this with respect, and I can't speak for every Christian, but my sister is "born again" and the "formula" she explains to me is very simple.

    1. God is male. God is love.

    2. God sees all and knows all.

    3. God forgives all, if only - and at the very moment - you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

    4. God's will is something humans can/will never understand.

    5. There is a purpose for everything "under heaven", which is always for good and is God's ultimate plan.

    6. There is evil (Satan, devil, bad ) and there is grace (God, love, good) in the world.

    7. The two constantly battle to test human beings faithfulness to God and Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

    The essentials don't even add up to a "baker's dozen", yet if you come back to these every time you read a tweet from Carl, I'm telling you, none of his tweets are hard to understand.

    (Any actual Christians out there, please weigh in. My information is only hearsay.)
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