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    Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 11/3/14 Hearing

    New thread to discuss today's hearing

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    I just have to wonder if JSS will seal the hearing as with so many others...
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    I find all these talks of threats by defense ironic because JA's family has no problem being front and center with their comments to the public on social media and a donations video on YouTube. It does not seem to be an issue with them. jmo

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    There have been other high-profile trials complete with crummy defense lawyers and crummier defendants. Arias is not the first criminal to be hated and despised. I don't believe that there are any real threats. Even if there are, closing the courtroom doors is not an adequate remedy. It's simply a matter of weeks/months before the names/testimonies are released to the public. Who will protect them then? Nurmi will now suggest that their names be sealed for the next 50 years or that they be provided with round-the-clock bodyguards. Diddums! (Thanks again, Gerard!).

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    Re: The YouTube video:
    Note the date on the video in the beginning: September 2014. This was just uploaded yesterday though. It's a painfully obvious attempt to incite more online vitriol. Jodi and the DT keep saying that the media and the "haters" (what an adolescent term!) won't allow them a "fair trial." And yet her supporters are the ones who keep "leaking" inflammatory information and posting things to poke at the Alexanders and anyone who voices sympathy for the Alexanders. They stir the hornets' nest and then try to use that to claim that a lynch mob is making sure Jodi doesn't get a fair trial because that's all they've got. She confessed, is already convicted, and she herself stated in that post-conviction interview that she "has no mitigating factors." And let's not forget that for someone who feels persecuted by the media, SHE'S the one who keeps actively seeking out interviews.
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    The video was opened for comments at first. You would of thought that JA supporters would of been offering their support the parents and their money but what we saw were comments from supposed JA "haters", which I believe were actually JA supporters told to put those kind of comments there. Then the comment section was closed, not to long after. Makes you think that this video was put there for the reason you state. I guess they think we have no reasoning skills.
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    http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...ourt/18423413/


    The panel granted a stay to the media, which means that Judge Sherry Stephens cannot exclude the public and the media from testimony until the Court of Appeals rules on a special action filed by the media. A special action is an expedited appeal.

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    Will the press be at today's hearing? Will it be conducted entirely at sidebar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexMex View Post
    http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...ourt/18423413/


    The panel granted a stay to the media, which means that Judge Sherry Stephens cannot exclude the public and the media from testimony until the Court of Appeals rules on a special action filed by the media. A special action is an expedited appeal.
    BBM: Does that include hearings?
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    elementary: As I understand it from reading the article, the order was about the stay. It isn't clear that everyone now in court is confuzzled by what 'lesser restrictions' means.
    The article doesn't explain that that order has two parts:

    1. It orders a stay on Judge Stephens' court closure. There is no room for disagreement here - The court cannot be closed to the public. Period.

    2. It orders that the court may impose "lesser restrictions". This is the only ambiguous part of the order.

    I think it's safe to assume Martinez and Nurmi are going to disagree about this second part:
    (a) whether any instructions should be imposed (in addition to the broadcast ban), and
    (b) what those might be.

    I also think that this is where Judge Stephens needs to make the decision, now that she is clear what the parameters are.

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    Brent @ Kleinman Law ‏@brentjkleinman 8h8 hours ago
    #JodiArias followers plz understand #Stay granted today doesn't grant definite access to media. It stops secret testimony from continuing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiki View Post
    Will the press be at today's hearing? Will it be conducted entirely at sidebar?
    I sure hope the Appeal Judges had a nice small "sidebar" with JSS last night and kindly explain to her what she has the legal power to do.

    She needs to just reverse her original ruling about kicking out the public and just make the attorneys follow that decision. Its too bad if Nurmi doesnt like it. If the witness doesnt want to testify, then too bad, thats on him.

    This is not up for debate amongst the attorneys and JSS. It should be just JSS making the decisions here.
    If she cannot handle it, then please get on the phone and ask advice of other judges to do the right thing here.

    It is so obvious she is being walked on by the DT because they know they got her wrapped around their finger.
    It is really sad. I really like JSS as a person, but she has proven over and over that she has gone way too far in allowing the DT way too many concessions. And finally it is proven that she has allowed the DT rights that they legally do not have.

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    So.....media, they are allowed?

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    So one more day the Alexander family has to pay for hotels and rental cars and eating out while members of the Court haggle over things that, to me, seem like they should have been taken care of prior to the jurors being sworn in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiki View Post
    Brent @ Kleinman Law ‏@brentjkleinman 8h8 hours ago
    #JodiArias followers plz understand #Stay granted today doesn't grant definite access to media. It stops secret testimony from continuing
    But it does though. The stay is for the order for the media and public to clear the courtroom so that secret testimony can be conducted. The stay puts a hold on that order, meaning secret testimony ceases and they are let back in for witnesses that do not intend to testify in secret. It's why the media was immediately let back in yesterday.

    The motion also basically advises the judge to impose lesser restrictions, such as what she was considering on Thursday before kicking everyone out. She was going to have the media go to the overflow room. They're suggesting she does this and, presumably, there will be no more need for the media's appeal to be heard, unless they feel that isn't good enough, which it should be.

    They are telling her: just no more secret testimony.
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