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    Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 11/21-11/23/14 In recess, Part 2

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    Gads.
    I feel so..Mad.
    A witness, disrespectful of the process, exhibiting Alpha one-upmanship.
    Disgusting.

    This toxic person, and her emotional vampirism, fed on Travis and heartlessly consumed his family.
    She feeds on all of us watching, slowly chewing our hearts.
    Her powers grow, and I don't understand it at all.

    I thank God for the small favor she was placed in a small concrete box BEFORE she multiplied.

    K, I feel a little better..
    200 posts before I catch up..
    Reading is going to make me get scrunchy eye-brows, I just know it...

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    Question:

    If this circus goes on for so long that we start losing jurors and a mistrial has to be declared due to that...could the next retrial be with a different judge or is there some reason why this judge would have to preside?

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    Bringing this over from last thread. Response to AZlawyer saying it is normal for an expert to shake a defendants hand:

    Well, Nurmi has succeeded in dragging out the penalty phase, leaking what goes on in the courtroom, sealing the courtroom proceedings from the public and media, having a secret witness, causing this hearing on motion for mistrial and removal of DP, bringing in a computer expert on porn, and delaying this hearing until December. Oh yes, and bringing in a sexpert who doesn't know what she is talking about and therefore lying to the jury.

    Maybe, possibly, with any kind of luck at all, we will STILL have a jury next year who will decide her punishment.

    Disgraceful!! Thanks Judge Stephens for giving Nurmi the go ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krkrjx View Post
    Question:

    If this circus goes on for so long that we start losing jurors and a mistrial has to be declared due to that...could the next retrial be with a different judge or is there some reason why this judge would have to preside?
    I think if there is a mistrial, this judge would set the sentence. AZlawyer knows for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spycraft View Post
    What a contentious and intense court hearing! I’m sure I am not alone in experiencing significant spikes in blood pressure, and a rabid like desperation to keep up with tweets. BTW, a huge thank you to all who compile tweets for us. I hope you know how appreciated you are!

    Now for a brief OT, which I will move to Sidebar after this: I recently found out I will be housebound for several weeks, unfortunately spoiling holiday plans as well as generally contributing to the insanity of forced and solitary recuperation.

    I am reaching out to anyone who could give me some great reading suggestions. I must have books. If I am to survive this confinement, I must have books! I loved Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn, Michael Connelly books, Jodi Picoult. Any suggestions would be appreciated! I don’t even have a day to go library “shopping” so Amazon it is. (I have Amazon all queued up, ready to accept an overburdened credit card.) I have tried unsuccessfully to read from kindle or a tablet, so old fashioned books it must be. Thanks in advance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curious in Indiana View Post
    I think if there is a mistrial, this judge would set the sentence. AZlawyer knows for sure.
    Thanks Curious...I thought so too but then remembered that if the state does not take DP off the table, she can't sentence. For DP it has to be a jury trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curious in Indiana View Post
    I think if there is a mistrial, this judge would set the sentence. AZlawyer knows for sure.
    Yes, the same judge would preside.

    From Joan (Canada) on the other thread:
    Thanks AZ. I'm really surprised that this is normal procedure that an expert who is supposed to be unbias be allowed to shake hands with the client. Please correct me if I am wrong but didn't ALV get into trouble at the trial for speaking to one of Travis's sister.
    The expert is not supposed to be unbiased. He is a paid witness for the defense.

    ALV got in trouble for speaking to the victim because she's part of the defense team and they are not supposed to directly approach the victims.

    "It would seem to me that June 16, 2008 was the last time that the victim was viewed by her grandparents. It became quite evident that from the OS of the Defense that the 16th was a date of great importance and that a so called time line of activities dealing with CA, LA, GA and ICA on the 16th and what, if any, activities took place on the 15th, 16th and 17th of June on 24 hour cycles would have been, at least, of a minimal requirement of review. I take it at some point you had a computer expert look at that data?" HHJP, 6/21/11
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...139910&page=94

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curious in Indiana View Post
    Bringing this over from last thread. Response to AZlawyer saying it is normal for an expert to shake a defendants hand:

    Well, Nurmi has succeeded in dragging out the penalty phase, leaking what goes on in the courtroom, sealing the courtroom proceedings from the public and media, having a secret witness, causing this hearing on motion for mistrial and removal of DP, bringing in a computer expert on porn, and delaying this hearing until December. Oh yes, and bringing in a sexpert who doesn't know what she is talking about and therefore lying to the jury.

    Maybe, possibly, with any kind of luck at all, we will STILL have a jury next year who will decide her punishment.

    Disgraceful!! Thanks Judge Stephens for giving Nurmi the go ahead.
    So much for objectivity. He's a computer expert. Shouldn't he present himself as an unbiased professional given his role?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krkrjx View Post
    Thanks Curious...I thought so too but then remembered that if the state does not take DP off the table, she can't sentence. For DP it has to be a jury trial.
    Oh, I see what the question was now--sorry.

    If there is a mistrial due to a hung jury or prosecutorial misconduct that doesn't affect the guilt phase verdict, the judge would sentence her to LWOP or LWP. If there is a mistrial due to whatever else, I believe the state could restart with another jury and try again for the DP. If the state takes the DP off the table, the judge would sentence her to LWOP or LWP.

    "It would seem to me that June 16, 2008 was the last time that the victim was viewed by her grandparents. It became quite evident that from the OS of the Defense that the 16th was a date of great importance and that a so called time line of activities dealing with CA, LA, GA and ICA on the 16th and what, if any, activities took place on the 15th, 16th and 17th of June on 24 hour cycles would have been, at least, of a minimal requirement of review. I take it at some point you had a computer expert look at that data?" HHJP, 6/21/11
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...139910&page=94


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    So, what do we really know about the computer guy? What cases has he testified in (I know that he was questioned on his "expertise" in the guilt phase). I'm thinking he's just another one that has been caught in the web of JA - but does he have the ability to manipulate the data? Why would someone do that? I'm so confused as to how the "porn" was or wasn't on the computer (I do get the browser thing...) but, if he (or someone) was actually at a site, wouldn't they have seen it previously - both State and DT experts??

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    From elementary on the other thread:
    But, but, but......he's a computer expert who is supposed to be objective. What am I missing here?
    No, he isn't. He's a paid witness for the defense.

    "It would seem to me that June 16, 2008 was the last time that the victim was viewed by her grandparents. It became quite evident that from the OS of the Defense that the 16th was a date of great importance and that a so called time line of activities dealing with CA, LA, GA and ICA on the 16th and what, if any, activities took place on the 15th, 16th and 17th of June on 24 hour cycles would have been, at least, of a minimal requirement of review. I take it at some point you had a computer expert look at that data?" HHJP, 6/21/11
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...139910&page=94

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZlawyer View Post
    Yes, the same judge would preside.

    From Joan (Canada) on the other thread:

    The expert is not supposed to be unbiased. He is a paid witness for the defense.

    ALV got in trouble for speaking to the victim because she's part of the defense team and they are not supposed to directly approach the victims.
    I find that confusing. Computers are things, not people. Computers can be analysed without bias. Why shake the hand of the defendant then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZlawyer View Post
    From elementary on the other thread:

    No, he isn't. He's a paid witness for the defense.
    Objectivity does not apply here sadly...paid experts are just that....paid to give a schpeel for a side.
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    So what was the upshod of today's hearing??
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