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    Nel moves on to the state’s challenge against the conviction of culpable homicide. Prosecutors want to revive the prospect of a murder conviction

    Nel says the state has “no problem” with the way the judge summarised the actions of Pistorius in her ruling. But the sentence is “shockingly inappropriate”, he repeats. There is a reasonable prospect of convincing another court to impose a longer sentence, he argues.

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    Nel: the ct did not take into account, as it should have, ALL the CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE... the court did not do that.

    It weighed them each separately, as a feather, and dealt with them separately, and not as a whole....as it should have.


    The court should not reject the defendants version, and contsruct a different version of the story for itself, to rule upon.
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    “Every day that they don’t find something is good for me.“ Billie Dunn

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    Slow down Gerrie. Take your time and spell it all out, nuts and bolts. I think he's rushing hrough his heads. Why should he? He should be talking to Masipa SLOWLY so she can digest it, and MAYBE remember what he's saying.

    Roux will take his sweet time and ramble on and on. She'll remember every word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judgejudi View Post
    Appeal has started
    Well, at the moment just the arguments to request leave to appeal.

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    None of the links seem to be working except 702, but that doesn't seem to be streaming live coverage, just news updates. The SABC's not available here either. :/
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    Nel says the court “may have erred” in its application of the principles of dolus eventualis (the argument Pistorius foresaw that his actions in firing four shots into the door could have led to the death of the person behind it, but went ahead anyway – which would have meant a conviction for murder).

    The court should have taken account of the circumstantial evidence as a whole in determining whether Pistorius acted with dolus eventualis, Nel says.

    The court erred, with respect, in finding that the accused’s version was reasonably possibly true.

    Nel returns to a favourite theme from the trial: that Pistorius had more than one version of his defence, which could not all be true and were “mutually destructive”.
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    702 went live - to Nel speaking in Afrikaans!
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    Is Oscar there?
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    Annika Larsen @AnnikaLarsen · 19m 19 minutes ago
    Oscar courtroom feels far more like a regular one without the main players here. Tension gone. @eNCAnews #OscarPistorius


    Annika Larsen @AnnikaLarsen · 15m 15 minutes ago
    Judge Masipa wears a black not red robe today. Red is only worn for murder trials. Death penalty hangover. OscarPistorius @eNCAnews

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    Good morning
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    Oooo. Nel can whisper sweet nothings in my ear in Afrikaans any time!
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    N: What is a competant verdict? What's count one? - One charge, with different poss results or convictions. ...This court dealt with count one as murder and other counts....This court was correct, acquitted the accused of murder...and said INSTEAD he is convicted culpable homicide.....with utmost respect, it CANNOT be...
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    N: If murder's proven by the state, the court's bound to find an accused guilty of murder...
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