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    OH - Kaylee Schnurr, 18 mos, raped & murdered, Cincinnati, 20 July 2005

    He's accused of attacking his girlfriend's daughter in a home on Knoll Ridge on Wednesday. Police say the the rape and beating lasted 30 minutes. The toddler, named Kay, is on life support at Children's Hospital and is not expected to survive.
    http://wkrc.com/breaking/story.aspx?...C-CFC77D15A479

    On Wednesday, medics and officers responded to Knollridge Lane on a report of a 19-month-old girl not breathing. http://www.wcpo.com/news/2005/local/07/22/rapebeat.html
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    And, yes, if she dies this is murder in the first degree. Could we round up a posse? I am sick and tired of hearing about this stuff.....can't we do more? There has to be something.

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    They have just broken this news on TV, I am waiting on more info. If I find out this was a convicted offender- I really don't know what I will do.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    I just ran his name on Ohio Sex Offender Database and he is not on it.
    According to 6pm news, he tried to rape her and beat her because she screamed! Then he raped her anyway!
    This has got to stop! We have to find a way to tell who is likely to offend
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew
    I just ran his name on Ohio Sex Offender Database and he is not on it.
    According to 6pm news, he tried to rape her and beat her because she screamed! Then he raped her anyway!
    This has got to stop! We have to find a way to tell who is likely to offend
    This was a baby for Christ's sake. OK, let's get a grip. Yes, the answer is in education and it has got to start early and it has to be an open ended situation. Where children feel safe coming forward and adults feel safe telling their knowledge. Open ended at all costs or no one will do anything. It isn't about money....it is about safety.Money won't make honest people do anything, family loyalty/dysfunction will be a bigger motivator.Tell them/show them they are not crazy. Explain that their situation is unique to personality disordered families and the cycle is abusive. Talk, talk, talk and then they will listen. Quite talking about vioxx on cable news channels and do something that will prevent horrendous sexual abuse and repeat offenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concernedperson
    This was a baby for Christ's sake. OK, let's get a grip. Yes, the answer is in education and it has got to start early and it has to be an open ended situation. Where children feel safe coming forward and adults feel safe telling their knowledge. Open ended at all costs or no one will do anything. It isn't about money....it is about safety.Money won't make honest people do anything, family loyalty/dysfunction will be a bigger motivator.Tell them/show them they are not crazy. Explain that their situation is unique to personality disordered families and the cycle is abusive. Talk, talk, talk and then they will listen. Quite talking about vioxx on cable news channels and do something that will prevent horrendous sexual abuse and repeat offenders.
    This is the 2nd baby in Cincinnati to be raped in what 2-3 mos? This baby was old enough to try to resist so she gets beaten- probably to death!
    They say the beating lasted for approx 30 min! For a baby! A baby!
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    I love keeping abreast of the news, but this kind I can do without! This guy, without a doubt, should be given the JDB punishment........ nail it to the floor, douse the room with gasoline and give him a knife! I am not kidding here either when I say this, I think this is exactly what they should do to these people! And then they can have their day in court!

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    Quote Originally Posted by poco
    I love keeping abreast of the news, but this kind I can do without! This guy, without a doubt, should be given the JDB punishment........ nail it to the floor, douse the room with gasoline and give him a knife! I am not kidding here either when I say this, I think this is exactly what they should do to these people! And then they can have their day in court!
    I agree. But the cycle of abuse has to stop . It has to stop before there is a baby beaten and raped to death. Let's pull together somehow on this and make our voices heard. I mean this. We can do something.

    Some of the best minds in the world are on this forum. We understand victimology more than others because we have been victims ourselves. We gather and share and grieve over all these crimes.But we need to shout about what we know and we need to make it obvious. We need to take advantage of the current news and shout....yes...there are more victims out there. Yes, we don't like it and yes, we will stop it. Pretty dramatic, I know but this is the kind of thing that will make a difference. So much.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by concernedperson
    I agree. But the cycle of abuse has to stop . It has to stop before there is a baby beaten and raped to death. Let's pull together somehow on this and make our voices heard. I mean this. We can do something.

    Some of the best minds in the world are on this forum. We understand victimology more than others because we have been victims ourselves. We gather and share and grieve over all these crimes.But we need to shout about what we know and we need to make it obvious. We need to take advantage of the current news and shout....yes...there are more victims out there. Yes, we don't like it and yes, we will stop it. Pretty dramatic, I know but this is the kind of thing that will make a difference. So much.......
    I don't see how something like this can be stopped. As long as there are people on this earth, there will be crueltry, hatred, etc. IMO, you make the crime fit the punishment. I think if you knew for certain that if you got caught stealing, you would get your hand chopped off, I think it would really deter thievery.

    When the criminal has as much, if not more, rights than the victim, there is a real problem!!!

    I'm just really angry right now with this thread.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by poco
    I don't see how something like this can be stopped. As long as there are people on this earth, there will be crueltry, hatred, etc. IMO, you make the crime fit the punishment. I think if you knew for certain that if you got caught stealing, you would get your hand chopped off, I think it would really deter thievery.

    When the criminal has as much, if not more, rights than the victim, there is a real problem!!!

    I'm just really angry right now with this thread.....
    Trust me, you won't get any opposition to the death penalty from me. What I am saying is recognition so more crimes can be acknowledged and prosecuted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by concernedperson
    Trust me, you won't get any opposition to the death penalty from me. What I am saying is recognition so more crimes can be acknowledged and prosecuted.
    Hey, CP, IMO, the DP is the easy way out for these perps.

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    Poor little baby, we need to think positively for her sake, maybe she will pull through this and have a chance at good life.

    This cruel SOB can rot in jail for the rest of his life. no parole for sex offenders.. ever!

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    A 19-year-old confessed to raping and beating his girlfriend's 18-month-old daughter, and the child is not expected to survive, police said.

    Matthew Carovilano said he beat the child for several minutes with his hands after raping her, police said.

    The police chief told News 5 it is the worst case he has seen in 27 years.

    Doctors there discovered trauma throughout the child's body. They were told the baby fell from the bed, but they didn't believe that story.

    The child's skull had to be cracked to relieve pressure.

    The child stopped breathing twice Friday and had to be revived.
    http://www.channelcincinnati.com/new...30/detail.html
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    This guys brain needs to be removed, so they can study it. Animals like him can only serve mankind as guinea pigs for study.

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    Lord, help us all.

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