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    Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/9-1/12 Break

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    Quote Originally Posted by mydirtysecret View Post
    Not directly, no. But I really do find the supposition of what BK is suggesting is the most plausible explanation of what caused the now notorious huge fight. The dates and context knowing what we do now, I can definitely see that being the most likely ignition to the inferno that ensued.



    Yes. He was demanding she disclose the name of someone she claimed gave her information about him. Obviously Jodi made up a story that this person came to her work and told her secrets about Travis (hmmm,,just like when people showed up and told her about Matt and Bianca!) to cover that she'd been email/Facebook snooping. He was pissed. Taylor Searle confirms he suspected her hacking

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexMex View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mydirtysecret View Post
    Not directly, no. But I really do find the supposition of what BK is suggesting is the most plausible explanation of what caused the now notorious huge fight. The dates and context knowing what we do now, I can definitely see that being the most likely ignition to the inferno that ensued.



    Yes. He was demanding she disclose the name of someone she claimed gave her information about him. Obviously Jodi made up a story that this person came to her work and told her secrets about Travis (hmmm,,just like when people showed up and told her about Matt and Bianca!) to cover that she'd been email/Facebook snooping. He was pissed. Taylor Searle confirms he suspected her hacking
    Yup I completely agree this is what started the.big fight. Jodi had harassed, intimidated and scared of e 2 previous serious potential love matches for Travis and here she was, doing it again. It set him off. In his mind, she knew how important being sealed in temple was for him and she sabotaging any chance for him of having that
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridagld
    He said he worked on case Oct./Nov..about time Dorian was on case and JA was representing herself. Then he was "let go" (paraphrasing). And, called back again or up again in Jan 2015..after the fiasco with BN


    So he (referring to Sue D Nimh/John Smith) was actually hired by JA/Dorian while she was pro se? If that's accurate I find it even more incredulous that the judge would allow this witness to hide his identity. We all what a sneaky snake JA can be, so it is quite possible there could be real problems with Smith, his background, and/or his connection to JA. I have a very hard time seeing a valid argument to keep this so-called professional, self crowned data scientist, identity secret. That said, it seems there's a clear pattern of secrecy with little visible validity in this case, so it's just par for the course to allow yet another part of an open court procedure become secret.
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    Case Documents

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    Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
    1/8/2015 005 - ME: Hearing - Party (001) 1/8/2015
    1/8/2015 095 - ME: Oral Argument Reset - Party (001) 1/8/2015
    1/8/2015 029 - ME: Status Conference - Party (001) 1/8/2015
    1/7/2015 MIL - Motion In Limine - Party (001) 1/8/2015
    NOTE: Motion in Limine to Preclude the State from Eliciting Testimony Regarding Work Drives
    1/7/2015 SDO - Order to Seal Documents - Party (001) 1/8/2015
    NOTE: SUPPLEMENT TO STATE'S OBJECTION TO DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION AND MOTION TO DISMISS


    https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.g...=CR2008-031021
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    Regarding the transcripts (won't let me paste):

    Agree that there is really no excuse for this to be talking an additional week. I don't buy it. In the Michael Dunn retrial, there was a juror issue. It was handled at a sidebar (not in chambers, imagine that) and the juror was released. The next morning a transcript of the sidebar was released to the media with redacted portions, for discretion, and we found out why the juror was dismissed (imagine THAT) after John Guy announced in open court (in OPEN court, you say?) what the issue with the juror was (though we already knew a day earlier due to an article that was posted).

    Granted, it wasn't 400 pages (how did she manage 400 pages of testimony in less than two days????) but it's still relevant. There arent that many outlets requesting transcripts, printing doesn't take that long, and there are, of course, PDFs. There is no excuse, IMO for it taking so long. The media gives you the money, you give them the transcript. So again, IMO, this delay is due to the judge wanting to see the order (for reasons) and at the defense's request (so they can make a game plan, probably to strategically figure out how to schedule their witnesses around the transcript release or to come up with some other scheme/motion before then).
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    So if this guy is his own boss, then he would have to fire himself for mishandling the computer?

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    Have any of the defenses witnesses totally completed testifying? It just seems to me that I can't remember JM and the jury getting to either begin cross or ask questions of any of the witnesses so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steft50 View Post
    Have any of the defenses witnesses totally completed testifying? It just seems to me that I can't remember JM and the jury getting to either begin cross or ask questions of any of the witnesses so far.
    Dr F is the only one to have completed her testimony and cross examination that I'm aware of.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MeeBee View Post
    Regarding the transcripts (won't let me paste):

    Agree that there is really no excuse for this to be talking an additional week. I don't buy it. In the Michael Dunn retrial, there was a juror issue. It was handled at a sidebar (not in chambers, imagine that) and the juror was released. The next morning a transcript of the sidebar was released to the media with redacted portions, for discretion, and we found out why the juror was dismissed (imagine THAT) after John Guy announced in open court (in OPEN court, you say?) what the issue with the juror was (though we already knew a day earlier due to an article that was posted).

    Granted, it wasn't 400 pages (how did she manage 400 pages of testimony in less than two days????) but it's still relevant. There arent that many outlets requesting transcripts, printing doesn't take that long, and there are, of course, PDFs. There is no excuse, IMO for it taking so long. The media gives you the money, you give them the transcript. So again, IMO, this delay is due to the judge wanting to see the order (for reasons) and at the defense's request (so they can make a game plan, probably to strategically figure out how to schedule their witnesses around the transcript release or to come up with some other scheme/motion before then).

    100 pages of her testimony and 300 pages of Juan objecting
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    Quote Originally Posted by KPinMN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by floridagld
    He said he worked on case Oct./Nov..about time Dorian was on case and JA was representing herself. Then he was "let go" (paraphrasing). And, called back again or up again in Jan 2015..after the fiasco with BN


    So he (referring to Sue D Nimh/John Smith) was actually hired by JA/Dorian while she was pro se? If that's accurate I find it even more incredulous that the judge would allow this witness to hide his identity. We all what a sneaky snake JA can be, so it is quite possible there could be real problems with Smith, his background, and/or his connection to JA. I have a very hard time seeing a valid argument to keep this so-called professional, self crowned data scientist, identity secret. That said, it seems there's a clear pattern of secrecy with little visible validity in this case, so it's just par for the course to allow yet another part of an open court procedure become secret.
    I actually believe that JA contacted BN for his "expertise" regarding the computer. She must have been very impressed with his "ninja in the eye" work. I also believe it was him who wanted the "expert" work but had to get someone else to do the actual report for him and that he was going to try to fudge it until he realized he was in way over his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mydirtysecret View Post
    Yup I completely agree this is what started the.big fight. Jodi had harassed, intimidated and scared of e 2 previous serious potential love matches for Travis and here she was, doing it again. It set him off. In his mind, she knew how important being sealed in temple was for him and she sabotaging any chance for him of having that

    Placed in context with the argument, it makes sense to me too. Perhaps Jodi did something else too like sent her an email addressed from Travis or with secrets about Travis and Jodi addressed from Steve the jealous ex and it set off an argument about many things, with this incident being the catalyst. It was probably something more than just the hacking because he was very upset and he knew she was hacking his stuff already. She may have done something to sabotage the relationship and blamed it on the guy who was helping her with her blog, which is why she was telling him about the jealous ex boyfriend and how she shouldn't have given him access to her stuff (something like that). Travis just wasn't buying it at all and the more she lied the angrier he got.

    I can actually see this being the thing that caused the argument.
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    So ... the transcripts were not released this afternoon.

    Surprise Surprise . . . NOT !

    This has gone beyond outrageous !
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    Quote Originally Posted by KPinMN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by floridagld
    He said he worked on case Oct./Nov..about time Dorian was on case and JA was representing herself. Then he was "let go" (paraphrasing). And, called back again or up again in Jan 2015..after the fiasco with BN


    So he (referring to Sue D Nimh/John Smith) was actually hired by JA/Dorian while she was pro se? If that's accurate I find it even more incredulous that the judge would allow this witness to hide his identity. We all what a sneaky snake JA can be, so it is quite possible there could be real problems with Smith, his background, and/or his connection to JA. I have a very hard time seeing a valid argument to keep this so-called professional, self crowned data scientist, identity secret. That said, it seems there's a clear pattern of secrecy with little visible validity in this case, so it's just par for the course to allow yet another part of an open court procedure become secret.
    I think what happened is that Sue did some work and that was supposed to be the end of his involvement - he never expected to testify. Then we had the fun and games where BN was accusing Juan of not knowing computers - which ended up with Juan proving that BN didn't know diddly squat, so he had to bail and they had to browbeat Sue into taking the stand. But of course that gave them the opportunity to screw with Juan and waste a week or so of his time chasing ghosts.

    And then it seemed like KN realized how devastating to his lies the whole Incinerator business was, so he moved to keep that out. And of course he was successful in that regard. Certainly we shouldn't introduce any evidence that the defense tinkered with the evidence and then used that tainted evidence to accuse the state of destroying evidence. What relevance could that possible have?

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