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    Retrieving wreckage from AirAsia Flight To Singapore- no survivors recovered #3

    An AirAsia flight from Indonesia to Singapore has lost contact with air traffic controllers, according to local media.
    The plane had asked for an unusual route before it lost contact.
    An Indonesian transport official confirmed the plane was an Airbus 320-200 and that 162 passengers and crew were on board.
    http://news.sky.com/story/1398597/co...t-to-singapore

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    A statement on AirAsia's Facebook page said: "AirAsia Indonesia regrets to confirm that flight QZ8501 from Surabaya to Singapore has lost contact with air traffic control at 0724hrs this morning.

    "At the present time we unfortunately have no further information regarding the status of the passengers and crew members on board, but we will keep all parties informed as more information becomes available.

    "The aircraft was an Airbus A320-200 with the registration number PK-AXC. At this time, search and rescue operations are in progress and AirAsia is cooperating fully and assisting the rescue service."

    The airline has set up an emergency call centre for family or friends of those who may have been on board the aircraft. The number is: +622129850801.

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    The tail section of the Air Asia flight QZ8501 is prepared to be loaded onto a truck at port in Kumai, Indonesia


    And just to put this info on the new thread ... where the search is, to date. It is nearly 4am Monday morning in the area right now.


    "The navy divers in Jadayat state boat have succeeded in finding a very important instrument, the black box of AirAsia QZ8501," said Tonny Budiono, , a navigation director for the transport ministry.

    "The black boxes are in a crushed part of the aircraft debris, making it very difficult for the team of divers," said Mr Budiono.

    "Because of time constraints, (we) have decided to retrieve the black boxes tomorrow morning by gradually shifting these layers of aircraft body debris."

    But if that fails, Mr Budiono said divers would lift the debris using inflatable balloons, the same technique used to lift the tail section on Saturday.


    http://www.smh.com.au/world/airasia-...11-12m4f8.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthAussie View Post

    The tail section of the Air Asia flight QZ8501 is prepared to be loaded onto a truck at port in Kumai, Indonesia


    And just to put this info on the new thread ... where the search is, to date. It is nearly 4am Monday morning in the area right now.


    "The navy divers in Jadayat state boat have succeeded in finding a very important instrument, the black box of AirAsia QZ8501," said Tonny Budiono, , a navigation director for the transport ministry.

    "The black boxes are in a crushed part of the aircraft debris, making it very difficult for the team of divers," said Mr Budiono.

    "Because of time constraints, (we) have decided to retrieve the black boxes tomorrow morning by gradually shifting these layers of aircraft body debris."

    But if that fails, Mr Budiono said divers would lift the debris using inflatable balloons, the same technique used to lift the tail section on Saturday.


    http://www.smh.com.au/world/airasia-...11-12m4f8.html
    Thanks SouthAussie for all your updates they are always much appreciated. I hope the weather is calm enough for them to get the boxes up & of course any remains and then wreckage in the coming days.

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    am so relieved that the boxes have been located

    just adding another link - this one has the youtube illustration of the retrieved stabilizer and roof -

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/25960346...lane-ministry/
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    Russia leaving the search now:

    "In yet another new development that adds to the media confusion, an official of Russian team taking part in the search operation confirmed on the finding of the blackbox, saying that its whereabouts is around the Karimata Strait.

    He, however said that the blackbox was yet to be able to be lifted up to surface.

    "The blackbox has already found. But according to information that I received, it cannot be lifted up yet," the military expert at Russia's State of Emergency Ministry Edward Chizikov told a press conference in East Jakarta air forces base of Halim Perdanakusumah on Sunday.

    With the finding of the blackbox, Edward declared that Russia mission in the operation to evacuate debris and bodies of from the crashed AirAsia plane has finished. "

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20..._127377265.htm

    here are the coordinates from this article

    "Prior to the press conference, a press release by Indonesia's Transport Ministry said that the blackbox of the plane was believed to be located at 03:37:21 South and 109:42:42 East and wedged between pieces of wreckage."
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    Quote Originally Posted by newone View Post
    Russia leaving the search now:

    "In yet another new development that adds to the media confusion, an official of Russian team taking part in the search operation confirmed on the finding of the blackbox, saying that its whereabouts is around the Karimata Strait.

    He, however said that the blackbox was yet to be able to be lifted up to surface.

    "The blackbox has already found. But according to information that I received, it cannot be lifted up yet," the military expert at Russia's State of Emergency Ministry Edward Chizikov told a press conference in East Jakarta air forces base of Halim Perdanakusumah on Sunday.

    With the finding of the blackbox, Edward declared that Russia mission in the operation to evacuate debris and bodies of from the crashed AirAsia plane has finished. "

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20..._127377265.htm

    here are the coordinates from this article

    "Prior to the press conference, a press release by Indonesia's Transport Ministry said that the blackbox of the plane was believed to be located at 03:37:21 South and 109:42:42 East and wedged between pieces of wreckage."
    I am not surprised that others are leaving/have left the mission. I have not read one word of thanks from Indonesia for the efforts and expense put in by the other nations. Whenever anything is achieved, Indonesia only speaks of its own crews and its own ships. The only way we have known that all of those other many, many search ships and planes have achieved anything at all is from scant reports by media from other countries.

    It is a darn shame, and quite discourteous imo.

    Official word on anything can only come out of Indonesia. We have no idea when their press conferences are ... we just get a few sentences from them after they happen. I have not seen anything like it before in the various air crashes and disasters that I have followed.


    ETA: And now they are going to take the black boxes back to Jakarta to interrogate the info. Do they even have the facilities to do that? The last I heard, during the initial MH370 search, was that Singapore, South Korea and Australia were the only countries in this area that had those facilities.
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    I think the look on this investigator's face says it all ... about the condition of the tail after it was dragged on board the ship.




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    now listen carefully to the video (CBS) I was pretty sure I heard:

    '' search and rescue' first thought they saw waving when they saw first bodies in water''

    ((the first time they found bodies and debris before any were recovered))

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-sig...asia-jetliner/
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    Quote Originally Posted by newone View Post
    now listen carefully to the video (CBS) I was pretty sure I heard:

    '' search and rescue' first thought they saw waving when they saw first bodies in water''

    ((the first time they found bodies and debris before any were recovered))

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-sig...asia-jetliner/

    Yes, he says "At first he and his crew thought the bodies they saw in the water were waving for help."

    (I have to say, as I watched the man in the water (first time I have seen that) one of his leg looks as though it is swimming slowly but rhythmically, keeping afloat.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthAussie View Post
    Yes, he says "At first he and his crew thought the bodies they saw in the water were waving for help."

    (I have to say, as I watched the man in the water (first time I have seen that) one of his leg looks as though it is swimming slowly but rhythmically, keeping afloat.)
    Could it possibly be the currents of the sea giving this impression? I would hate to think there were survivors who were alive for many hours then succumbed to drowning awaiting help.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthAussie View Post
    Yes, he says "At first he and his crew thought the bodies they saw in the water were waving for help."
    Thank you.....nearly fell from my perch when I heard that. I appreciate the confirmation.

    It was a co pilot of a search plane that said that....((bet it was not an Indonesian search plane MOO))

    That was the first time I heard that 'video' .....I was looking for more of what you were describing as the thankless tasks performed by other nations on behalf of Indonesia when that link appeared from CBS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newone View Post
    thank you.....nearly fell from my perch when I heard that I appreciate the confirmation.

    it was a co pilot of a search plane that said that....((bet it was not an Indonesian search plane MOO))

    That was the first time I heard that 'video' .....I was looking for more of what you were describing as the thankless tasks performed by other nations on behalf of Indonesia when that link appeared from CBS.

    Having seen that, I also agree with what others said in the previous thread. Removing shoes and outerwear is the first thing I was taught to do when I did a lifesaving course many moons ago. Get rid of the clothes that will weigh you down and retard your ability to stay afloat. Unless he was wearing a robe that floated off, why was he not dressed as the other people found floating were?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthAussie View Post
    Having seen that, I also agree with what others said in the previous thread. Removing shoes and outerwear is the first thing I was taught to do when I did a lifesaving course many moons ago. Get rid of the clothes that will weigh you down and retard your ability to stay afloat. Unless he was wearing a robe that floated off, why was he not dressed as the other people found floating were?

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