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    Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/20 Sizzle Break

    Other thread is getting full so this one is open until court tomorrow afternoon.

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    I have a question - if any of the people supplying affidavits have criminal backgrounds, can Juan point this out somehow? Is there anyway to refer to the person's reputation, as they are not there to answer? Sorry if this doesn't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryND View Post
    I have a question - if any of the people supplying affidavits have criminal backgrounds, can Juan point this out somehow? Is there anyway to refer to the person's reputation, as they are not there to answer? Sorry if this doesn't make sense.
    Yes, he could have Flores testify as to any criminal history.

    "It would seem to me that June 16, 2008 was the last time that the victim was viewed by her grandparents. It became quite evident that from the OS of the Defense that the 16th was a date of great importance and that a so called time line of activities dealing with CA, LA, GA and ICA on the 16th and what, if any, activities took place on the 15th, 16th and 17th of June on 24 hour cycles would have been, at least, of a minimal requirement of review. I take it at some point you had a computer expert look at that data?" HHJP, 6/21/11
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    Maybe JM could reintroduce the smuggled magazines to discredit McGee's affidavit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickshawFan View Post
    Maybe JM could reintroduce the smuggled magazines to discredit McGee's affidavit?
    I would love for this jury to see those magazines! I would also love it if Juan could play a tape from one of JA's jail visits where SHE was telling the visitor what to say.
    So far all the affidavits sound to me like they came from the JA support sites, where nobody really knows her or has even met her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICit View Post
    I would love for this jury to see those magazines! I would also love it if Juan could play a tape from one of JA's jail visits where SHE was telling the visitor what to say.
    So far all the affidavits sound to me like they came from the JA support sites, where nobody really knows her or has even met her!
    And yet this crap is allowed in. With names being withheld. For all we know half of it is some made up ****.

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    I know I have seen in other cases where additional witnesses were added in a rebuttal case that weren't on the original rebuttal list.

    Iirc, this was because the defense brought up something new in their part of the case and the Judges allowed the state to rebut it with additional witnesses in their rebuttal case.

    So will Juan also be afforded the same by JSS or will he be hamstrung leaving the DT to get away with having witnesses say anything they want without Juan having any way to rebuke them?

    If so, how in the world can anyone say this is about fairness and justice?
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    I'm worried. JSS has let enough foolishness in front of this jury for some numbskull on the jury to say "hell, I 'm worn out. I don't know which way is up, I'm so confused. But where there is smoke, must be a little bit of fire. He picked the wrong girl to mess around with. Give her life."

    That makes me sick to my stomach, but I'm for real worried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nali87 View Post
    I'm sorry but this is total ********. The reason we so readily disregarded the stuff Matt from New Zealand said is because we know his history of crazy. This jury does not. Will they accept the fact that someone will actually LIE like this? These are very serious things to lie about - domestic violence and pedophilia. If I were on this jury I might go "Well what reason does this witness have to lie? The ex girlfriend might be lying to protect Travis' memory". So my question is can JM bring up some of the ******** Matt has been typing and saying online or is he limited by the fact that this coward didn't reveal his name?
    I think Juan will be able to refute it based upon it's total implausibility. It is laughable. The jury will see that and wonder why the guy wouldn't face them and tell the odd story. They know he has his own computer in his own home. They know he was concerned with staying in the good graces of the temple. Why would he assault his gf in the Bishops livingroom in front in witnesses, and download child porn on the Bishops computer and put it in a file with his own name? And why didnt this witness warn the Bishop that he had illegal porn on his computer in his home? Why wouldnt the bishop himself come forward , in support of Jodi, if travis really did all of these evil deeds? JMO
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    I am seriously done with this retrial now. I mean it. To think I ruined my sleeping pattern and got insomnia for this BS. And JSS sucks. I'll see some of you occasionally over at the Boston bomber thread. Have a good night.


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    Originally Posted by katydid23
    I think he will be able to use past testimony to refute current accusations brought up by the DT.


    Nali: He doesn't have any testimony of this Matt guy. None.
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    I didnt mean past testimony of Matt. I meant past testimony of Deanna. I think I remember her talking about her missionary travels and how it affected their relationship. So he can get in her travel dates at least. And her statements that TA never mistreated her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LambChop View Post
    Other thread is getting full so this one is open until court tomorrow afternoon.

    Thank You, WAT -- I mean LambChop !

    Just saw WAT's word "Sizzle" on the Title of this Thread and couldn't resist !


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    Quote Originally Posted by decemberbee45 View Post
    I'm worried. JSS has let enough foolishness in front of this jury for some numbskull on the jury to say "hell, I 'm worn out. I don't know which way is up, I'm so confused. But where there is smoke, must be a little bit of fire. He picked the wrong girl to mess around with. Give her life."

    That makes me sick to my stomach, but I'm for real worried.
    I am not worried but I am mad as hell.

    I wont get worried until I see that Juan has been given no way to rebut these claims.

    I have total faith in Juan. There have been times in this trial I was worried because the DT has played gutter ball from the beginning but once Juan had his chance to set the record straight I realized I didn't have to worry after all.

    I am keeping the faith that Juan can and will bring the truth forward.

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    If this occurred in November, she may have been home for Thanksgiving?
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    I may be wrong about this, but I don't think that missionaries typicallly return home for holidays. My friends were always gone the entire duration of their mission. No returning home unless some kind of emergency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by decemberbee45 View Post
    I'm worried. JSS has let enough foolishness in front of this jury for some numbskull on the jury to say "hell, I 'm worn out. I don't know which way is up, I'm so confused. But where there is smoke, must be a little bit of fire. He picked the wrong girl to mess around with. Give her life."

    That makes me sick to my stomach, but I'm for real worried.
    That could happen, sure. Even when a case is presented well and moves along at a good pace with no major weird games being played and the phase ends with few or no distractions, a jury could still come back with a decision not to give a defendant the DP. Or a jury could hang with no unanimous decision, that too is a possibility.

    Worst case scenario: she gets LWOP in prison.

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