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    Question: So the search teams were just searching the area around Sun City Anthem because they think he may have gone up there and committed suicide. So how are they explaining his cell phone pings the next morning in the Whitney Ranch area, which is 11 miles from his last known location? Someone had his phone and was in the Whitney Ranch area on the morning of 12/14, who was it and why did they have possession of Stevenís phone if he had committed suicide? Doesnít make any sense. I donít think this is a case of suicide. Iíve watched the video of him walking a million times, he had a destination and was carrying some type of folder with him, he wasnít going to wander off in the desert.

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    Also, people often pick places of significance to commit suicide. Was there a place in/near Sun City Anthem that was special to Steven for some reason? Most people that knew him said he didnít have ties to that area, so why would he randomly choose that area to commit suicide? Again, doesnít make any sense.

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    Hi, I visit this site occasionally and pray for the missing to be found, and I do want to help if I can. I hope Steven will be found soon, my heart aches for his family.

    I'm from SLC Utah and have been to St. George & Vegas many times. Don't know if anyone has pointed this out, but Las Vegas & Henderson are only about 120 miles from St. George Utah, so Steven could have easily gone down & back for an odd job or two in the days BEFORE he went missing (250-270 miles round trip is not considered a long trip in the western states). He was broke but if he thought he had found a way to make some good money fast, he would undoubtedly have felt it worth driving to Vegas for. His car had about 400 miles range on a full tank of gas. When he bought gas in Mesquite NV on Saturday 12/12 at 5:04 p.m Utah time, he had probably been to Vegas & back that day, because people from St. George usually don't go to Mesquite except as a gas stop to or from Las Vegas. He was back in St. George from at least 7:58pm until 10:30pm Saturday night, then left again (to return to Vegas?). See timeline at http://img.ksl.com/slc/2507/250736/25073699.pdf

    I'm sure Steven had been to Vegas plenty of times in his 30 years (don't know why one recent poster on here states that Steven had "never been to Vegas before".....I'm sure he'd been there several times, as I and most other Utahns have). Isn't Henderson almost a suburb of Las Vegas? Many Mormons live in Las Vegas & Henderson, so lots of Mormons visit Vegas, not for gambling, but for other things, and of course Utahns driving to California on I-15 pass through Vegas all the time. And there are surely many more work opportunities in the Vegas area than in St. George. When Steven parked his car on that cul-de-sac, I believe he was walking to a certain house or to be picked up by someone in a car, and probably knew exactly where he was going because probably he had been there the day before and IMHO was going back to get paid for his work. He probably wouldn't have missed church unless there was a good reason. He was apparently desperate for money. What if the people paid him a little on Saturday, enough to cover the gas, and told him they couldn't pay the rest until the next day? Possibly there was more work to finish up, and they promised to pay him after it was all done. I definitely do NOT feel that Steven committed suicide, because of the phone pings in different locations after he walked away from his car, and because of his purposeful stride, and other things. I don't believe either that he intended to disappear and start a new life. Whether he was gay or not isn't really relevant so shouldn't be brought into this at all.

    The most likely scenario is that he found what he thought was going to be lucrative short-term work or tasks or deliveries, to earn quick cash to pay his overdue bills and get money for Christmas. Perhaps it was from a craigslist ad that he found using the library computer (since nothing was found on his personal computer). Work such as passing out flyers at various apartment complexes where he was driven to with a group, or helping someone move furniture or other stuff, putting up Christmas decorations, or being a courier (he may even have been delivering drug money without knowing that's what was in the packages, or delivering stolen goods that he didn't know were stolen). Or perhaps he was doing something for his landlord. Please don't be so quick to dismiss any of these possiblities. I think he was duped. Perhaps, when it came time that afternoon to pay him, the unsavory character(s) murdered him instead, then drove somewhere and buried his body in the desert, and threw his cell phone out the window. I hate to say it, but he's probably not alive.

    I was very sad to see that the two most likely (IMO) theories for Steven's disappearance suggested on this forum were ignored and/or the people who made those suggestions were slammed as being trolls or worse. One posting said that Steven may have been used as a drug money courier without his knowledge. That sounds like a very, very likely scenario to me, yet the writer was ridiculed and belittled. Even if some details in that story about the cartel seem far-fetched, still, the possibility of unwittingly being used as a drug money courier is valid, and I do hope that the police will look into it thoroughly (the details are in early postings to this thread).

    The other likely scenario is detailed in six messages, October 4, 2014 and March 3, 2015, at http://dogservant.blogspot.com/2012/...n-koecher.html (information about Jason Shane Blevins and Barbara Burch).

    On this WS thread, fasteddy8170 was wrong when he posted on 12-11-2014, "Not to throw a tub full of cold water on the Jason Shane Blevins angle but several things need to be pointed out:
    1. The person who wrote the response didn't even spell Steven's last name correctly. He/she spelled the other names correctly, but not Steven's, despite his full name being in the title of the post."

    Please note that the "Anonymous" poster (whom I'll call AP) said that Jason Shane Blevins and Barbara Burch, whom AP found out later were con artists, stayed for two weeks in the house in the Sun City Anthem neighborhood at AP's invitation, and that AP stayed there with them and they all would sometimes drink. It was AP's mother's house, but she was out of town. By the end of the two weeks, AP said that Jason & Barbara often joked about their "friend" "Steven Kosher", saying that it's too bad that he disappeared and he's not there to help them out anymore, he really helped them out tremendously but then he "disappeared". Then they'd laugh as if it were some inside joke. AP explains that the reason he/she spelled the name as "Kosher" is because he/she was quoting the way Jason & Barbara pronounced it, and AP wasn't at all sure that they were referring to Steven Koecher at all. So AP didn't misspell the name.

    fasteddy8170 says:
    "2. After a look-see at ussearch.com and a couple other sites, there's no record of Jason Shane Blevins ever living in Utah. That would be the only way he would know Steven since Steven never lived anywhere else but in Utah. Yes, there is one Barbara Burch in Utah but that isn't an uncommon name. So, I'm not sure how they would be able to call Steven a good friend."

    Actually AP never claimed that Jason & Barbara lived in Utah or had any connection to Utah at all. Fasteddy8170 apparently missed the "inside joke" that AP says Jason & Barbara were making. Of course "Steven Kosher" wasn't their "good friend" or even a friend at all, they were making a cruel joke by calling him that, making fun of him and of the fact that he "disappeared" after they took advantage of his naiivete in helping them (doing work for them)! They sound like despicable people.

    FastEddy8170 goes on to say:
    "3. The writer claims he/she had comps to a hotel. As someone who lived in Vegas for over 13 years, this sounds like something an out-of-towner would say who's trying to sound like an LV resident. For the record: citizens of Southern NV don't have comps just lying around for themselves or others to use. They may get some free tickets to some shows if they know someone inside the entertainment industry, but that's it. And employees of hotels don't get comps for rooms either--these days they're lucky to have an employee dining room."

    So we all know that you don't get comps just by living in Las Vegas, but if you go to casinos and gamble a lot, you do get comps, whether you live in Las Vegas or not. AP went to casinos and gambled, so he/she got free comps.

    FastEddy8170 says:
    "4. The writer says he got all sorts of info about Jason and Barbara over those two weeks, even ex-girlfriends? I mean, really? So, on one hand the writer admits the two are con artists but on the other hand the writer believes they gave him accurate info?
    I could go on but I think the whole thing smells of some troll. Furthermore, that the writer hasn't appeared on that blog again since 2012 tells you all you need to know."

    Not true. None of AP's writings were in 2012. One was on Oct. 4, 2014, and five were on March 3, 2015. And not true that it smells of some troll. Lots of people surf the net and don't revisit sites they happen across and post to. And staying in the house with them for two weeks, and drinking together, they were bound to mention to AP some names and personal details here and there....they wouldn't have any reason to make up fake names of ex-girlfriends, even if they were con artists. And I was under the impression from what AP said, that he/she looked into their wallets or cell phones when the two weren't aware, and copied down the driver's license info. & etc. "in case they turned out to be shady." And many of the facts about them AP found out later, from their arrest records online, not necessarily from info. that the two said. AP was mainly focused on the fact that they stole all the stuff out of the mother's house after AP told them to leave. No wild allegations. It really was true that they were con men and that they had been arrested many times, as he/she found out later, and that they stole stuff from AP's mother's house.

    Another person on there said PLEASE report this to the Henderson Police, but AP seems to ignore that. And AP says on his/her second post, "not the same Jason Blevins", but I think it IS the same guy. And AP says that the two were joking about a Steven Kosher instead of Steven Koecher, so "it might mean nothing". Therefore AP was minimizing the possible connection to Steven Koecher....quite the opposite of making wild allegations. And AP said he/she had already given all the information to the police, but he/she meant the personal details about the two and what they stole from the mother's house was given to the police, not necessarily any possible connection to the disappearance of Steven Koecher. AP did have a job so apparently he/she wasn't home a lot of the time that Jason & Barbara were staying at the house. It's not clear whether J&B met "Steven Kosher" during the time they were staying at the mother's house, or just previous, but it seems important to find out exactly when J&B stayed at that house, and whether that house is near the cul-de-sac. Did AP work on Saturdays? Steven might have come to that house on Saturday 12/12/09, to do some kind of errands or deliveries for them in his car. J&P had use of the computer at AP's mother's house.....I wonder if that computer could be checked, to see if the two had posted ads on Craigslist? AP says his/her mother still lives in Sun City Anthem. Could someone please give this information to the Henderson police? They should have all of the information already in their files somewhere, details about the two con artists and the incident of stuff being stolen out of the mother's house, so they could easily check whether or not that robbery occurred during December 2009, and they should have the address of the house in their files somewhere, in association with this con artist case but not necessarily being aware of the possible link to Steven Koecher's disappearance.
    Last edited by sanders; 07-16-2015 at 03:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanders View Post
    Hi, I visit this site occasionally and pray for the missing to be found, and I do want to help if I can. I hope Steven will be found soon, my heart aches for his family.

    I'm from SLC Utah and have been to St. George & Vegas many times. Don't know if anyone has pointed this out, but Las Vegas & Henderson are only about 120 miles from St. George Utah, so Steven could have easily gone down & back for an odd job or two in the days BEFORE he went missing (250-270 miles round trip is not considered a long trip in the western states). He was broke but if he thought he had found a way to make some good money fast, he would undoubtedly have felt it worth driving to Vegas for. His car had about 400 miles range on a full tank of gas. When he bought gas in Mesquite NV on Saturday 12/12 at 5:04 p.m Utah time, he had probably been to Vegas & back that day, because people from St. George usually don't go to Mesquite except as a gas stop to or from Las Vegas. He was back in St. George from at least 7:58pm until 10:30pm Saturday night, then left again (to return to Vegas?). See timeline at http://img.ksl.com/slc/2507/250736/25073699.pdf

    I'm sure Steven had been to Vegas plenty of times in his 30 years (don't know why one recent poster on here states that Steven had "never been to Vegas before".....I'm sure he'd been there several times, as I and most other Utahns have). Isn't Henderson almost a suburb of Las Vegas? Many Mormons live in Las Vegas & Henderson, so lots of Mormons visit Vegas, not for gambling, but for other things, and of course Utahns driving to California on I-15 pass through Vegas all the time. And there are surely many more work opportunities in the Vegas area than in St. George. When Steven parked his car on that cul-de-sac, I believe he was walking to a certain house or to be picked up by someone in a car, and probably knew exactly where he was going because probably he had been there the day before and IMHO was going back to get paid for his work. He probably wouldn't have missed church unless there was a good reason. He was apparently desperate for money. What if the people paid him a little on Saturday, enough to cover the gas, and told him they couldn't pay the rest until the next day? Possibly there was more work to finish up, and they promised to pay him after it was all done. I definitely do NOT feel that Steven committed suicide, because of the phone pings in different locations after he walked away from his car, and because of his purposeful stride, and other things. I don't believe either that he intended to disappear and start a new life. Whether he was gay or not isn't really relevant so shouldn't be brought into this at all.

    The most likely scenario is that he found what he thought was going to be lucrative short-term work or tasks or deliveries, to earn quick cash to pay his overdue bills and get money for Christmas. Perhaps it was from a craigslist ad that he found using the library computer (since nothing was found on his personal computer). Work such as passing out flyers at various apartment complexes where he was driven to with a group, or helping someone move furniture or other stuff, putting up Christmas decorations, or being a courier (he may even have been delivering drug money without knowing that's what was in the packages, or delivering stolen goods that he didn't know were stolen). Or perhaps he was doing something for his landlord. Please don't be so quick to dismiss any of these possiblities. I think he was duped. Perhaps, when it came time that afternoon to pay him, the unsavory character(s) murdered him instead, then drove somewhere and buried his body in the desert, and threw his cell phone out the window. I hate to say it, but he's probably not alive.

    I was very sad to see that the two most likely (IMO) theories for Steven's disappearance suggested on this forum were ignored and/or the people who made those suggestions were slammed as being trolls or worse. One posting said that Steven may have been used as a drug money courier without his knowledge. That sounds like a very, very likely scenario to me, yet the writer was ridiculed and belittled. Even if some details in that story about the cartel seem far-fetched, still, the possibility of unwittingly being used as a drug money courier is valid, and I do hope that the police will look into it thoroughly (the details are in early postings to this thread).

    The other likely scenario is detailed in six messages, October 4, 2014 and March 3, 2015, at http://dogservant.blogspot.com/2012/...n-koecher.html (information about Jason Shane Blevins and Barbara Burch).

    On this WS thread, fasteddy8170 was wrong when he posted on 12-11-2014, "Not to throw a tub full of cold water on the Jason Shane Blevins angle but several things need to be pointed out:
    1. The person who wrote the response didn't even spell Steven's last name correctly. He/she spelled the other names correctly, but not Steven's, despite his full name being in the title of the post."

    Please note that the "Anonymous" poster (whom I'll call AP) said that Jason Shane Blevins and Barbara Burch, whom AP found out later were con artists, stayed for two weeks in the house in the Sun City Anthem neighborhood at AP's invitation, and that AP stayed there with them and they all would sometimes drink. It was AP's mother's house, but she was out of town. By the end of the two weeks, AP said that Jason & Barbara often joked about their "friend" "Steven Kosher", saying that it's too bad that he disappeared and he's not there to help them out anymore, he really helped them out tremendously but then he "disappeared". Then they'd laugh as if it were some inside joke. AP explains that the reason he/she spelled the name as "Kosher" is because he/she was quoting the way Jason & Barbara pronounced it, and AP wasn't at all sure that they were referring to Steven Koecher at all. So AP didn't misspell the name.

    fasteddy8170 says:
    "2. After a look-see at ussearch.com and a couple other sites, there's no record of Jason Shane Blevins ever living in Utah. That would be the only way he would know Steven since Steven never lived anywhere else but in Utah. Yes, there is one Barbara Burch in Utah but that isn't an uncommon name. So, I'm not sure how they would be able to call Steven a good friend."

    Actually AP never claimed that Jason & Barbara lived in Utah or had any connection to Utah at all. Fasteddy8170 apparently missed the "inside joke" that AP says Jason & Barbara were making. Of course "Steven Kosher" wasn't their "good friend" or even a friend at all, they were making a cruel joke by calling him that, making fun of him and of the fact that he "disappeared" after they took advantage of his naiivete in helping them (doing work for them)! They sound like despicable people.

    FastEddy8170 goes on to say:
    "3. The writer claims he/she had comps to a hotel. As someone who lived in Vegas for over 13 years, this sounds like something an out-of-towner would say who's trying to sound like an LV resident. For the record: citizens of Southern NV don't have comps just lying around for themselves or others to use. They may get some free tickets to some shows if they know someone inside the entertainment industry, but that's it. And employees of hotels don't get comps for rooms either--these days they're lucky to have an employee dining room."

    So we all know that you don't get comps just by living in Las Vegas, but if you go to casinos and gamble a lot, you do get comps, whether you live in Las Vegas or not. AP went to casinos and gambled, so he/she got free comps.

    FastEddy8170 says:
    "4. The writer says he got all sorts of info about Jason and Barbara over those two weeks, even ex-girlfriends? I mean, really? So, on one hand the writer admits the two are con artists but on the other hand the writer believes they gave him accurate info?
    I could go on but I think the whole thing smells of some troll. Furthermore, that the writer hasn't appeared on that blog again since 2012 tells you all you need to know."

    Not true. None of AP's writings were in 2012. One was on Oct. 4, 2014, and five were on March 3, 2015. And not true that it smells of some troll. Lots of people surf the net and don't revisit sites they happen across and post to. And staying in the house with them for two weeks, and drinking together, they were bound to mention to AP some names and personal details here and there....they wouldn't have any reason to make up fake names of ex-girlfriends, even if they were con artists. And I was under the impression from what AP said, that he/she looked into their wallets or cell phones when the two weren't aware, and copied down the driver's license info. & etc. "in case they turned out to be shady." And many of the facts about them AP found out later, from their arrest records online, not necessarily from info. that the two said. AP was mainly focused on the fact that they stole all the stuff out of the mother's house after AP told them to leave. No wild allegations. It really was true that they were con men and that they had been arrested many times, as he/she found out later, and that they stole stuff from AP's mother's house.

    Another person on there said PLEASE report this to the Henderson Police, but AP seems to ignore that. And AP says on his/her second post, "not the same Jason Blevins", but I think it IS the same guy. And AP says that the two were joking about a Steven Kosher instead of Steven Koecher, so "it might mean nothing". Therefore AP was minimizing the possible connection to Steven Koecher....quite the opposite of making wild allegations. And AP said he/she had already given all the information to the police, but he/she meant the personal details about the two and what they stole from the mother's house was given to the police, not necessarily any possible connection to the disappearance of Steven Koecher. AP did have a job so apparently he/she wasn't home a lot of the time that Jason & Barbara were staying at the house. It's not clear whether J&B met "Steven Kosher" during the time they were staying at the mother's house, or just previous, but it seems important to find out exactly when J&B stayed at that house, and whether that house is near the cul-de-sac. Did AP work on Saturdays? Steven might have come to that house on Saturday 12/12/09, to do some kind of errands or deliveries for them in his car. J&P had use of the computer at AP's mother's house.....I wonder if that computer could be checked, to see if the two had posted ads on Craigslist? AP says his/her mother still lives in Sun City Anthem. Could someone please give this information to the Henderson police? They should have all of the information already in their files somewhere, details about the two con artists and the incident of stuff being stolen out of the mother's house, so they could easily check whether or not that robbery occurred during December 2009, and they should have the address of the house in their files somewhere, in association with this con artist case but not necessarily being aware of the possible link to Steven Koecher's disappearance.
    I agree with this -that the angle/info presented in those blog posts re: Jason Blevins and Barbara Burch was treated so dismissively here. This is exactly the kind of thing I can see happening: Someone recalls an earlier incident/conversation that relates to SK's disappearance, even if they didn't realize or make any connection at the time. The criminal history of the two is alarming, and the placement of them in the same neighborhood as SK during the same time period is a huge red flag, in my book. This kind of a scenario is so much more plausible than suicide. Incidentally, one concept that has come up consistently here at WS regarding SK, by various posters, is the SK was the type of person who could likely be taken in by just those type of people. Even if they weren't folks SK would normally spend time around, the fact that he was desperate for money would make him more likely to enter a stranger's home; do business with a couple who seemed a little low-brow, etc. The "Kosher" vs. "Koecher" makes it even more believable to me. At any rate, the scenario as told on the blog by the anonymous poster seems highly believable to me. I hope LE checks it out, to the degree they are able, considering anonymous blog posts may be difficult to track down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyBenton View Post
    Question: So the search teams were just searching the area around Sun City Anthem because they think he may have gone up there and committed suicide. So how are they explaining his cell phone pings the next morning in the Whitney Ranch area, which is 11 miles from his last known location? Someone had his phone and was in the Whitney Ranch area on the morning of 12/14, who was it and why did they have possession of Steven’s phone if he had committed suicide? Doesn’t make any sense. I don’t think this is a case of suicide. I’ve watched the video of him walking a million times, he had a destination and was carrying some type of folder with him, he wasn’t going to wander off in the desert.
    The only things that could point to suicide seems to me to be the fact that he'd been down recently -having financial trouble and an argument with his father. However, I've always wondered this: How many people commit suicide in a way that their bodies are hidden? I suppose there are some where the body is never found, but is there evidence of suicides who attempt to do so in a way that they won't ever be found? Is this common? Most of the ones I've been familiar with go out in the garage and hang themselves or go out in the garage, leave the door closed, and turn on the car. Why would someone drive out to a seniors development, park and then walk into the dessert? And what did he do? Hurl himself off of a cliff? Commit suicide with a folder? Whatever he was carrying, it wasn't a rope. A pocket knife?

    I guess I find it very frustrating to hear of a search which seems to be oriented toward suicide, without any indication as to why. (If that is the theory prompting the new searches.) Don't know, but it sure seems like foul play at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanders View Post
    Hi, I visit this site occasionally and pray for the missing to be found, and I do want to help if I can. I hope Steven will be found soon, my heart aches for his family.

    I'm from SLC Utah and have been to St. George & Vegas many times. Don't know if anyone has pointed this out, but Las Vegas & Henderson are only about 120 miles from St. George Utah, so Steven could have easily gone down & back for an odd job or two in the days BEFORE he went missing (250-270 miles round trip is not considered a long trip in the western states). He was broke but if he thought he had found a way to make some good money fast, he would undoubtedly have felt it worth driving to Vegas for. His car had about 400 miles range on a full tank of gas. When he bought gas in Mesquite NV on Saturday 12/12 at 5:04 p.m Utah time, he had probably been to Vegas & back that day, because people from St. George usually don't go to Mesquite except as a gas stop to or from Las Vegas. He was back in St. George from at least 7:58pm until 10:30pm Saturday night, then left again (to return to Vegas?). See timeline at http://img.ksl.com/slc/2507/250736/25073699.pdf

    I'm sure Steven had been to Vegas plenty of times in his 30 years (don't know why one recent poster on here states that Steven had "never been to Vegas before".....I'm sure he'd been there several times, as I and most other Utahns have). Isn't Henderson almost a suburb of Las Vegas? Many Mormons live in Las Vegas & Henderson, so lots of Mormons visit Vegas, not for gambling, but for other things, and of course Utahns driving to California on I-15 pass through Vegas all the time. And there are surely many more work opportunities in the Vegas area than in St. George. When Steven parked his car on that cul-de-sac, I believe he was walking to a certain house or to be picked up by someone in a car, and probably knew exactly where he was going because probably he had been there the day before and IMHO was going back to get paid for his work. He probably wouldn't have missed church unless there was a good reason. He was apparently desperate for money. What if the people paid him a little on Saturday, enough to cover the gas, and told him they couldn't pay the rest until the next day? Possibly there was more work to finish up, and they promised to pay him after it was all done. I definitely do NOT feel that Steven committed suicide, because of the phone pings in different locations after he walked away from his car, and because of his purposeful stride, and other things. I don't believe either that he intended to disappear and start a new life. Whether he was gay or not isn't really relevant so shouldn't be brought into this at all.

    The most likely scenario is that he found what he thought was going to be lucrative short-term work or tasks or deliveries, to earn quick cash to pay his overdue bills and get money for Christmas. Perhaps it was from a craigslist ad that he found using the library computer (since nothing was found on his personal computer). Work such as passing out flyers at various apartment complexes where he was driven to with a group, or helping someone move furniture or other stuff, putting up Christmas decorations, or being a courier (he may even have been delivering drug money without knowing that's what was in the packages, or delivering stolen goods that he didn't know were stolen). Or perhaps he was doing something for his landlord. Please don't be so quick to dismiss any of these possiblities. I think he was duped. Perhaps, when it came time that afternoon to pay him, the unsavory character(s) murdered him instead, then drove somewhere and buried his body in the desert, and threw his cell phone out the window. I hate to say it, but he's probably not alive.

    I was very sad to see that the two most likely (IMO) theories for Steven's disappearance suggested on this forum were ignored and/or the people who made those suggestions were slammed as being trolls or worse. One posting said that Steven may have been used as a drug money courier without his knowledge. That sounds like a very, very likely scenario to me, yet the writer was ridiculed and belittled. Even if some details in that story about the cartel seem far-fetched, still, the possibility of unwittingly being used as a drug money courier is valid, and I do hope that the police will look into it thoroughly (the details are in early postings to this thread).

    The other likely scenario is detailed in six messages, October 4, 2014 and March 3, 2015, at http://dogservant.blogspot.com/2012/...n-koecher.html (information about Jason Shane Blevins and Barbara Burch).

    On this WS thread, fasteddy8170 was wrong when he posted on 12-11-2014, "Not to throw a tub full of cold water on the Jason Shane Blevins angle but several things need to be pointed out:
    1. The person who wrote the response didn't even spell Steven's last name correctly. He/she spelled the other names correctly, but not Steven's, despite his full name being in the title of the post."

    Please note that the "Anonymous" poster (whom I'll call AP) said that Jason Shane Blevins and Barbara Burch, whom AP found out later were con artists, stayed for two weeks in the house in the Sun City Anthem neighborhood at AP's invitation, and that AP stayed there with them and they all would sometimes drink. It was AP's mother's house, but she was out of town. By the end of the two weeks, AP said that Jason & Barbara often joked about their "friend" "Steven Kosher", saying that it's too bad that he disappeared and he's not there to help them out anymore, he really helped them out tremendously but then he "disappeared". Then they'd laugh as if it were some inside joke. AP explains that the reason he/she spelled the name as "Kosher" is because he/she was quoting the way Jason & Barbara pronounced it, and AP wasn't at all sure that they were referring to Steven Koecher at all. So AP didn't misspell the name.

    fasteddy8170 says:
    "2. After a look-see at ussearch.com and a couple other sites, there's no record of Jason Shane Blevins ever living in Utah. That would be the only way he would know Steven since Steven never lived anywhere else but in Utah. Yes, there is one Barbara Burch in Utah but that isn't an uncommon name. So, I'm not sure how they would be able to call Steven a good friend."

    Actually AP never claimed that Jason & Barbara lived in Utah or had any connection to Utah at all. Fasteddy8170 apparently missed the "inside joke" that AP says Jason & Barbara were making. Of course "Steven Kosher" wasn't their "good friend" or even a friend at all, they were making a cruel joke by calling him that, making fun of him and of the fact that he "disappeared" after they took advantage of his naiivete in helping them (doing work for them)! They sound like despicable people.

    FastEddy8170 goes on to say:
    "3. The writer claims he/she had comps to a hotel. As someone who lived in Vegas for over 13 years, this sounds like something an out-of-towner would say who's trying to sound like an LV resident. For the record: citizens of Southern NV don't have comps just lying around for themselves or others to use. They may get some free tickets to some shows if they know someone inside the entertainment industry, but that's it. And employees of hotels don't get comps for rooms either--these days they're lucky to have an employee dining room."

    So we all know that you don't get comps just by living in Las Vegas, but if you go to casinos and gamble a lot, you do get comps, whether you live in Las Vegas or not. AP went to casinos and gambled, so he/she got free comps.

    FastEddy8170 says:
    "4. The writer says he got all sorts of info about Jason and Barbara over those two weeks, even ex-girlfriends? I mean, really? So, on one hand the writer admits the two are con artists but on the other hand the writer believes they gave him accurate info?
    I could go on but I think the whole thing smells of some troll. Furthermore, that the writer hasn't appeared on that blog again since 2012 tells you all you need to know."

    Not true. None of AP's writings were in 2012. One was on Oct. 4, 2014, and five were on March 3, 2015. And not true that it smells of some troll. Lots of people surf the net and don't revisit sites they happen across and post to. And staying in the house with them for two weeks, and drinking together, they were bound to mention to AP some names and personal details here and there....they wouldn't have any reason to make up fake names of ex-girlfriends, even if they were con artists. And I was under the impression from what AP said, that he/she looked into their wallets or cell phones when the two weren't aware, and copied down the driver's license info. & etc. "in case they turned out to be shady." And many of the facts about them AP found out later, from their arrest records online, not necessarily from info. that the two said. AP was mainly focused on the fact that they stole all the stuff out of the mother's house after AP told them to leave. No wild allegations. It really was true that they were con men and that they had been arrested many times, as he/she found out later, and that they stole stuff from AP's mother's house.

    Another person on there said PLEASE report this to the Henderson Police, but AP seems to ignore that. And AP says on his/her second post, "not the same Jason Blevins", but I think it IS the same guy. And AP says that the two were joking about a Steven Kosher instead of Steven Koecher, so "it might mean nothing". Therefore AP was minimizing the possible connection to Steven Koecher....quite the opposite of making wild allegations. And AP said he/she had already given all the information to the police, but he/she meant the personal details about the two and what they stole from the mother's house was given to the police, not necessarily any possible connection to the disappearance of Steven Koecher. AP did have a job so apparently he/she wasn't home a lot of the time that Jason & Barbara were staying at the house. It's not clear whether J&B met "Steven Kosher" during the time they were staying at the mother's house, or just previous, but it seems important to find out exactly when J&B stayed at that house, and whether that house is near the cul-de-sac. Did AP work on Saturdays? Steven might have come to that house on Saturday 12/12/09, to do some kind of errands or deliveries for them in his car. J&P had use of the computer at AP's mother's house.....I wonder if that computer could be checked, to see if the two had posted ads on Craigslist? AP says his/her mother still lives in Sun City Anthem. Could someone please give this information to the Henderson police? They should have all of the information already in their files somewhere, details about the two con artists and the incident of stuff being stolen out of the mother's house, so they could easily check whether or not that robbery occurred during December 2009, and they should have the address of the house in their files somewhere, in association with this con artist case but not necessarily being aware of the possible link to Steven Koecher's disappearance.
    Very interesting - I somehow missed the http://dogservant.blogspot.com/2012/...n-koecher.html when it was originally posted. I don't find it totally unbelievable that Steven may have gotten mixed up with this lovely couple. For me, the most unbelievable part of this guy's story is that he would invite two complete strangers he met at a seedy casino into his mother's home for two weeks. If that is actually true, he should be on his knees giving thanks he did not meet the same fate as Steven.

    The drug money courier theory definitely has some merit - particularly when looking at Steven's travel patterns in the weeks leading up to his disappearance. A drug cartel house in the middle of Sun City Anthem, however, does not make sense, IMO. I have been to the neighborhood where Steven's car was found and I would bet my last dollar that the slightest hint of shady activity in that neighborhood would immediately attract the attention of most, if not all, of the residents.

    I would be interested to know if anyone ever contacted LE with this Blevins/Burch information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy1 View Post
    Very interesting - I somehow missed the http://dogservant.blogspot.com/2012/...n-koecher.html when it was originally posted. I don't find it totally unbelievable that Steven may have gotten mixed up with this lovely couple. For me, the most unbelievable part of this guy's story is that he would invite two complete strangers he met at a seedy casino into his mother's home for two weeks. If that is actually true, he should be on his knees giving thanks he did not meet the same fate as Steven.

    The drug money courier theory definitely has some merit - particularly when looking at Steven's travel patterns in the weeks leading up to his disappearance. A drug cartel house in the middle of Sun City Anthem, however, does not make sense, IMO. I have been to the neighborhood where Steven's car was found and I would bet my last dollar that the slightest hint of shady activity in that neighborhood would immediately attract the attention of most, if not all, of the residents.

    I would be interested to know if anyone ever contacted LE with this Blevins/Burch information.
    Fairy, I don't find it unbelievable at all. Happens all the time. I wouldn't do it. You wouldn't do it. Millions of people would. Sometimes it's hard to see life outside of our own experience, but over the years, I've rubbed shoulder with lots and lots of people who would do this without a second thought. I tend not to rub those shoulders anymore, thankfully!

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    Has there been any information on whether said couple was in the Vegas/Anthem area the day of his disappearance?

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    I have only seen his story on "Disappeared" several times and certainly have not read all the posts on these #22 threads. For some reason, I always thought he was a younger man having trouble finding financial footing in the 2007-2009 economic bust. But at thirty, he could have had an AD or BA degree in the early 2000's and had a few years to hold down a decent job, etc., prior to the downturn. What was he doing between say 2003-2008? Had he always struggled in settling into jobs or school? Was this difficulty something that came later? He had time, presumably, to date and get married if he desired. What was really going on with this young man before the economic downturn? I am not trying to put him down or say anything negative about him, his family, or any friends or lifestyle. Everyone is different. I am just wondering what he was struggling with before jobs became scarce. A difference in family or religious thought? A different lifestyle that might cut him off from his beloved family? Mental problems, high-functioning autism that can be overlooked, especially when he was young? The possibilities are endless. It seems he ought to be "find-able" whatever his current circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fridaybaker View Post
    Fairy, I don't find it unbelievable at all. Happens all the time. I wouldn't do it. You wouldn't do it. Millions of people would. Sometimes it's hard to see life outside of our own experience, but over the years, I've rubbed shoulder with lots and lots of people who would do this without a second thought. I tend not to rub those shoulders anymore, thankfully!
    I suppose that's true. Stupid thing to do. Why would they have waited until he told them to leave before stealing everything? They could have done that any time. IDK - the story is odd in many ways.

    With regard to the idea of Steven working as a courier, I've always wondered, if that was the case, why he still couldn't pay his rent for over 3 months. I assume there's some type of compensation for that kind of work. Where was the $$$?


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    Quote Originally Posted by wendybtn View Post
    I have only seen his story on "Disappeared" several times and certainly have not read all the posts on these #22 threads. For some reason, I always thought he was a younger man having trouble finding financial footing in the 2007-2009 economic bust. But at thirty, he could have had an AD or BA degree in the early 2000's and had a few years to hold down a decent job, etc., prior to the downturn. What was he doing between say 2003-2008? Had he always struggled in settling into jobs or school? Was this difficulty something that came later? He had time, presumably, to date and get married if he desired. What was really going on with this young man before the economic downturn? I am not trying to put him down or say anything negative about him, his family, or any friends or lifestyle. Everyone is different. I am just wondering what he was struggling with before jobs became scarce. A difference in family or religious thought? A different lifestyle that might cut him off from his beloved family? Mental problems, high-functioning autism that can be overlooked, especially when he was young? The possibilities are endless. It seems he ought to be "find-able" whatever his current circumstances.
    Wendybtn, I have followed this story off and on for years, but I should really go back and start reading again, because I realize I've forgotten so much. With that in mind, though, I think I can safely say this: SK would have had two years for his mission. I believe, but can't remember for sure, that he had some college -I'll go back and look. However, you point is well taken: Why was SK struggling so? He was a good looking man, from a stable family, who had completed a mission, which is a very positive thing in the LDS church -Those men are usually quite sought-after as husbands. Also, he did a foreign mission, which is always thought to go to the best and brightest. Okay, so we say that he wasn't married because he wasn't in a position financially to. Why? This has always bothered me: He complained to friends/family that his job in SLC kept him from having any time with friends and family (he worked evenings or weekends) but then he quits it and moves to St. George, which is a much smaller job market, and puts him AWAY from friends and family. Apparently, he knew few people there.

    Also, your comment about "high-functioning autism" is an interesting one, and if you do some reading of old threads, you'll find that that concept was bandied about quite a bit here. His family did say that SK had a "quirk" (my term -from memory) that made him different: At times in a conversation with someone, he'd pause for an exceptionally long time, before picking back up with the conversation.

    With regard to his family, he did have an argument with his father in the week before he disappeared and was, apparently, feeling pressure from his family to provide better for himself -they'd recently lent him money/paid his rent or something. I can say this: Sometimes it can be very difficult to find a job, even when one is qualified; however, at his age, one would think he'd have a bit of a nest egg to withstand some time between jobs. I find that odd, anyway.

    I'm not sure if any of that helped. Also, anyone please feel free to correct my statements -I'm going from memory for the most part.

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    I wonder if the author is a hard drinker/drug user. It’s not uncommon for those types to meet others out partying and invite them back to their homes to continue the party once the bars are closed. Smart idea? No, but one usually isn’t making the decisions when intoxicated.

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    I read the comment from the blog. I find that the scenario laid out to be plausible. It's possible Steven helped out some con artists and that led to his demise. What if he had to prove his reliability for a period of time before getting paid? And what if when he showed up in Sun City to get paid he was killed so the con artists wouldn't have to pay.
    Maybe it was the couple mentioned in the post or maybe it was someone else. Someone whose phone number was normal to have in his phone like his landlord, roommate etc. I would think LE investigated Steven's phone records thoroughly but who knows. I just don't buy into suicide on this one.

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    I agree. The long drives right before he disappeared could mean that he worked for someone (potentially this couple) and when it was time to get paid someone got rid of him. Would explain why they said he helped him so much (if this statement in the blog is actually true)

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    I was poking around the internet searching the name Jason Shane Blevins and came across the page below detailing his theft charges. Nothing out of the ordinary EXCEPT that I saw that he was stealing the pay off a gambling dept. Now this happened in Texas and isn’t directly related to Steven’s disappearance BUT it does prove that he is a gambler and is a shady person, both fit with the poster’s story. https://casinowatch.wordpress.com/2011/11/09/

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