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  1. #1
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    NJ - Gloucester Co., BlkMale UP#1627, 24-34, floating in creek, Jan'90

    UP#1627

    DEMOGRAPHICS
    Age: 24 - 34 years old
    Race: African-American
    Sex: Male
    Height: 71 inches (5'11)
    Weight: 170 inches
    Body conditions: Not recognisable - Decomposition/putrefaction
    Postmortem interval: 1989 - 1990

    CIRCUMSTANCES
    Found floating in a creek in Gloucester County, NJ

    PHYSICAL
    Hair color: Black
    Eye color: Brown

    CLOTHING AND ACCESSORIES
    Clothing: Maroon overcoat, black jacket, orange muscle t-shirt
    Shoes: Running shoes

    IDENTIFIERS
    Fingerprints: Available and entered
    Dentals: Available and entered
    DNA: Sample currently not available

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    This man was added to NamUs about a week and a half ago.

    Ernest Edmonds

    Age (36) is within 2 years of the 24 - 34 age range
    Race (African-American) matches
    UID's height is right in the middle of Edmonds' age range (5'9 - 6'1)
    Hair color (black) matches
    Eye color (brown) matches
    Clothing somewhat matches; like the UID, Edmonds had on a rust wool overcoat and running shoes
    Timing (one month between date of disappearance and the date the body was recovered) is consistent
    Distance (21.4 miles between Philly and Gloucester County) checks out
    Circumstances seem to line up

    The only big inconsistency is that Edmonds is listed as being 140 pounds, while the UID weighed 170. But it's a 25-year-old case, so who knows if those numbers are accurate.

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    I contacted the Gloucester County ME's Office. The lady on the other line said that they only keep files on hand if they're less than 10 years old, so the UID's case is archived and it may take some time for her to locate the file. But she'll forward the info to the man in the NJ State Police who handles UID cases and he'll contact me if he has any questions.

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    Good eye as usual
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    No obvious updates -- there's no ruleouts list on his Namus page, but it's been updated a couple of times recently.

    Edmonds has DNA but no fingerprints or dentals. The deceased has dentals and fingerprints but no DNA. They probably can't make it a ruleout or match.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    I found this.. Is this the same UID? Height and age seem off but everything else seems like its the same UID?

    http://www.njsp.org/unidentified/glo...05702826.shtml

    http://www.njsp.org/unidentified/gloucester/index.shtml


    Unidentified Deceased Black Male
    Case Information
    The victim was found in Mantua Creek, West Deptford Township, New Jersey. He has a slender build, wide shoulders and narrow waist. He also has bunions on his toes, fallen arches and an out step. Victim has badly chewed-down teeth and had chronic lung disease.

    NIC #
    CASE #
    U405702826
    MCU900031and H02590-13
    Date Body Found
    Estimated Date of Death
    January 30, 1990
    November / December 1989




    Biological Profile
    Age
    35 - 45 years
    Sex
    Male
    Race
    Black
    Height
    6'2" - 6'3"
    Weight
    155 - 165 lbs.
    Hair
    Black
    Eyes
    Brown

    CLOTHING
    Maroon 3/4-length wool overcoat, black suede waist-length "Blazers by Ampus" brand jacket-size 38L, sleeveless V-neck red sweater, low-cut black and gray "Trax" brand running shoes, size 10. The victim had a pack of Kool Super Long cigarettes in his coat.
    JEWELRY
    *
    MISC.
    Close full beard and mustache.
    Fingerprints and dental available for comparison


    u405702826comp_l[1].jpg

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    Hm, I think that has to be the same person despite the discrepancies. Deptford Township is in Gloucester County, so that fits, and the date found matches.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    http://www.nampn.org/cases/johnson_donald.html

    Above Images: Johnson


    Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance

    Missing Since: November 18, 1989 from Nashville, Davidson County, Tennessee
    Classification: Missing
    Date Of Birth: August 29, 1969
    Age: 20
    Height: 5'10"
    Weight: 190 lbs.
    Hair Color: Black
    Eye Color: Brown
    Race: Black
    Gender: Male
    Case Number: 89-301255


    Details of Disappearance
    Donald Johnson was last seen at Boyd Hall, Tennessee State University on November 18, 1989. Donald disappeared without a trace and has not made family contact.

    johnson_donald[1].jpgu405702826comp_l[1].jpgjohnson_donald1[1].jpg

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    Johnson certainly looks possible.
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  10. #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    Johnson certainly looks possible.
    The eyes, the space between their outer edges, his chin and jaw seem less similar?
    my opinions only




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