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    Quote Originally Posted by wendybtn View Post
    The copy I downloaded from your link is of such poor quality on the findings and lab results, I could not tell how much ethanol per quantity of urine, blood or anything else. All I know is she drank that day, got in a car with multiple children and all but one person in the car died. No mystery here.
    I disagree that there is no mystery. This woman had never appeared in public completely drunk. Something caused her to behave irrationally and abnormally. By all accounts she was a good mother who loved her children. I have read that she did have a script for ambien. Ambien would make you do things in a dreamlike state especially including drinking alcohol and eating. Alcohol just exacerbates the ambien. My question is did the tox screen check for the metabolites of ambien. Until that is answered I don't believe it can be ruled out. I am amazed how many people on this thread are so ready to crucify this woman based on one horrible event that was totally uncharacteristic of her by all accounts

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    Quote Originally Posted by wendybtn View Post
    The copy I downloaded from your link is of such poor quality on the findings and lab results, I could not tell how much ethanol per quantity of urine, blood or anything else. All I know is she drank that day, got in a car with multiple children and all but one person in the car died. No mystery here.
    Sorry to hear that, my copy is very clear. Would you like for me to transcribe it for you?

    It tested her blood, brain, urine, vitreous humor and gastric contents for various substances. Ethanol (alcohol) was found in all with a reading of 0.19 g/100ml in her blood. In urine it was 0.25, vitreous humor 0.23, brain 0.17 and her gastric contents showed 6 g per 350 ml of undigested alcohol.

    THC (marijuana), THC-COOH and 11-OH-THC (last two are THC metabolites) were also found in her blood and urine. The THC content, 5.6 ng/ML were high enough to indicate she had used marijuana within 15 minutes of the accident.

    Testing was done using gas chromatography. I'm not a scientist, so here's a link that explains how it works:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_chromatography

    Hope this helps!
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    Like so many other people in the US, this case just amazed and astounded me. I wondered about what the husband said, declaring that she never drank, then I realized that maybe he truly did NOT know how much she drank.

    For this entire time I keep going back to her trying to buy the Advil or Tylenol. In reading that my guess at the time was many people thought she was having a major headache and then they lept to the idea that she may have been having a stroke.

    But after I have thought about this, I've always wondered if she didn't have one or two drinks to begin with and then suffered a diabetic reaction of hypoglycemia due to the alcohol.

    As her blood glucose plummeted she had a two fold effect, she was having a major headache due to the low glucose, she became mentally impaired due to both the low glucose and the alcohol and this easily could have lead her to drink more than she ever intended or realized. The more she drank the further her blood sugar went down.

    I see the results of the blood screens for alcohol and marijuana but I don't see a blood glucose so far. I will go look now.

    Either way, by all accounts this was truly a tragic accident and I highly, highly doubt she did this on purpose.

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    For those of you with a weak stomach, I would not read the autopsy report. It's terrible.

    Perhaps there is more to that report? Or is it likely that her blood glucose was not checked? I would think that would be standard.

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    Am thinking of the doc and the autopsy and labs that were done-----I think that once the presence of so much alcohol and pot were found perhaps it was then determined that those substances caused Diane to have the accident and nothing further was pursued........and yes---read the autopsy--took it in small doses!!!!
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    Not picking on you IB, but what I find most terrible, is that there were 7 more deaths/autopsies because of DS's actions. There is no doubt all of them were innocent victims. If the injuries to her body are upsetting, imagine what happened to the children. I don't give anyone a pass for driving with any type impairment. Have a driver or stay home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBsleuthin View Post
    Like so many other people in the US, this case just amazed and astounded me. I wondered about what the husband said, declaring that she never drank, then I realized that maybe he truly did NOT know how much she drank.

    For this entire time I keep going back to her trying to buy the Advil or Tylenol. In reading that my guess at the time was many people thought she was having a major headache and then they lept to the idea that she may have been having a stroke.

    But after I have thought about this, I've always wondered if she didn't have one or two drinks to begin with and then suffered a diabetic reaction of hypoglycemia due to the alcohol.

    As her blood glucose plummeted she had a two fold effect, she was having a major headache due to the low glucose, she became mentally impaired due to both the low glucose and the alcohol and this easily could have lead her to drink more than she ever intended or realized. The more she drank the further her blood sugar went down.

    I see the results of the blood screens for alcohol and marijuana but I don't see a blood glucose so far. I will go look now.

    Either way, by all accounts this was truly a tragic accident and I highly, highly doubt she did this on purpose.
    The last page of autopsy report had glu 4 mg/dL. Is that her blood sugar level and is it low?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sxvet View Post
    I disagree that there is no mystery. This woman had never appeared in public completely drunk. Something caused her to behave irrationally and abnormally. By all accounts she was a good mother who loved her children. I have read that she did have a script for ambien. Ambien would make you do things in a dreamlike state especially including drinking alcohol and eating. Alcohol just exacerbates the ambien. My question is did the tox screen check for the metabolites of ambien. Until that is answered I don't believe it can be ruled out. I am amazed how many people on this thread are so ready to crucify this woman based on one horrible event that was totally uncharacteristic of her by all accounts
    I have old scripts in my bedside table for different medications, but I'm not taking anything presently. Why hasn't DS's husband/SIL ask for this test which would remove all doubt if she took ambien or not? Because it wasn't in her system, and it's better to give vague stories about a script for ambien like it's fact and that she actually took it. Why can't we see this script if it exists or the medication pkt itself. This is just too simple.

    BTW, who drives around with a bottle of Absolut Vodka in their car? I had a friend who had cask wine in her car, she was an alcoholic who I never witnessed to be drunk, she didn't slur her speech or stagger, no signs whatsoever that she drank. She had built up a high tolerance for alcohol over many years, and I suspect so did DS.

    How do we know that this was the only time she drove drunk and high, we don't. I'm amazed you're making excuses for this woman. She didn't make a wrong turn or the tires blew or any other kind of miscalculation.
    She chose to smoke marijuana and drink hard liquor. She chose to drive her vehicle onto the road. DS made those decisions which cost the lives of innocent people who had no choice in the matter. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamima View Post
    The last page of autopsy report had glu 4 mg/dL. Is that her blood sugar level and is it low?
    WOW! Thank you for finding that. I'm going to look at the autopsy. I'm wondering if it's a typo and suppose to read mmol/L. An actual 4mg/dL blood draw would cause coma and death. It is incompatible with sustaining life to be sure. THANK YOU for finding that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeSuspect View Post
    I have old scripts in my bedside table for different medications, but I'm not taking anything presently. Why hasn't DS's husband/SIL ask for this test which would remove all doubt if she took ambien or not? Because it wasn't in her system, and it's better to give vague stories about a script for ambien like it's fact and that she actually took it. Why can't we see this script if it exists or the medication pkt itself. This is just too simple.

    BTW, who drives around with a bottle of Absolut Vodka in their car? I had a friend who had cask wine in her car, she was an alcoholic who I never witnessed to be drunk, she didn't slur her speech or stagger, no signs whatsoever that she drank. She had built up a high tolerance for alcohol over many years, and I suspect so did DS.

    How do we know that this was the only time she drove drunk and high, we don't. I'm amazed you're making excuses for this woman. She didn't make a wrong turn or the tires blew or any other kind of miscalculation.
    She chose to smoke marijuana and drink hard liquor. She chose to drive her vehicle onto the road. DS made those decisions which cost the lives of innocent people who had no choice in the matter. JMO
    (BBM) and that is exactly what bothers me so much about this. Fine if you want to drink yourself to death but these other people were completely innocent in this tragedy. Excellent point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by noZme View Post
    Not picking on you IB, but what I find most terrible, is that there were 7 more deaths/autopsies because of DS's actions. There is no doubt all of them were innocent victims. If the injuries to her body are upsetting, imagine what happened to the children. I don't give anyone a pass for driving with any type impairment. Have a driver or stay home.
    (BBM) Oh I'm right there with you!! I thought about that as I was reading her autopsy. This is just horrific. A friend of mine and I were just talking about addiction and addicts. We both reflected on the fact that most of the addicts we have contact with in our lives are highly self centered. To me this is another case of exactly that. She chose to drink and smoke marijuana as a selfish choice with no regard to the other people. Very sad.

    (P.S. I did not think you were making fun and I LOVE your signature line)

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    This has really caught my attention, not in the defense of DS but just in understanding the post mortem blood chemistry better.

    I found this link, (thank goodness for Google) http://www.forensicmed.co.uk/science...-biochemistry/

    There is a conversion: Millimoles per litre (mmol/L) of glucose to milligrams per decilitre (mg/dL) = times x 18. Going on the notion that the autopsy contains a typo and that the 4 mg/dl should actually be mmol/L, I took 4 x's 18 = 72. Now, a 72 mg/dl blood sugar is classified as hypoglycemia and I'm sure there are plenty of diabetics on this forum that can jump in this conversation to help understand the symptoms, but a 72 isn't THAT low to explain any real bothersome, life altering symptoms.

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    70 - 110 is typically considered normal glucose levels. If that is correct, it's highly unlikely a 72 would have contributed to the crash.

    I wonder if anyone ever clarified that with the ME.

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    You guys are so awesome------love how techie-sleuth this is going!!!!
    IIRC-----as per Danny the vodka bottle was a "travelling bottle" (my words for it)---Diane was very frugal and bought a large bottle that was used at their home and taken on weekends.....Danny claims they drank pina coladas-----which as we all know are made with rum and not vodka---they also are sweet drinks and a diabetic would not likely be drinking one at all----and since I have my bartender hat on--its a blender drink--was there a blender in the camper?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by hot cawfee View Post
    You guys are so awesome------love how techie-sleuth this is going!!!!
    IIRC-----as per Danny the vodka bottle was a "travelling bottle" (my words for it)---Diane was very frugal and bought a large bottle that was used at their home and taken on weekends.....Danny claims they drank pina coladas-----which as we all know are made with rum and not vodka---they also are sweet drinks and a diabetic would not likely be drinking one at all----and since I have my bartender hat on--its a blender drink--was there a blender in the camper?????
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