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  1. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by MaLou View Post
    Thanks for taking the time to create this. Reading it, I'm surprised to see that it seems as if they semi-made up at the end of the exchanges on May 26th.
    They definitely did not make up. A huge amount of the text is missing, and as I said, I'm not sure of the chronological order, since the times don't line up as is.

    I still have a last piece of the timeline to post, through May 25. Adding up all available pieces....JA was monitoring his online activity through May 25. She knew he was telling Taylor Searle that he was still in love with Lisa and trying to reach her to make amends. She knew things had not worked out with Mimi. She knew from the chats Travis was having with Regan that Travis was beginning to spread the word about her craziness, just as he threatened to do on April 7. And she knew that he had met a sexy very Mormon "cutie pie" who he seemed very interested in, and who he was flirting with via Facebook emails on May 24 and May 25.

    We know Travis caught her hacking into his FB account. In the May 26 exchange Travis confronts her about that, and tells her several times, mockingly, to go ahead and send him an email he knows is full of lies.

    The content of that email is what's most key, IMO, but it's gone. She erased both the email he sent to her, hoping to convince her to do the right thing, and the first part of the email she says she had sent him. Not sure if she sent part 2.....
    RIP, Cassini. To her tireless overseers- job well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope4More View Post
    The May 26 text is a real exchange. And the texts in which Travis is angry with JA are real. The rest? I think she had lost it by the end of 2007 (tire slashing, stalking), tried to no avail to win Travis over with sex from January through the end of February, and by early March was pretty recklessly invading and messing with his social online accounts. IMO, any complimentary online communication by Travis to her after mid-March is pretty suspect.
    It occurs to me that she manipulated him into the rage so she could feel justified in killing him. IMO she had decided on the murder a long time before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by summer4meplz View Post
    the text that jumped out to me was on 4.18 Travis text jodi that he had taken time to take care of crap for her on that day....."Ihave let you have a car, money, and a whole hell of a lot time." I don't think I remember ever hearing that....why can't Juan show how nice Travis had been to her.........on 3.18 Travis wrote in his journal that he'd lost his journal, of his time with Lisa, and ipod and a diamond ring....
    What "crap" do you think he took care of for Jodi that day?

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    A few questions..

    After Travis was murdered, who had his journals? In the house and taken by PD, the felonn, or Hughes? I Thought I read Hughes had them but how did they get them if this was a crime scene?

    Who has the journals now?

    have all the journals been released?

    Were all the journals found?

    Times don't line up on the text messages and phone calls. Are you trying to line them up with journal entries?

    Is there any other place to read the journal entries besides BK site?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope4More View Post
    As for the beginning of the text sounding like a blackmail threat....that's one possibility. I'm posting a chronological framework hoping to hear speculations about what might have happened to cause the May 26 fight and why the fight may have made her conclude she had to murder Travis.
    This might help to answer that, from her testimony she says she called him, because she didn't want to write what she was saying to him(obviously setting him up).... then went on to give her "tale" of what that entailed and a possible reason why he was so angry(ie. more pamphlets...).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&v=ck37IMmhqZ0

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    Im sorry, I am not really watching this because I just can't stand what is going on.
    But were these messages admitted in this round? Please tell me yes. It so shows who she really is and that HE knew that she was dangerous and crazy.
    Atticus Finch: “You never really understand a person . . . until you consider things from his point of view.” To Kill A Mockingbird

    All my posts are my opinion only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope4More View Post
    May 26. Note- I’ve included all the times noted for parts of the exchange. They don’t make much sense as is, or at least, they don’t help in trying to piece together the order of what was said. Maybe someone else can figure out if time zone differences are part of what is confusing. I inserted pieces where times weren’t mentioned where they most logically seemed to follow, but those were just guesses.

    4:08 JA: (text begins mid sentence) that part. I’ll tell you the other part but I need a response from you. Deal?

    7:59 TA: I sent you a response to your dire conversation that I hope you read because you need to read it. Maybe it will spark some human emotion in you something that seems to exist only when it comes to your own problems. But everyone else is just a part of your sick agenda. By the way, your pic comment to Danny Jones makes you look like a pure whore, even more to the people who know you. You should be embarrassed by it. If he knew what I knew about it, he’d spit in your face. So would everyone else. I have never in my life been so hurt by someone. But why do I even say it because you don’t care. It doesn’t serve your evilness.

    8:35 You couldn’t get off your lazy butt to read it could you. That’s the sociopath I know so well. It freakin figures.

    9:11 TA: I don’t want your apology. I want you to understand what I think of you. I want you to understand how evil I think that you are. You are the worst thing that ever happened to me.

    9:14 TA: You are a sociopath. You only cry for yourself. You have never cared (about) me and you have betrayed me more than any example I could conjour. You are sick and you have scamed me.

    9:14 JA: I don’t have an email from you. Which email did you send it to?

    9:17 JA: Hmm.. I did not get an email notice but I will check now.
    ----------------------------------------

    238 JA: Only you would say that. Anyone else would see it for what it was-a joke. I was just razzing him.

    TA: No- you were flirting with him and you know better. It’s Danny Jones. Maybe you are just on to the next dick and he’s an easy target.

    TA: So you have checked with him. What a freaking whore.

    2:42 TA: I’ve never dealt with a more solid form of evil. (you are) blatantly lying.

    2:45 TA: I do realize I hate you. Hitler had more conscious. You have caused me more pain than the death of my father. How can a heart beat in such a corrupted carcass?
    You are the lowest of the low. You are sick and evil and knowing you, I want to kill myself in punishment. You are scum. I'm so stupid. I don't even know if you are human.

    JA - I am so sorry. If anyone should it is me. You are light upon this world. I can't even compare.

    JA (tells TA she’s a bartender in a Mexican restaurant)

    TA That’s a slut’s job. Maybe you can get tips for blowjobs

    TA Yeah, you are a three hole wonder, you are good for something.

    TA: your parents must be proud of you

    JA: They're not proud of me

    TA- You never saw me of more value as a piece of **** unless I was serving some purpose to U. I am less than nothing to you.

    TA: I was a dildo with a heartbeat to U

    JA: I really did love you, but I let it get so distorted. I am so sorry. I have no excuse. None.

    TA: I loved someone that never existed, what I thought was real never existed. Finish your worthless email

    TA: Send your piece of **** lie fest so I can mock it

    TA : We already know based on all the last emails you sent and then invaded my privacy that it is ********.


    TA: I know you got into my computer and erased an email to Lisa

    TA: You stole my journals, you slashed my tires, and I know it. You can never tell the truth.

    3:14 JA: I may be a liar, whore, evil, a coward. I am most likely the most horrible person you’ve ever had the misfortune of knowing, but the one thing I am not is violent. I did not and would not and would never have slashed your tires.

    3:22 JA: You deserve so much more than the crap I’ve given you. I deserve a pile of **** for what I’ve done to my friend.

    3:24 TA: You tried to murder me from the inside out..... how could you? Why did you manipulate me into loving you? I was a good guy. Why did you have to do it to me? Why did you hate me? What was your objective, what was the point?

    JA: I don't know what you mean ruin you? I would never set out to deliberately do that to you. I loaned you $200. I always wanted you to succeed. I am so sorry for what I’ve done. Those things don’t counterbalance what I did. I’m 100% responsible for this.

    JA: There's no excuse for me to be alive

    TA: I want a real answer

    JA: There have been times I screamed so loud into the phone .I could only scream into the air-I hate you, I hate you, I hate you. I would sob until I couldn’t breathe. But I have done you more wrong.

    3:49 (page 7 of chat) JA: I get so caught up in wanting to do the right thing then when you came around…I want to do a different version of the right thing. We shouldn’t be discussing this.

    3:59 JA: The sexual part of me was an unevolved way of trying to be more loved. I knew you weren't in love with me. I knew you cared, but that it wasn't that kind of love. I convinced myself you were. It was intoxicating. You made it so good. But you weren’t just a piece of meat. I felt so, so loved. I would have been content just cuddling, but I wasn't strong enough. Again, I'm sorry for that.

    (TA: have you had sex with anyone else)

    JA: No, my sex drive is gone.

    TA: I doubt that.

    JA: The better I was, the more you wanted me and the more we got together. I was a whore for you because I was a whore for that feeling. I was a whore in general. I still am.

    4:10 Of course not. Nobody else can do that. If being a whore for you is wrong I don’t want to be right. (says TA is her kryptonite).

    4:11 JA: This is not an excuse for me to be alive (exchange between them about her breaking into his Facebook took place at this time -per BK)

    TA: You know I’ll take you back. You know if you just equal the drama with my anger I’ll take you back, and that’s why you don’t hesitate to keep ruining me.

    4:25 JA: Honestly, aside from what I wanted to say, it was me that wanted to hear your voice just once more. It's a little fix, your not the only one who is addicted.

    4:30 JA: What’s the purpose? It’s not marriage. It’s just sex. . Here I come looking like an angel, speaking sweetly, acting nicely, pleasing you in many ways.

    4:33 JA: You’re like an angel that gets snared by my evil influences. There’s really no point in my continuing to breathe.
    BBM ~ Maybe JA sent an email (BCC'd) to Mimi/Lisa/and another prospect describing a 3-way with TA and this Steve Carrell guy?

    She was trying to let them know HE whore the whore and not her. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickshawFan View Post
    I'm new to these communications of Travis'. Thanks Hope4More.

    Several items jumped out at me:
    1) All Jodi's apologies are so Domestic Violence Perpetrator 101. Do a lot of emotional damage and then make profuse and dramatic apologies combined with fake loving words, all of which invite the victim to come back with "Oh, no, you're not that bad......"

    2) May 26, 4:08 sounds like the middle of a blackmail threat.

    3) TA and JA really didn't communicate that often.... I realize phone calls weren't included, but I was surprised to see how scattered the communications are. Travis very obviously had a life that didn't include Jodi, and it had likely been in this pattern since the beginning.

    4) Although IIRC, Jodi said she was staying at Travis' house for the first week in April, it sure doesn't sound like it from the communications.
    BBM ~ Good observation! JA is the one that is victimizing TA. Maybe, ALV should revisit the "cycle of abuse".

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    Quote Originally Posted by summer4meplz View Post
    this is great....thanks for doing all that.....in reference to jodi's journal entry on 3.2.8., she says she's at T'dogg's house cleaning while he is out on his third date with Mimi, and it went very well.....she was so exhausted she accidently fell asleep and was there when Travis got home.....did she often refer to Travis as T'dogg?
    the text that jumped out to me was on 4.18 Travis text jodi that he had taken time to take care of crap for her on that day....."Ihave let you have a car, money, and a whole hell of a lot time." I don't think I remember ever hearing that....why can't Juan show how nice Travis had been to her.........on 3.18 Travis wrote in his journal that he'd lost his journal, of his time with Lisa, and ipod and a diamond ring....
    I don't think they can use TAs writings in court because it is hearsay. Too bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickshawFan View Post
    What "crap" do you think he took care of for Jodi that day?
    I think in general, just to help her move. When he says he "gave her the car", I think he means, he let her have it, and she can pay him when she has money instead of him selling it privately.

    JMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by ElleElle View Post
    BBM ~ Maybe JA sent an email (BCC'd) to Mimi/Lisa/and another prospect describing a 3-way with TA and this Steve Carrell guy?

    She was trying to let them know HE whore the whore and not her. Just a thought.
    Yes, I do think she was trying to destroy his chances of marrying anyone, Elle.

    Thanks so much for compiling everything that is available Hope, I tend to think there will be holes because some things may have been sealed due to content and what wasn't allowed in the first trial, I hope some day we'll see everything that JA didn't delete and have as full a picture as possible. I really would love those last few communications when she was on her way to Mesa but those are likely forever gone. I still don't believe he knew she was coming.

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    Hope - thanks so much for taking the time, your effort, your energy, and your passion to share this information with all of us! This was a major time commitment and you are truly appreciated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope4More View Post
    They definitely did not make up. A huge amount of the text is missing, and as I said, I'm not sure of the chronological order, since the times don't line up as is.

    I still have a last piece of the timeline to post, through May 25. Adding up all available pieces....JA was monitoring his online activity through May 25. She knew he was telling Taylor Searle that he was still in love with Lisa and trying to reach her to make amends. She knew things had not worked out with Mimi. She knew from the chats Travis was having with Regan that Travis was beginning to spread the word about her craziness, just as he threatened to do on April 7. And she knew that he had met a sexy very Mormon "cutie pie" who he seemed very interested in, and who he was flirting with via Facebook emails on May 24 and May 25.

    We know Travis caught her hacking into his FB account. In the May 26 exchange Travis confronts her about that, and tells her several times, mockingly, to go ahead and send him an email he knows is full of lies.

    The content of that email is what's most key, IMO, but it's gone. She erased both the email he sent to her, hoping to convince her to do the right thing, and the first part of the email she says she had sent him. Not sure if she sent part 2.....
    __________________________________________________ _______________
    To me, that's exactly what is happening. She sent him an email first, that upset Travis so much that he said it was full of lies. She wanted him to respond to it & he did. But according to Travis 'you couldn't get off your lazy butt to read it'. Remember that exchange? "I responded to your dire conversation." She said she didn't see his response, where did he send it" He said 'your facebook."
    We need to find & put that part in here. That was the part where he said he was giving her a time limit to produce the 'imaginary' person who is lying & saying bad things about him. But without the initial email she sent to Travis & then his response we don't have a full picture. But she was starting trouble & setting him up & he was very upset.
    One note-notice how many times ja states she shouldn't be alive.
    2nd note- Travis statement 'you murdered me from the inside out' is heartbreaking.
    Last edited by LambChop; 02-21-2015 at 01:31 PM. Reason: broken quote

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    Hope, You have done an amazing job of putting all of this together. Thank you so much for all of your work on this. It helps to get a picture

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    Please try to include a link with the journal entries or testing information. If one is not available because you are paraphrasing, please reference where you were able to find the information. And thank you Hope for suggesting this thread. It's a real eye opener. Thanks, Lambchop

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