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  1. #1
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    CO - Greeley, WhtMale 2538UMCO, 30-40, possible murder victim, Sept'93

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2538umco.html

    Unidentified Male

    · Date of Discovery: September 17, 1993
    · Location of Discovery: Greeley, Weld County, Colorado
    · Estimated Date of Death: Same day
    · State of Remains: Body not recovered
    · Cause of Death: Alleged homicide by gunshot

    Physical Description


    ** Listed information is approximate

    · Estimated Age: 30-40 years old
    · Race: White
    · Gender: Male
    · Height: Unknown
    · Weight: Unknown
    · Hair Color: Sandy, collar-length.
    · Eye Color: Unknown
    · Distinguishing Marks/Features: Spoke with an accent.
    · Dentals: Not available. He had a rotting tooth.
    · Fingerprints: Not available.
    · DNA: Not available.
    Clothing & Personal Items
    · Clothing: Unknown
    · Jewelry: Unknown
    · Additional Personal Items: Unknown

    Case History

    On September 21, 1993, the Weld County Sheriff’s Office received information about a possible homicide that occurred on September 17, 1993. The suspects were identified, but a body was never found and a victim has never been identified.
    The alleged homicide victim was picked up at The Break Pool Hall in Greeley, driven to Brantner Road and Industrial Park Way, near Evans, and shot while still seated in the vehicle.
    The vehicle is described as a 2-door sport sedan with tinted windows, dark in color, with a light colored interior. It was possibly a Saturn.

    Investigating Agency(s)


    If you have any information about this case please contact;

    · Agency Name: Weld County Sheriff's Office
    · Agency Contact Person: N/A
    · Agency Phone Number: 970-304-6464

    · Agency Case Number: Unknown
    · NCIC Case Number: N/A
    · NamUs Case Number: Not listed

    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

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    This is one of the strangest things I've seen on Doe Network. There really isn't an unidentified body OR a missing person. Just an apparent murder.

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    I'm guessing drug related & the victim was of Hispanic origin (Greely is populated by a lot of lower middle class and poverty class people of Mexican origin.)

    It could be some wild conspiracy to conceal a faked death by someone who wanted to disappear...but....it's more likely it was a gang/drug related murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bflocket View Post
    This is one of the strangest things I've seen on Doe Network. There really isn't an unidentified body OR a missing person. Just an apparent murder.
    It is pretty strange. 20+ years and nothing else has surfaced. I can't even find anything on Google about this man, aside from the county sheriff's website. DN should have actually listed this as "Attempt to locate/Identify", since it's not certain that this guy exists or that it actually happened.

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    Assuming this is real, I see two UIDs so far who could possibly be the alleged murder victim. Reposting what I wrote on Reddit:

    Hmm. Here's a UID who seems to fit the (vague) description: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/517

    - Age (25 - 32) is reasonable
    - Race (Caucasian) matches
    - Hair (sandy/light brown, collar-length) matches
    - Timing (2 months between homicide date and the body's discovery) is consistent
    - Distance from Weld County to Boulder County is only 53.4 miles

    The NamUs profile doesn't give a cause of death, but everything else seems consistent with the description of this reported murder victim.
    ETA: Will call the Weld County Sheriff's Office on Monday and see if they know about this UID. They may have access to information (like cause of death) that I don't have.
    And:

    Sorry for the triple post, but here's another UID who was found in 2000: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10379

    - Age (35 to 50) is reasonable
    - Race (Caucasian) matches
    - UID was found 3 miles east of Greeley, the city the alleged murderers met their victim at

    The NamUs profile has fairly little information. The remains were skeletal (which would be consistent with being outside for 7 years). There is no info regarding hair color, a postmortem interval, cause of death etc.

    I'll tell them about this one too and ask if they checked this UID in relation to the mysterious murder victim.

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    · Date of Discovery: September 17, 1993
    · Location of Discovery: Greeley, Weld County, Colorado
    · Estimated Date of Death: Same day
    · State of Remains: Body not recovered

    How do they know it's a homicide, if the body has not been recovered?
    · Cause of Death: Alleged homicide by gunshot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulessa View Post
    · Date of Discovery: September 17, 1993
    · Location of Discovery: Greeley, Weld County, Colorado
    · Estimated Date of Death: Same day
    · State of Remains: Body not recovered

    How do they know it's a homicide, if the body has not been recovered?
    · Cause of Death: Alleged homicide by gunshot
    This is a crazy case. It is from someone who remembered helping "somebody" murder "somebody" on that date. They never found the victim. They found no missing persons who matched the purported murder.

    But apparently they're so sure it really happened that they're putting this info out.
    Last edited by bflocket; 02-22-2015 at 03:20 PM.



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