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    WA - Samantha Noethe, 22, Kennewick, 5 March 2015

    Samantha Noethe

    Police say 22-year-old woman apparently abducted in Kennewick; husband named as suspect
    An investigation is underway in Kennewick after an abduction that occurred yesterday morning according to the Kennewick Police Department. Officers were called to the scene of an accident in the parking lot of Winco. Upon arrival officers learned four to five cars had been hit and that 22-year-old Samantha Noethe of Walla Walla had struck the vehicle then fled the scene. Security footage from the parking lot shows Noethe was attempting to get away from several people who appeared to be blocking her with their vehicles. She was then removed from her car and put into another vehicle that drove away. Police later said her husband, 31-year-old Paul Gross, was being sought for investigation of domestic violence assault. Kennewick police Sgt. Ken Lattin says its safe to say this was a violent encounter.

    No motive was suggested. Police say the couple have two children.
    http://www.myeasternoregon.com/2015/...e-parking-lot/
    http://q13fox.com/2015/03/05/police-...suspect-named/

    Paul Gross
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    This really sounds bad. I can't believe they would go as a group to kidnap her.

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    can anyone find SM for her? or her husband? I tried but am lousy at searching all i got was news reports

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    It's under what must be her middle name. (I found it by finding a family member first and then using their friend list to find Samantha)

    She has two:

    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006953207311
    https://www.facebook.com/Samantha.Noethe

    Here's her husband's:

    https://www.facebook.com/pdg420?fref=ufi

    There's also a young child in the picture - she looks about 18 months maybe?

    ETA: Another FB for the husband https://www.facebook.com/paul.gross.94
    Last edited by TravelingBug; 03-06-2015 at 03:02 PM.

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    There's a post from yesterday by PG on his FB that makes it clear he's angry and said she stole the car and the milk money and how now this essentially has BOTH parents taken away from the little girl now.

    Someone commented and asked why the police say Samantha was kidnapped then...and there's obviously no reply.

    But he clearly has been on SM at some point since this happened.
    Last edited by TravelingBug; 03-06-2015 at 03:03 PM.

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    And the last post on her FB (this one - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006953207311 - not the second I linked) has what's supposedly a post from her in December also about a food card and her daughter and her husband.

    It looks like the insinuation from the post/status on her own FB back in December (this one I just referred to) is that SHE was making some choice to use the money/card for something else, but the way it's written, and looking at the comments, HE wrote it.

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    The words to describe her about (supposedly) using the food card for other reasons back in December were things like:

    Wishing she wasn't a "degenerate" again, and wishing that she'd not be "selfish" again and "run out" or about her "double standards."

    And then reading the comments (also from her account, but written by him):

    Make no mistake about it I love my wife and thier about to find out how much.
    He posts A LOT of profanity in the comments and clearly is VERY angry and making a lot of accusations.

    He's claiming he has to be the 'man and the woman' for the child and that she (SN) has run off, etc.

    This is OBVIOUSLY a (long) ongoing thing and he is an angry, angry guy. VERY scary.

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    Oh, and he also said Samantha doesn't have a phone.

    And she's clearly NOT got control over her own FB account - and that's true as far back as December.

    Her friends all were saying to call them, asking if she was ok, saying she doesn't talk like that and that stuff wouldn't be on FB.

    So the fact it's still there and not deleted, and that nothing else has been posted since then, it's pretty apparent she's not had access to it.

    He seems very controlling and manipulative on top of clearly very, very angry.

    None of this SM stuff makes me really worry about how this will end...and it already sounded really bad just with the abduction!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelingBug View Post
    And the last post on her FB (this one - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006953207311 - not the second I linked) has what's supposedly a post from her in December also about a food card and her daughter and her husband.

    It looks like the insinuation from the post/status on her own FB back in December (this one I just referred to) is that SHE was making some choice to use the money/card for something else, but the way it's written, and looking at the comments, HE wrote it.
    UM her FB is so scary to me.. Seems like this was bound to happen. Violent much? I'm so worried this hasn't ended well for this young woman.. Positive thoughts to her and her family.

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    Wow!

    Per one of her family member's SM accounts, Samantha AND the baby were just found safe!

    (You can see by using Samantha's FB to find the person who shares her last name and has a first name starting with H - then look at the comment from 30 minutes ago under the most recent article)

    Hopefully it appears in MSM soon!


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    Reading between the lines, from SM, it sounds like he convinced his friends to help trap her maybe to get his WIC/welfare card back from her? Rumor only.

    I agree with those who really can't imagine friends helping him kidnap and harm her - maybe it all went differently in the end than what the plan was? On facebook, he does have some reasonable sounding people responding to his rage at her.

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    Praise God!

    She really is safe!!

    https://twitter.com/TriCityHerald/st...11046802427904

    Update: Police say Walla Walla woman abducted in Kennewick has been found safe. Samantha Noethe was found Friday morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelingBug View Post
    Wow!

    Per one of her family member's SM accounts, Samantha AND the baby were just found safe!

    (You can see by using Samantha's FB to find the person who shares her last name and has a first name starting with H - then look at the comment from 30 minutes ago under the most recent article)

    Hopefully it appears in MSM soon!
    Yes, I think it all ended better than I expected. She didn't have the baby to begin with, though, did she? Surely if the kidnapper had snatched her out of the car AND a baby that would have been obvious on the video?

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    Apparently they were found in a hotel after tips came in from family and friends.

    http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2015/0...-abducted.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeannaT View Post
    Yes, I think it all ended better than I expected. She didn't have the baby to begin with, though, did she? Surely if the kidnapper had snatched her out of the car AND a baby that would have been obvious on the video?
    I don't think so...I'm guessing she was with PG since she apparently wasn't seen in the car part.

    Sounds like wherever she was Samantha's family didn't know her location either or at least not from Samantha's dad's FB (HN where it had initially said they were both found safe)

    The little girl is now with them, smiling, laughing, curled up with her grandpa and looking carefree. And grandpa (HN - Samantha's dad) looks equally elated!

    This article mentions two kids...but the grandpa definitely didn't (was singular reference to the child on his FB). I wonder if there's one on PG's side that isn't SN's and who is in the care of someone else?

    About 3:20 a.m. Thursday, a post apparently by Gross on one of his Facebook pages was angrily complaining and cursing about his wife’s behavior. The couple have two children.

    Police looked for Noethe throughout the day, seizing at least one car and searching at least two homes, before finding them at the hotel.
    In any case, props to LE for finding Samantha safely and detaining PG.

    Given he clearly had help, I'm curious if there will be more arrests?

    Read more here: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2015/0...#storylink=cpy

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