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    MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #15



    11-year-old Jacob Wetterling was riding bicycles with his brother and a friend in St. Joseph, Minnesota on October 22, 1989 when they were approached by an unknown man with a gun. The man let the other boys go, but grabbed Jacob and walked away with him. Jacob has never been heard from again.

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    Brought over from the previous thread:

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    Continually we have posters on here referring to the ineptness of Stearns county.

    Please refer to the FACT that investigators from THE BCA were reviewing the case and THEY found the info to search the R farm. The BCA, not Stearns county

    The FBI is involved as well as Stearns County and the BCA.

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    this is so easy with pictures! Short and sweet

    How to spot a pathological liar

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    I'm still reading the pdf from ELOC's book, but I'll certainly post questions if I have some. Thanks!

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    The other thought is: perhaps the Stearns county LE have been looking at this so long that they're missing something in plain sight. I've pondered if our perpetrator is somehow a local person who is well respected or at least someone well known and perhaps some people know or suspect of his guilt but don't dare voice it because it might be like arresting the easter bunny or santa claus.

    Or maybe someones father or uncle they always wondered about.

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    Could be people have given info on suspects that we know nothing about.

    They can give anecdotal evidence, but it would have to be something tangible

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    Quote Originally Posted by human View Post
    Could be people have given info on suspects that we know nothing about.

    They can give anecdotal evidence, but it would have to be something tangible
    Very true. LE has consistently stated they have four to five main suspects. DR is not the only one. The fact that LE follows up on other leads is evidence they check other possibilities out.

    Unfortunately, sometimes I think we tend to interpret their lack of feedback to mean they're not trying. I used to think they didn't try hard enough. That's no longer my belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELOCsoul View Post
    Very true. LE has consistently stated they have four to five main suspects. DR is not the only one. The fact that LE follows up on other leads is evidence they check other possibilities out.

    Unfortunately, sometimes I think we tend to interpret their lack of feedback to mean they're not trying. I used to think they didn't try hard enough. That's no longer my belief.
    I reported a crime once. Drug dealers. LE talked with me and told me that they would be out in an hour if they arrested them.

    I was so angry!

    I believe 5 years later I saw the ones I reported in a huge drug bust. It took LE that long to work the case to their satisfaction, not mine.

    They know plenty of things they do not share with the public. Why should they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliensporebomb View Post
    The other thought is: perhaps the Stearns county LE have been looking at this so long that they're missing something in plain sight. I've pondered if our perpetrator is somehow a local person who is well respected or at least someone well known and perhaps some people know or suspect of his guilt but don't dare voice it because it might be like arresting the easter bunny or santa claus.

    Or maybe someones father or uncle they always wondered about.
    I know I keep pushing the B- Brothers, and I even posted the tapes from DM here, and they were removed. I'm not going to question why they were removed. They're accessible on line anyway.

    The point is that, although they are a little slow, I feel they know enough to possibly connect the rest of the dots. Part of the connecting can be done with the rest of DM's information. The BCA knows about it, and they investigated SOME of it, but not all. The current sheriff asked DM two questions, both had nothing to do with the case, and that was the end of the interview. He never looked at the rest of the information she has. If two detectives found the information and DM credible, I would think LE in Stearns County would look at it.

    The possibility of it being a well loved and adored person is very possible, and this may be why there's been no follow up on this information that DM has been trying to get them to look at.

    I'm still learning to navigate the website, so please forgive my errors... :0/


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    If you speak to anyone familiar with this case from the LE side, they have checked out the Bahners over and over again. They are all liars. There is no way they could keep a vast conspiracy about child abduction quiet. DM can't keep bringing the same tapes forward and expect them to be checked out every time.

    I believe there is probably some form of pedophilia ring in the St. Cloud area, DM is relatively convincing on that accord. Did the ring have something to do with Jacob's disappearance? I would say it's doubtful.

    The logic of collective action would preclude vast numbers of pedophiles in jail or treatment (ha ha) without tattling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by human View Post
    Have you read ELOC's book?

    If not, your questions about DM may be answered.

    Do some research on your own on the net.
    No I didn't read the book, but I did read the PDF portion email to me. Good Job ELOC! DM has court documents and other information that he has not had access to. I'm speaking with people who know how credible she is. Her information is good. Even she admits the B Brothers aren't the whole story. There's a lot more to it, and she had access to witnesses, etc. I will read the whole book, however. I will keep an open mind, but I just can't rule out the B-brothers when I know what I know now.....not yet.... Thank you for your help. :0)

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    If it was any good they'd be all over it. BCA agents have spent their careers on this case

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaplain1 View Post
    If it was any good they'd be all over it. BCA agents have spent their careers on this case
    Exactly. Why would you have to "convince them" to look at it?

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    Not one LE wants to be the heroes who solved this case? Hard to believe

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