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    NV - Carson City, WhtFem UP13838, 42-71, buried on Lone Mountain, Mar'15

    http://www.mynews4.com/news/story/Bo...ZMi6bmk2A.cspx

    Human remains may have been discovered in Carson City -- officials said a hiker stumbled upon bones in a shallow grave that appeared to be suspicious.

    Carson City Sheriff Ken Furlong said the grave contains, “What is believed to be human extremities, and is being investigated as a suspicious.”

    A witness who was walking his dog past the crime scene reported to see what appears to be a piece of clothing on the ground. Carson City Sheriff’s Detectives are on the scene, and a crime lab and coroner have been called. Currently the scene has been taped off and investigators are calling it a “long term investigation.”
    http://www.ktvn.com/story/28543930/c...-lone-mountain

    Carson City Sheriff's Deputies say they are investigating a body found late Tuesday morning near Roop Street and Winnie Lane at Lone Mountain... Furlong says responding deputies found two shoes and a foot that appeared to be exposed from a shallow grave on the hillside. Furlong says the area is not associated with the cemetery, but is heavily traveled by the homeless population and hikers.

    The Carson City Sheriff's Office is coordinating closely with the Washoe County Medical Examiner's Office before any “unearthing” is performed...

    Investigators say they are also searching old records of any missing persons from the area.
    BBM: Does that mean years old or decades old? I wonder what style of shoes, maybe distinctively vintage?

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    i know right.... you would think really old shoes would rot off though.

    Quote Originally Posted by OkieGranny View Post
    http://www.mynews4.com/news/story/Bo...ZMi6bmk2A.cspx



    http://www.ktvn.com/story/28543930/c...-lone-mountain



    BBM: Does that mean years old or decades old? I wonder what style of shoes, maybe distinctively vintage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvaldez1975 View Post
    i know right.... you would think really old shoes would rot off though.
    It's pretty dry around Carson City. Even non-embalmed human remains around northern Nevada tend to mummify rather than rot away. It's not unusual to find well-preserved old clothing and shoes around old mining settlements.



    I wonder if this could be related to an earlier case of skeletal remains found last summer in Douglas County. Here is the info on that case
    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12908
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...r-Lake-June-14

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    Quote Originally Posted by micheleonelonly View Post
    It's pretty dry around Carson City. Even non-embalmed human remains around northern Nevada tend to mummify rather than rot away. It's not unusual to find well-preserved old clothing and shoes around old mining settlements.



    I wonder if this could be related to an earlier case of skeletal remains found last summer in Douglas County. Here is the info on that case
    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12908
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...r-Lake-June-14

    If I remember correctly, the oldest known surviving pair of Levi's jeans were discovered outside of Virginia City in an old mine.
    I've experienced the unexplainable.

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    http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines...296612881.html

    New info, we now have a thorough description:

    "Full results from an autopsy are not in, but detectives now know the body is that of a female with reddish/blond hair, between 5 foot 2 inches and 5' 8". She was wearing an adult diaper, white Aics size 7 shoes with purple lines, size 8 rings, and Aristar bifocals glasses with 135mm inscription, plus partial top dentures.

    The woman may have been associated with the local homeless population. Anyone with information is asked to contact Detective Acosta 775-283-7855 or acosta@carson.org, or 775-887-2008."


    May we get a mod to update the description?

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    old records of any missing persons from the area?

    Found this profile
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/25291/2/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    old records of any missing persons from the area?

    Found this profile
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/25291/2/
    Great find! I find the "adult diaper" and "bifocals" information in the post above yours to be interesting. It makes me wonder if this is a disabled or elderly adult. I'm not sure how many homeless walk around in adult diapers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaborDayRN View Post
    Great find! I find the "adult diaper" and "bifocals" information in the post above yours to be interesting. It makes me wonder if this is a disabled or elderly adult. I'm not sure how many homeless walk around in adult diapers.
    It does sound like this is an older woman.

    The diaper makes me wonder if the medical examiner was able to figure out if the unidentified woman had given birth at some point in her life. A lot of women become slightly incontinent after childbirth, especially if they've had more than one child. If the UID had kids and was slightly incontinent as a result, it could have worsened with age (since incontinence is a very common issue among the elderly anyway) and gotten to where she had to wear a diaper.

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    I wonder if this is Opal Parsons? She was 81 years old when she disappeared from Las Vegas in August of 2007. She wore an upper denture plate. Her hair was dyed blonde at the time of her disappearance. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/parsons_opal.html


    Here's the link to the UID Namus page, with a lot more description of clothing and items......https://identifyus.org/en/cases/13838
    ****GRAPHIC **** WARNING ****** Photo of UID skull, teeth, and jawbones at NAMUS link
    There is only one ruleout on the Namus page-Lisa Adcock from KY
    Last edited by rainwater; 12-29-2015 at 01:30 PM.
    Where is Shawn Hale? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7546/0/ Missing from Apple Valley CA since 11/04/1994

    Where is Michelle Crawford? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14428/0/ Missing from Lawton, OK since 06/08/1999

    Where is Jennifer Lee Schmidt? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4822/0/ (Missing From West Lafayette IN(Purdue University) since 08/06/85.

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    Warning: Pictures 17 - 18 are very graphic and show the partially-decomposed remains (with a close-up of the face), still clothed, not very long after she was unearthed. The rest of the pictures in the gallery are of the dry bones and articles of clothing. But seriously, if you're faint of heart, definitely skip over those two.

    There aren't many reasons why someone would wear camo. Makes we wonder if she was going hunting. Do people hunt in that area?


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    Hey, does anyone reading this know enough about dentistry to make a dental chart using the photos we have of her teeth? Carl?

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    NV - Carson City, skeletal remains in shallow grave at Lone Mountain, Mar'15

    Randomly:

    Asics shoes, I was surprised to find out, have been around since the 1940s. I easily found pairs with colorful stripes from as far back as the 90s. Didn't look in depth. Edit: "Gel-Frantic 4", her specific model of sneaker, is still on the market and the oldest reference I could find was 2011. The rest of it sounds like random donated Walmart clothes.

    Aristar glasses began manufacture in the early 1990s.
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    Well I just got an email that she is not a match for Julie Early.However...

    Quote Originally Posted by ArianeEmory View Post
    Randomly:
    Some witnesses had come forward who said they believed her name was julie or Montana, or was from Montana. So, the detective I emailed is checking to see if it's Debbie Munyon who disappeared in 1984. Also for the record the shoe brand is sold in many stores around here including Walmart, previously Mervyn's, could of been found at good will as well. Mervyn's closed in 2008 in Carson city. I'm more interested in her teeth and jewelry. I will ask to see if opal Marie Parsons is a match as well. She coincidentally had a gold ring with an opal on it. However they believe she was younger than 80yrs old. A local dentist I spoke with suggested the upper partial dentures suggest she was not homeless as they are more expensive than getting the rest of the teeth pulled for full dentures and that they (the partial dentures) appear to be about 5 years old. Also in my opinion chances are she frize to death as temperatures at night here drop really low during the night and there's usually at least one homeless person death in the news yearly. Her right hip bone in namus picture appears broken in my opinion but unknown if that was post mortum. Also in the pictures she appears to have a pullup on as opposed to diaper. Which is indicitive of a younger more independent person from my experience of caring for the elderly in this area. I live very near where she was found, like 5 minutes away...and I would really like to go walk around the sight she was found but I don't want to go alone.
    Asics shoes, I was surprised to find out, have been around since the 1940s. I easily found pairs with colorful stripes from as far back as the 90s. Didn't look in depth. Edit: "Gel-Frantic 4", her specific model of sneaker, is still on the market and the oldest reference I could find was 2011. The rest of it sounds like random donated Walmart clothes.

    Aristar glasses began manufacture in the early 1990s.

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    There is now a facial reconstruction, along with two rule-outs (Lisa Adcock and Gina Schmidt). In a few of the pictures, they put on the glasses she was found wearing.

    Links to the two recons:
    https://identifyus.org/en/medias/full/34805
    https://identifyus.org/en/medias/full/34810

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    Sometimes people use adult diapers when they're in a situation when they're not going to be able to stop for a bathroom break for a prolonged period. Driving long distances, usually. One woman I used to know didn't like to stop when she was driving at night because she was worried about being attacked, etc.
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