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    Bali - Sheila von Wiese Mack's body found in suitcase - #5

    'An American tourist's battered body has been found in a suitcase at an exclusive hotel on Indonesia's resort island of Bali and her daughter and daughter's boyfriend have been arrested over the killing, police said.

    The body of Sheila von Wiese Mack was found on Tuesday stuffed into a suitcase in the boot of a taxi in front of the five-star St Regis hotel in the upscale Nusa Dua resort area of Bali.'

    The 62 - year-old victim had been staying in the exclusive hotel with her daughter, Heather, 19, and her daughter's boyfriend, Tommy Schaefer, 21. She was found half naked and investigators say she had put up such a fierce struggle, she had broken her left hand.

    The US Embassy in Jakarta says it is aware of the arrests. There doesn't seem to be any information about where in the US the three are from.

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    Just want to mention that the man sitting next to HM will be a translator. Her lawyer(s) sit off to the side, behind the carved bench that you can see in the 1st picture. She had to sit by herself in front of the judges .. other than having a translator with her. Same with TS.

    In the 2nd pic, she is probably looking over at her lawyer ... "dammit, they know about the text messages - whoops, forgot to mention those to you."





    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rial-Bali.html
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    Bali - Sheila von Wiese Macks body found in suitcase. Daughter, boyfriend charged #5

    Please continue here....

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    Because the old thread is closed I cannot quote anything from it, would someone post the pics from the last tommyex photos link that was posted? Thank you.

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    Grace...does still not load for you?

    http://ink361.com/app/users/ig-18423...ommyexx/photos

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    east2west !


    I know I read that TS and RS had not been dating for a couple of years at the time of her death. I think they broke up before they both started college per a close friend of hers that was chagrined that TS's name was being linked with RS's name under such sordid circumstances and was making it clear the two were long past their dating days with no recent affiliation. RS and TS graduated in 2011 from Oak Park-River Forest High School and HM left there in June 2013 at the end of her junior year. He started at Northern Illinois and RS at U of M, I believe that was for the 2011-2012 fall term which makes sense because on a site about a scholarship drive in her name notes her as being a junior at the university. There was discussion in one of the very early threads of speculation that TS and HM probably were acquainted thru the high school, though I'm not sure that was the case. Side note, I just realized that SWM was 43 when she had HM, I don't know why that surprised me.
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    Just going over the emails that were sent and noticed that there was one from HM (chocolateswirl)- sent to her mother.
    What interests me is the final end remark ... in BOLD

    http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wls/docum...ack-emails.pdf


    From: "Sheila von Wiese" <sheilavonw@sbcglobal.net>
    To: "Elliott Jacobson" <ejent@comcast.net>
    Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2014 11:22:48 PM
    Subject: Fw:
    On Sunday, July 6, 2014 9:53 PM, Heather Mack <chocolateswirl@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    You dont want me at all so im just leaving i just want to die


    From: "Sheila von Wiese" <sheilavonw@sbcglobal.net>
    To: ejent@comcast.net
    Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:08:10 PM
    Dear Elliott,
    I have not been able to call you today - it was terrible all last night and again this morning. I was with the police for several hours late last night (I returned home at 1:30 am and did not want to wake you up at that hour) and I had to meet with them again today. It took almost four hours at the station because I had to wait so long. A real nightmare unfolded....I will call you later tonight to tell you all of the details. I was
    scared to death - one of the guys that Heather was with had a gun.
    Love,
    Sheila

    This is a line I think she has used to get her way before - and she has used it as ammunition (via Soenardi) to say that she is 'suicidal'. A threat to intimidate - blame - shift responsibility, with the pre-empt to deceive cunningly. I doubt she had any intention to 'die' on either occasion - considering the email threat:
    HM was just about to (or already had made the move) to add herself to her mothers Credit card and use it fraudulently to have a Squad Party at the Conrad at Sheila's expense.
    Considering the demand from Soenardi to the Trustee:
    She was just about to give birth and she wanted more money immediately.

    No, she was not going to 'die' she just (1) needed to get away and commit a crime - and make her mother feel as if it was her fault.
    and (2) same thing related to the Suicide threat prior to the baby's birth and to try and force the funds to be released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FigTree View Post
    Just going over the emails that were sent and noticed that there was one from HM (chocolateswirl)- sent to her mother.
    What interests me is the final end remark ... in BOLD

    http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wls/docum...ack-emails.pdf




    This is a line I think she has used to get her way before - and she has used it as ammunition (via Soenardi) to say that she is 'suicidal'. A threat to intimidate - blame - shift responsibility, with the pre-empt to deceive cunningly. I doubt she had any intention to 'die' on either occasion - considering the email threat:
    HM was just about to (or already had made the move) to add herself to her mothers Credit card and use it fraudulently to have a Squad Party at the Conrad at Sheila's expense.
    Considering the demand from Soenardi to the Trustee:
    She was just about to give birth and she wanted more money immediately.

    No, she was not going to 'die' she just (1) needed to get away and commit a crime - and make her mother feel as if it was her fault.
    and (2) same thing related to the Suicide threat prior to the baby's birth and to try and force the funds to be released.
    Jodi Arias, a woman who fought tooth and nail to avoid the death penalty. Almost the exact same line repeated multiple times to her victim. It's a manipulation ploy only. Both have incredible self esteem and entitled narcissism and would never kill themselves. Both are fighting with every manipulative tool in their arsenal to live. Both blaming the victim and refusing to take any responsibility. Both murders premeditated by months at least.

    The similarities in the two are frightening.

    MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by gracehatter View Post
    Because the old thread is closed I cannot quote anything from it, would someone post the pics from the last tommyex photos link that was posted? Thank you.
    Here's the one that was posted 71 weeks ago - Tommy with his lil' homie :

    Lil homie .JPG
    Last edited by IslandLover; 03-23-2015 at 10:22 AM.

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    Good catch on the date you guys! Hmmm.


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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-together.html

    "Smiling 'Bali body in suitcase' teen Heather Mack leaves hospital with newborn daughter to begin life in prison together"

    *barf*

    Anyways, I'm confused about this:

    "Despite the emotional scenes, administrative affairs had to be dealt with - one of Miss Mack's legal team had to settle the hospital bill, paying $6000 with his credit card, which he will claim back from the many thousands of dollars that have been released to him from Miss Mack's Trust account. "

    I coulda sworn this was already paid for from the trust...

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    I am stunned as usual at the photos and video with that article ^^^.

    It's like theater of the absurd.



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    From a July 30 email (shortly before departure to Bali:

    Your daughter may steal your computer again so you have to change the password, user name and the security question as well as establish a security wall also with passwords, user names etc. to even prevent the computer from being opened at all. This would protect your e-mail, internet sites you access and the files in your computer......[snipped]
    I suggest that you use the inheritance as a weapon. Talk to your brother about a contract that Heather will have to sign in order to receive
    anything ever. The contract would along the lines of what I wrote you regarding earning the inheritance. Heather does not need to know about
    anything in your will other than that in order to be eligible for anything she must sign. You just tell her it out of your hands and up to Heather.
    I think HM read SWM's emails and that sealed SWM's fate.

    Thoughts about the latest news. HM's sense of entitlement continues to astound me. She acts like she's Kate Middleton returning to the palace, smiling patiently as she deals with the paparazzi. Life is tough when you're a world-class celebrity (in your own mind).

    Re: suicide threats. Yes, she's worked this phony threat to her advantage before. Poor Sheila.

    Favia anticipated $15K for the birth, including pre-natal. That sounds like HM had decided all along that she would have a c-section. I'm skeptical that pre-natal came to $9K.

    I wonder if Kia Walker is going to stay in Bali for the duration of the trial. Her fund-raiser only got $10K. The last update she provided, $200 had gone to TS for food and essentials. She spent a much larger chunk on two trips to Bali. Not a whole lot left for legal representation for TS - or does she know that TS's legal costs are buried in HM's bills? She clearly didn't know HM (and her 'attitude') or she would have known HM wasn't handing Stella over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamille View Post
    Jodi Arias, a woman who fought tooth and nail to avoid the death penalty. Almost the exact same line repeated multiple times to her victim. It's a manipulation ploy only. Both have incredible self esteem and entitled narcissism and would never kill themselves. Both are fighting with every manipulative tool in their arsenal to live. Both blaming the victim and refusing to take any responsibility. Both murders premeditated by months at least.

    The similarities in the two are frightening.

    MOO
    I have to say even tho I do not follow JA, after seeing that last link I have to agree with you. You have to hand it to Heather she is nothing if not consistent in her theatre, and she is not stupid.

    @whattthewhaat, Yes, I know one of the articles I read recently after the birth said that there was an advance given to the hospital of a certain amount authorized by Cohen apart from the 150k.

    I'm betting right now the baby comes to court with her. I mean, I'm not sure the authorities want in any way, shape or form to be responsible for the care of this child away from her mother so I wonder if they will find it probably easier just to make HM be with her 24-7.
    Last edited by gracehatter; 03-23-2015 at 12:33 PM.

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    There was something here in the comments that sparked my brain a bit... First Scifo, do we know how long has he known both SWM and HM to make some of these statements? These US Attorneys have repeated in the past, statements HM has claimed from Bali (where to start, how bout being assaulted). So I have to take his statements tongue in cheek, as he is relaying her words?

    Ok here's my question on this Power of Attorney issue. Can POA even authorize or demand abortions?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...320-story.html

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