04-10-2015, 01:33 AM #1
Websleuths Post of the Day!! Nominate your friends or nominate yourself!! 4/10/2015
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This thread is for Friday April10 2015.
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04-10-2015, 01:38 AM #2
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04-10-2015, 12:18 PM #3Registered User
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04-10-2015, 12:22 PM #4
04-10-2015, 05:01 PM #5
I nominate this post from ajaylee for post of the day- from the Heather Mack/Tommy Shaeffer Bali trial thread: Sadly, it's possible that the US government (State Department) is behind this latest fiasco. Someone from the US embassy may have notified Indonesian authorities of their concerns. There's no legal means to remove Stella from HM's care in Indonesia right now, so any concern for Stella's circumstances necessarily involves HM. Stella needs quiet, privacy and air conditioning? Well, HM's going to get it, too. I think it's clear that although Indonesia allows infants until the age of two, most Indonesians don't see this as desirable. I think there's only two types of Indonesian women who keep their infants in prison: those who have no other option and those who are nuts/cunning like HM.
Soenardi's greatest coup in all of this has been his efforts to change the story. It's not about two greedy teens cold-bloodedly planning and executing a helpless 62-year-old woman. It's about two star-crossed young lovers who just want to be together with their baby and their (inherited by murder) bank account. It's like the courts are being pressured to 'do the right thing' and stop putting obstacles in the lovers' path. SWM has almost been erased from the narrative: it's about the suffering of the two young lovers as they try to stay strong in the face of adversity. (I'm gagging as I type this). HM has probably already been rehearsing her story for the (paid) TV interviews and movie-of-the-week she expects when she gets back to the US.
It's ironic that even the prosecution (which has clearly been tainted) suggests that HM and TS deserve a break because they are young and can change if given a chance.
Um...hello....MS and AC have spent a decade behind bars actually demonstrating that they can and have changed, but in their case, the argument seems to be that whether or not you change, you still owe a debt to society for the crimes you have committed.
Of course, MS and AC don't have Soenardi (and $$$) working on their side.
We have to be careful not to fall into the same trap. Stella isn't in crap conditions because of the inhumanity of the Indonesian prison system. Stella is in crap conditions because her mother has chosen to keep her in prison instead of releasing her to better circumstances. She's being enabled and encouraged by her fawning Aussie friends.Last edited by ajaylee; Today at 09:03 AM.This is the year to locate Mark Dribin http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ht=Mark+Dribin NamUs MP#876 and Ilene Misheloff http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...lene+Misheloff NamUs MP#6410 and bring them home to their families!
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04-10-2015, 05:49 PM #6
04-11-2015, 02:09 AM #7
Gin wins our Websleuths Post of the Day.
JMO-The justification for using a gun and shooting a suspect 8 times would be the officer was in fear for his life. It's hard to meet that bar when the suspect is running away and all the bullets are aimed at the suspect's back.
I'm not excusing what Scott did. I just don't think it should have earned him the death penalty.
In my personal opinion, the officer made a few serious errors, as well. He shot and killed someone who was running away, then he carefully crafted a story to fit his scenario of what happened in his call to dispatch and the report. Beyond that, it sure appears he staged the scene to help sell it. And then there is the whole basically stand by and watch the suspect die issue. Did anyone give CPR? Maybe I'm missing something but it doesn't appear that it was done in any kind of a timely manner if it was. There were a few of them involved with that.
I don't believe the takeaway from all this is never run from police, always comply, comply, comply. Some are going to be very fearful that a bad officer will be willing to lie and stage a scene to attempt to guarantee a conviction. That is not a good thing. We have to be better than this.
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