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    UK - Elsie Frost, 14, Wakefield, West Yorkshire; 09 October 1965 *ARREST*

    Interesting case, even without serial killer component; Daily Mail:

    Why do police want to hide the secrets of little Elsie's savage
    murder for 95 years... and is it linked to the Yorkshire Ripper?

    ⁍ Elsie Frost was 14-years-old when she was murdered on October 9, 1965
    ⁍ She was stabbed in the back and head in Wakefield, West Yorkshire
    ⁍ The case files relating to her murder have been sealed until 2060
    ⁍ Internet speculation suggests the murder was early crime of Peter Sutcliffe
    Story at link above.

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    Just had a quick read of this online and came to see if there was a thread.
    Why on earth would they need to keep the file closed for another 45 years??!

    I've added it to the UK cases thread
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...cussion*/page4
    Last edited by CoverMeCagney; 04-18-2015 at 05:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    Interesting case, even without serial killer component; Daily Mail:

    Why do police want to hide the secrets of little Elsie's savage
    murder for 95 years... and is it linked to the Yorkshire Ripper?

    Story at link above.
    Some interesting comments below the article, does any local sleuther know if the area back then was frequented by men looking for sex?

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    I'm going to speculate, it's the Devil in me that makes me do it

    Maybe somebody (family) requested recently that they take another look at it, so they do DNA on the knife sheath. Now, did they find some DNA that either matched Peter Sutcliffe or another. I don't think they'd worry too much if it was PS's but something prompted the file to be closed.

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    Perhaps linked to the celebrity paedophiles? Jimmy saville et al?

    Having just read the DM article it doesn't look likely to be linked to any paedophiles however I do wonder if perhaps someone in the public eye, be it Peter Sutcliffe or not, May be linked to the case. I'd assume they will have reassessed any DNA on the weapon etc now. Intriguing!
    Last edited by eneri12; 04-18-2015 at 12:39 PM. Reason: ETA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin Hood View Post
    I'm going to speculate, it's the Devil in me that makes me do it

    Maybe somebody (family) requested recently that they take another look at it, so they do DNA on the knife sheath. Now, did they find some DNA that either matched Peter Sutcliffe or another. I don't think they'd worry too much if it was PS's but something prompted the file to be closed.
    Yes, agreed. And it did match that of a probably deceased VIP then?

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    My thoughts exactly wfgot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eneri12 View Post
    Perhaps linked to the celebrity paedophiles? Jimmy saville et al?
    I don't think it would be that either. They are getting found out of late so I doubt they want another kicking there, one loose end it would all unravel. It's something that, imo, isn't connected to anything known at the present and maybe, if the person responsible didn't do it again, they're on a safe bet.

    It isn't connected either to the man they hounded, they were kind enough to leave that mans name in the archive for all to see.
    Last edited by Robin Hood; 04-18-2015 at 12:42 PM. Reason: added a sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajc748 View Post
    Just had a quick read of this online and came to see if there was a thread.
    Why on earth would they need to keep the file closed for another 45 years??!

    I've added it to the UK cases thread
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...cussion*/page4
    I wonder if anyone has thought about or tried to file a lawsuit over this.


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    95 more years...."Royal family?" I find myself stammering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    95 more years...."Royal family?" I find myself stammering.
    I don't know what you could possibly mean, OUR Royal family, perish the thought

    Nah, I doubt they would be connected, HRH Prince Andrew has already spent the tax payers money sorting the last fiasco out. I was thinking something simpler than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    Yes, agreed. And it did match that of a probably deceased VIP then?
    And they just happen to have the DNA of this VIP on file? Why would that be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherwell View Post
    And they just happen to have the DNA of this VIP on file? Why would that be?
    Who can say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    Who can say?
    I find it implausible. If such a person was being shielded by the Establishment, anything that might incriminate him would have been destroyed, surely? I can't see them keeping his DNA handily available for checking.

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