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    NEW WEBSITE IS ONLINE:



    HELP DENISE NOW

    http://helpdenisenow.com/




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    MYSTERY SURROUNDS DISAPPEARANCE OF AMERICAN WOMAN ON ANCIENT CATHOLIC PILGRIMAGE IN SPAIN


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    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/06...oman-in-spain/


    After interviewing the locals and searching nearby hospitals for his sister, [Cedric]Thiem said he believes she was "overcome physically" while walking the route.

    "I really feel that she got into a bad situation," he said, noting his sister carried no valuables with her other than a Kindle and her backpack stuffed with clothes, food and water.


    (...)

    Thiem said he believes foul play is to blame and expressed frustration with U.S. authorities who he claims have provided little information about his sister. "Does the U.S. even have any services in cases where citizens go missing abroad?" asked Thiem. "There’s no one there to really guide you."
    "It sounds like they're just calling the embassy over there and asking for an update," he said.

    (...)

    Thiem said his sister, who was born in Hong Kong and raised in Phoenix, planned to hike the Camino de Santiago after watching the 2010 film, "The Way," starring Martin Sheen (...)
    The film has since inspired thousands of others to walk the pilgrimage, which has become a major tourist attraction for Spain in recent years.

    While Thiem says he has no answers about his sister, emails he's received since her disappearance tell frightening tales of walking the spiritual path.

    "People wrote about women being harassed on the trail," said Thiem, who had set up an e-mail account for any tips about his sister. He said he also received messages from people who claimed they were followed by strangers in cars.

    "I guess even a Catholic pilgrimage like this is going to attract the wrong people," he said. "It gives you a false sense of security."


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    WALKING WITH CAUTION ON THE PILGRIMAGE ROUTE


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    High season at the Camino de Santiago has arrived without an end to the mystery of the disappearance of pilgrim Denise Pikka Thiem. The Camino is full of fears.

    An American woman is missing and several assaults on women have turned the stretch of 14.5 kilometers between Astorga and el Ganso into the most feared track of the Camino de Santiago.
    Many pilgrims skip the track and the rest is advised that they "do not go alone or always have someone in their view"


    She is 58 years old and travels the Camino de Santiago on her own. Tessa Trudeau came from Vancouver (Canada) encouraged by her brother, a triathlete who was seduced by the messages of mysticism that still accompany this ancient route. "The Camino is a journey to cleanse the mind. I do not carry my phone or computer. I have come to empty myself." Almost a month ago she departed from France, she started the Camino through Roncesvalles and these days of June she has made a stop in Astorga (León) trying to heal some infectious sores on her feet. She is having a quiet breakfast in the cafeteria Gaudi.

    At one of the tables of its terrace, with the best view of the Episcopal palace designed by Antoni Gaudi, two and a half months ago all traces were lost of Denise Pikka Thiem, another solitary traveler who also came from across the Atlantic. Methodical and disciplined, she was one of those pilgrims with an outfit of trekking poles and reflective boots. One of the new generation who have replaced the talks in shelters with the advantages of technology. "I spoke with her on Skype every two days to find out if she was all right. But from April 1 on, nothing at all," explains her brother Cedric, who took a plane from the United States as soon as he heard the news. Yesterday it was two months ago that he denounced her disappearance. Cedric endeared himself with the inhabitants of Astorga during the weeks that he participated in the search efforts. Now he awaits news from his native Arizona.

    Tessa began to hear rumors about insecurity on the Camino when she arrived in Burgos. The closer she came to Astorga, the louder the murmurs of growing concern resounded. "Since I started the Camino in Saint Jean Pied de Port (France) I have seen three deaths - she tells it with a neutral voice - The first on the climb to Roncesvalles from hypothermia. The second, in the first Spanish hostel where I slept: a person who suffered a heart attack. And third, a man who drowned near Pamplona. I think I was drunk." The accumulation of misfortunes that this woman tells sounds exceptional. Records of accidents on this route, which over 270,000 people will travel this year, only counted about thirty deaths (almost all by accidents on the road or natural causes) in 25 years. It also sounds exceptional that, despite the experience of this woman who travelled through the French and Navarre regions, lately almost all cases have been concentrated in the Leonese area.

    The disappearance off the streets of Astorga of Denise, 41, with Asian features and born in Hong Kong but living in Phoenix (Arizona), has turned the stretch of the Camino between the capital of Maragata region and village of El Ganso ( 14.5 kilometers) in a kind of 'Bermuda Triangle'. "In the 25 years since the revival of the Camino this disappearance is the first of its kind. And many cities with less passing visitors would prefer to have the rate of danger that we do," Juan Carlos Perez, the president of the Association of Friends of the Camino de Astorga, reassures.

    But the case of Denise has unleashed the fears and warnings. Maureen, from New York, reported that a cyclist tried several times to fondle her breasts. It happened between Acebo and Molinaseca, 30 kilometers from where the missing woman was last seen. Barbara Veronese, 60, saw a car stop at 15 meters away from her. A man got out. "It was strange. I think he was masturbating. " In the middle of the search for Denise, the case of Covadonga Ayora, a neighbor of Santa Catalina de Somoza, halfway between Astorga and El Ganso, jumped to attention. She denounced an attempted kidnapping by two men traveling in a vehicle. Although no one in the region, nor the Civil Guard, gave some credibility to her story.

    Real or fictitious, these events have perturbed the peace of this part of the Camino. Five thousand members are awaiting developments on the Facebook page Help.Denise. Now (Ayuda.Denise.Ahora) created by Richard, a university friend of the missing woman. Richard was the last one to leave the searches in which have participated dozens of people from Astorga. In addition, foreign pilgrims invite solitary walkers to register online at Buddy System, a military technique copied from the US Army that is used in school camps. Each person appoints a security escort to make a 'chain' and always know where he is.

    70% of the 270,000 pilgrims who will travel this year to Compostela are foreigners. To guide them, Ivark Rekve manages since a decade a forum on the internet. "Now is a time when a lot of things have come together and we thought we had to warn people," he explains to justify the last advice to his readers: "We ask you to walk together or in groups in this particular part of the Camino." Rekve insists that, during these years, he never considered necessary a similar notice. "It is not meant to scare anyone, but to inform those who walk through the area." All these warnings and their reflection in the international press have come to affect the atmosphere of harmony and camaraderie that always has been breathing through the route. Mari Mar, a taxi driver in the area, acknowledges that "there are pilgrims asking for my service and they skip the entire stretch."

    Conchi Alonso owns the hostel San Javier and the Gaudí cafeteria, where the missing Denise slept and took her last breakfast on Easter Sunday (April 5). "I was here at seven in the morning and she had already left. They walk out there, having a good time. This has never happened. See what the hostel is like!" Indeed, the 75 berths of her place are packed out. Even the Interpol has been there to question her. What has this woman is not telling is why Denise was not in her logbook, which delayed the investigation and forced searches in a wider range during the first week.

    During the Xacobeo World Meeting, held in Santiago last week, this case was also discussed. There it was recognized that we must draw a lesson from all this: the need to "differentiate between tourism and pilgrimage, regarding and taking care of the special nature of the pilgrim". Its president in Astorga admits that "the rules have to be improved, since the current regulation of the Castilla and León does not include the obligation to register the traveler."

    Astorga is the end of the monotonous Castilian stages. It gives way to a stretch of old farmlands that have been replaced by Mediterranean scrub with a predominance of holm and gall oaks and beeches. In the distance the Bierzo mountains and harsh slopes of the Iron Cross in Foncebadón are already visible, opening the door to Galicia.

    At the roadside, the barista of restaurant Silva serves the last coffees and says goodbye to those who started again the route. For weeks, his tables have been the headquarters of search brigades, dozens of residents, motorists, cyclists or riders. Juan Silva was born there, he knows the area like nobody and fears the worst. "As if the earth has swallowed her. They have gone to the communes of hippies around all of León and sought even through the sales of lime in case they have buried her. Nothing nothing nothing at all. " The lack of news is exasperating. "If the worst did happen and she is somewhere over here, when the hunting season arrives, maybe the hounds will find her." For now, the dogs of the Giardia Civíl have failed to do this.

    You only need to go over the long slope of los Mártires to reach the neighboring Valdeviejas. There, at the door of the chapel of Ecce Homo one is always greeted by Antonio Martinez Domenech and Agustina del Campo. They are part of this huge family of 'beacons' volunteers along the Camino, always ready to help, guide and advise. Antonio sells four-leaf clovers ("and even five, six, ... I even have eight"), holy cards and Compostelas. He is a temporary hospitalero from Astorga to Rabanal, the newly cursed stretch, and he knows everything about everyone. "It will not turn out well for those who want to scare. People keep going to mass, including many single girls." He has not finished speaking when Eva arrives, a young woman from Navarre who is walking unaccompanied and wants a seal for her accreditation. "Girl, you better not walk alone. If you follow the route without leaving it, you will always see someone in front or behind, " warns Agustina, a woman of 87 years. She passes her years as a widow showing the hermitage and collecting alms to fix the church of Valdeviejas. In mid-June the season is still high. At least 250 people cross each day there. When Eve returns to the track, behind her appear from afar new walking figures.

    This is a dirt road well marked and safe: It runs parallel to the road and avoids the crossings, the main cause of accidents so far. But also an area with ponds and lakes, a landscape of nooks and corners similar to the famous Médulas of el Bierzo.
    "I have combed this area each morning. I can not find any explanation."
    Bienvenido Merino is one of those unique characters who appear at any turn. Since 1990 he awaits the pilgrims at the entrance of Santa Catalina de Somoza, halfway to El Ganso. He sings praise to all about the benefits of the hostel San Blas, one of two of the village and run by his grandson Reuben. At a glance he puts 'on file' all of so many thousands who have stopped to talk to him, even if it costs him more effort with the Asians. "Even if I had seen her pass (Denise) I would not recognize her. They are all the same. " But he will never forget one very special person. Actor Charlie Sheen recorded 'The Way' ('El Camino') under thedirection of his son, Emilio Estevez, and let himself be conquered by the stories of this pastor since 12 years. "He gave me a role in the movie and paid me 50 euros. I had to give one of my walking sticks," he jokes proudly.

    These are villages who would have died long ago without the steady trickle of pilgrims. So Ruben Merino and the rest of hoteliers are concerned about "a downturn that is being felt. Many people skip this track already." This is not is the option of Robin and Claudette Campbell, a couple in their fifties of Scottish origin. They take a break in El Ganso, end of this particular ground zero. They like to take care of themselves and pay, when possible, for a room instead of the shelters filled with bunks. They have heard of Denise, but are concerned about other things, such as changes in the way young people are doing the Camino. "Why run? Claudette wants to know. They get up at four in the morning so they can arrive first. All that, we already have it at home." At her side, the Munich-based Friedrich is more susceptible. "It is not easy to travel alone. The Government should make it safer. " Jose Gabino, his alberguero, reminds them that "this is not Kathmandu; here no one is alone anymore. " And yet, "it is as if the girl has evaporated."


    Denise Pikka Thiem (41 years, 1.62 tall and 50-53 kilos of weight) was last seen on April 5 on the streets of Astorga. The posters with 'missing' still remain in some hostels on the route Astorga- el Ganso that she wanted to walk on the day she disappeared.

    Up to 50 agents of the Guardia Civíl and dozens of neighbors in Astorga participated in the search. They were 'combing' hills, wells have been emptied and some marsh, hippie communes were visited ... In the last citizen search party (June 9) only two people participated. The Police insists: "We continue to look for new clues."

    270,000 Pilgrims are expected to complete the Camino de Santiago this year. There will be 33,000 more than in 2014. In June alone 37,000 pilgrims passed 13.6% more than a year ago. Of these, 71% are foreigners. US and Korea are the non-European countries that bring more tourists (behind Italy, France and Germany).



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    FAMILY FEARS 41-YEAR-OLD AMERICAN WOMAN WAS ABDUCTED WHILE HIKING

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...8/America.html


    Family fears 41-year-old American woman was abducted while hiking on popular Catholic pilgrimage route in Spain

    Denise Thiem, 41, was last seen on Easter Sunday, attempting the complete the 155-mile Camino de Santiago pilgrimage in northern Spain
    Her brother Cedric believes she was abducted, citing concerning messages from other women who have been stalked on the trail
    Just a few weeks after Thiem disappeared, two men attempted to abduct a woman jogging near the trail where Thiem is thought to have gone missing


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    Daily Mail mainly repeats old news and copies FOX info:

    Thiem was about three-quarters of the way done with the pilgrimage on Easter Sunday (April 5) - the last day she was seen.

    That morning, Thiem went to get breakfast with a fellow pilgrim, an Italian man, in the town of Astorga, followed by Mass.

    'After Mass, she went on her way and he went on his way,' her brother told Fox News.
    Up till now, it seemed that all traces of Denise were lost on the terrace before she went to mass. She would have announced her intention to go to mass in the church next to the Cathedral but it was unclear if in fact she did go. Apparently, both the Italian pilgrim and Denise did go to mass - did they go together? did they go to that same church?

    If only they had hiked to el Ganso together!
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    TOURIST DISAPPEARANCE: US WOMAN DENISE THIEM MISSING IN SPAIN


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    http://abcnews.go.com/US/tourist-dis...ry?id=32095884



    Denise Thiem, 41, was last seen in April having breakfast with a man in the Spanish town of Astorga before leaving him around noon, officials say. The day before she disappeared, she had reportedly made plans to continue walking the trail with another man from the pilgrimage, but it’s unclear whether they ever met up.

    “She's had a lot of experience traveling,” he brother said. “Everywhere you go there's Wi-Fi. It didn't make any sense that there's no communication whatsoever.”

    The U.S. embassy in Madrid, which is helping search, told ABC News, "The welfare of U.S. citizens is one of the Department's highest priorities."

    Hoping for answers, Cedric Thiem is meeting with U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., this week.


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    I wonder who reported this bit of news about the other man from the pilgrmage with whom she alledgedly would be walking. When the Italian pilgrim with whom she had coffee on the terrace was located, it was said that he was not able to help the police with new details. At that time, there was no mention of another man, the Italian pilgrim was the one they were desperate to find. So what little bird has whispered this news in someone's ears?

    Report of ABC does not bother too much with accuracy in detail: there was only one attempted kidnapping on the track (and this is disputed by some).

    I am still wondering what the added value is of the FBI, do they know and see everything and are they able to teleport to any corner of the earth, just like Santa?
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    Here's a website from the FBI - they have officers associated with major consulates abroad: https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/200...ational_060308

    Our jurisdiction doesn’t extend to non-terrorism related homicides, robberies, rapes, and muggings of Americans—these are usually handled by local authorities. But we can—and sometimes do—offer investigative or forensics assistance in these cases if asked.
    The family may just be trying to leave no stone unturned.

    It does seem she was most likely removed from the area, and it's sadly a matter of waiting until she's found. But to me, for someone looking to kidnap a female, a 40 year old pilgrim doesn't leap immediately to mind as an obvious victim: she's beyond the age of that kind of predatory sociopath's sexual interest, they are after young girls. Unlike other tourists, pilgrims are known travel very cheaply, without much cash because they share rooms; and they're obviously going to be savvy and self-confident, not timid like a girl who has never gone anywhere by herself. So I find it hard to see a motive.

    I don't think the examples of exposure/groping/harassment would be related to an outright kidnapping, those are petty efforts by local losers and I've encountered them in plenty of places. Actual kidnapping is a serious crime, the people who do it know they will go to jail and ruin their lives if caught, they have to have sufficient motive to make the risk worthwhile.

    I am also curious about the differing statements about when and precisely where she was last seen, and what her plans were at that time - it seems to me that is very important information to nail down.

    This is from the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/wo...pain.html?_r=0

    "She had breakfast with an Italian pilgrim and then went to Mass and watched a religious procession with him, before they parted ways around noon."

    I'm curious why they didn't continue walking together at that point, at least to the beginning of the trail - I assume he wanted to walk faster than she did, since he had further to go but it would be normal to ensure they both were on the right track out of town before he said goodbye and moved on ahead.

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    FBI and U.S embassy will do nothing. Well, yes, public relations. Spanish detectives are already investigating everything FBI could investigate. The problem is that there are no clues, not for Spanish, not for FBI.

    It is a really puzzling case, and I do not know what to think.

    Despite some minor incidents and many rumors, the Camino, the Caminos, are much safer than any city, European or American. Millions of pilgrims over the years and not a murder or a rape or a serious fight. I am very sensitive and I get alert about the nationalist defenses, and the attempt to protect economic interests, but in this case, it is true.

    All that suffered by pilgrims over ten years, is suffered by tourists in a week in a big city.

    But the truth is that Denise did not appear, and the possibility of foul play is increasing every day.
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    I know a few people who have done the Camino, and they say that people talk with one, walk several miles with another, and the next day say goodbye and continue with others. They eat with Peter and have dinner with Paul, and never see them again.

    They remember many people when they see pictures, but they can say very few details of each of them. Very, very superficial relations.
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    FAMILY OF WOMAN WHO DISAPPEARED IN SPAIN BAFFLED

    Cedric Thiem interviewed by Fox News


    http://video.foxnews.com/v/433128435...#sp=show-clips


    Nothing new in this clip fot thoise who have followed the case, and the Fox guy in Madrid obviously knows little about it, but this is good to spread awareness and keep Denise's disappearance in the news.

    Cedric and friends of Denise, you rock!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satchie View Post
    Here's a website from the FBI - they have officers associated with major consulates abroad: https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/200...ational_060308



    The family may just be trying to leave no stone unturned.

    It does seem she was most likely removed from the area, and it's sadly a matter of waiting until she's found. But to me, for someone looking to kidnap a female, a 40 year old pilgrim doesn't leap immediately to mind as an obvious victim: she's beyond the age of that kind of predatory sociopath's sexual interest, they are after young girls. Unlike other tourists, pilgrims are known travel very cheaply, without much cash because they share rooms; and they're obviously going to be savvy and self-confident, not timid like a girl who has never gone anywhere by herself. So I find it hard to see a motive.

    I don't think the examples of exposure/groping/harassment would be related to an outright kidnapping, those are petty efforts by local losers and I've encountered them in plenty of places. Actual kidnapping is a serious crime, the people who do it know they will go to jail and ruin their lives if caught, they have to have sufficient motive to make the risk worthwhile.

    I am also curious about the differing statements about when and precisely where she was last seen, and what her plans were at that time - it seems to me that is very important information to nail down.

    This is from the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/wo...pain.html?_r=0

    "She had breakfast with an Italian pilgrim and then went to Mass and watched a religious procession with him, before they parted ways around noon."

    I'm curious why they didn't continue walking together at that point, at least to the beginning of the trail - I assume he wanted to walk faster than she did, since he had further to go but it would be normal to ensure they both were on the right track out of town before he said goodbye and moved on ahead.
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    Thanks for the link. So the FBI is in it for assistance if asked.


    I read somewhere that Denise left Astorga together with the Italian pilgrim, but this may have been yet another rumor dating from before he was found and interviewed. I was surprised to read that they went to mass together (if they did), I thought she had decided to go to mass alone, and he'd be on his way. The story about the 'Englishman' with whom she was planning to walk, looks like another rumor. Astorga is a small town of 12.000 inhabitants. Why did this person not join Denise for breakfast or a coffee at the plaza? If he exists, IMHO he left early.


    If Denise met with foul play, IMHO it would have been very difficult for another pilgrim to pull this off and keep her hidden, either in Astorga or on the track to Rabanal. Assuming the worst, what would they do with a body? Drag it along in the open plains, hiding it in bushes or a pond, digging a grave with what? And all in time to get the next stamp in their pilgrim's passport? If it was a pilgrim who did her any harm, she would have been found by now.
    To me, the most likely perpetrator has a car, possibly an accomplice and they have left the area. I don't think they have this connection with the Camino that the locals have, local weirdos included.

    I disagree that Denise would have been beyond the age of any kidnapper's target. The woman who was attacked in Santa Catalina de Somoza was fifty (and there are cases of women in their nineties who have become targets of sexual assault by very young men).
    Besides, Denise is small, very slender and she would have been wearing sunglasses. Difficult to guess her age. If indeed she left Astorga in the afternoon without company IMHO she would have been targeted because she was alone, there was no one in sight, and she was tiny.

    I really would like to know why some doubt the story from the woman from Santa Catalina. To me this is in line with what we see happening in various parts of Europe. Vagabonds, adventurers from Eastern Europe, seasonal workers left behind and roaming about and working odd jobs and maybe joining those who steal copper from train tracks, cemeteries, gardens etc. Or something with drugs.
    LE doesn't really know who they are, and after a while they'll move to a different region and start all over. Ot they return home for a while. All this is on the downside of the Europe without borders and with free movement.

    Another option that I can think of is that Denise decided not to hike the track and took a ride instead - with the wrong person (s).

    Somehow there is always a vehicle in the scenarios that I think most likely.
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    LEÓN INTENSIFIES SECURITY OF ITS PILGRIMS WITH A SPECIAL PLAN


    The Guardia Civil increases alertness until September 30

    Diario de León
    http://www.diariodeleon.es/noticias/...al_990977.html


    The Guardia Civíl of León has launched the Safety Plan Camino de Santiago as it passes through the province of León with a special focus on vigilance in full to ensure the freedom and safety of all pilgrims on foot, bicycle or by other means of transport.

    This plan, which began yesterday and will end on September 30, reinforces the safety and security tasks that the Guardia Civíl performs regularly in the Camino de Santiago, since during the summer the number of pilgrims greatly increases on the route. Here, last April the American pilgrim Denise Thiem disappeared. Of her whereabouts nothing is known.

    The part of the Camino most used by pilgrims passing through the province of León is called the Camino Francés. It enters the province through the N-120 from Palencia, reaching the capital León by the N-601, continuing again next to the the N-120 to Astorga, then turning onto the LE-142 to Ponferrada through the Cruz de Ferro. From Ponferrada it runs parallel to the old N-VI to the Alto del Cebreiro. Therefore in the province of Leon about 85% of the Camino de Santiago runs through the territorial demarcation of the Guardia Civíl .

    Units of Public Safety and Traffic Division will be responsible for the implementation of the Camino Safety Plan, with the support of other specialties such as Seprona Corps, Gedex, Servicio Cinológico, Information, Judicial Police, SIR

    For the success of the plan, the Guardia Civíl will increase its presence in the various routes of the Camino de Santiago, as well as establishments that provide accommodation for pilgrims. Interviews with pilgrims, shelter workers and catering establishments will also be intensified to extend any help and information and detect problems in advance.

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    Have not read the whole thread, but assuming, someone has mentioned the book written by actress Shirley M, about that pilgrimage.
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    THREE MONTHS WITHOUT A TRACE OF DENISE

    The brother of the pilgrim who disappeared in Astorga does not lose hope and will continue searching for her

    La Voz de Galicia
    http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia...07G5P12991.htm


    When Denise Thiem, of 41 years of age, saw the film The Way (Martin Sheen, 2010) in the United States she decided to walk the Camino de Santiago. She mentioned this to her brother Cedric and the initial plan was to put on their backpacks together. It wasn't to be and now he cannot stop thinking that if he had accompanied her, she would not have evaporated without a trace. Today marks three months to the day after her mysterious disappearance. There is not a single trace and the investigation, in collaboration with the FBI, is stuck. "My greatest hope is that they find her safe and that she comes home," Cedric says. He has decided not to give up and continue to search tirelessly for his sister.

    In these three months, the investigations have failed to provide additional information to what was already known from the early hours of the disappearance. Denise Thiem, with dark hair and oriental features, was last seen in Astorga on April 5. The night before she slept in an albergue in the town in the province of León and the next day she had breakfast with an Italian pilgrim. The two of them chatted with two German pilgrims and everything points to it that after that the American woman continued her travels. To a British friend she had written in an email that she would sleep in Astorga and go to church the next day and then leave for the village of El Ganso, where she planned to spend the night. She never arrived there.

    The lack of news is having a devastating effect on the family and friends of Thiem. "This leaves you emotionally empty. There is so much we do not know that you do not know what to do. It saddens me and my imagination is in overdrive because anything is possible," Cedric says.

    What is clear to the brother of the missing pilgrim is that Denise did not leave voluntarily. "At first there were many theories. Some people suggested that perhaps she had found someone and just gone off with him, but that does not make sense," he says. Although Cedric spent time in Astorga collaborating in the search for his sister, he had to return to Phoenix (Arizona). However, from there he continues to coordinate new searches in the area of Astorga - the latest was in early June, and putting pressure on the Congress and the US Senate so that the case will not be forgotten. "I just want to make sure that the government is doing everything they can," he remarks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotr View Post
    Have not read the whole thread, but assuming, someone has mentioned the book written by actress Shirley M, about that pilgrimage.
    Shirley M is sóóóó last century.... how on earth did she manage to hike the Camino without smartphone, internet, wifi and specialized forums?
    I read HP Kerkeling's book, his camino dates from 2001 and at the time he counted himself lucky that he met another pilgrim who carried a hotel guide, a booklet made of real paper.

    Denise was inspired by the movie The Way:

    https://youtu.be/o5VZKWcgw6c

    Emilio Estevez and his crew from The Way mention Denise on their FB page
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-W...373570?fref=ts
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    I saw The Way, the father walks the camino in place of his son, who died at the beginning of hypothermia.

    It's so terrible for Denise's family, who don't know the outcome and so can't put this behind them and find peace, as in the film.

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