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    CA - Santa Clarita - Rogue Police Officers Arrested

    Aide to Kamala Harris, 2 others accused of running rogue police force
    Los Angeles Times
    May 6, 2015
    By Matt Hamilton


    "An aide to state Atty. Gen. Kamala D. Harris and two others are accused of operating a rogue police force that claimed to exist for more than 3,000 years and have jurisdiction in 33 states and Mexico, authorities said Tuesday.

    Brandon Kiel, David Henry and Tonette Hayes were arrested last week on suspicion of impersonating a police officer through their roles in the Masonic Fraternal Police Department, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department."

    More ...

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...505-story.html

    Of course the headlines would have one believe that one of the guys was Kamala Harris' right hand man ... he wasn't. The Los Angeles Office of the California Department Of Justice is filled with dozens of Deputy Attorney Generals. And, whatever he really was, he isn't anymore. Anyhow, interesting story, strange hijinks. Seems to be a rash of hobby cops these days.

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    Another report here with a good short video newscast:

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/...lice-officers/

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    The Washington Post has picked up on the story:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...nt-police-say/

    Nothing really new. I noticed that the police or sheriff seems to think that there are more people involved. They talk a little about the password protected website, which I visited earlier today.

    When I went to the Masonic Fraternal Police Department website I found one address listed for the organization.

    The address given was (as it was written) 289 Robertson Blvd. #414, Beverly, California 90211.

    So, of course I had to research that. Not only did they leave off the Hills part of Beverly Hills, which may have been an oversight, they also failed to say if it was North or South Robertson Blvd. However, I think that part was done on purpose. 289 S. Robertson is a mailbox express maildrop place, (and also a nail salon) and coincidently 289 North is a Masonic meeting place (#528). These guys are really cuckoo. I can hardly wait to find out more.

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    Here's the 'grandmaster' selling a supposed $1 million dollar ring with a starting bid of $0.5 million dollars:
    https://plus.google.com/100956418279...ts/2qs7A1EyhQv
    Another piece of jewelry for sale for $80K:
    https://plus.google.com/100956418279...ts/NhhxJKEPRan
    More on those involved:
    http://lawattstimes.com/index.php?op...=11&Itemid=126
    Maxine Waters received and accepted an award from them:
    http://www.lasentinel.net/index.php?...cal&Itemid=170
    Even though this is supposedly about a sheriff's office election, it turned into a Kamala Harris promo with Maxine Waters announcing that Tonette Hayes had invited Kamala Harris to speak at the event showed in the clip and it shows Brandon Kiel introducing Harris, so she can't claim that Kiel was some anonymous functionary and that she'd never heard of Hayes:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdLN...ature=youtu.be

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.b.nora View Post
    The Washington Post has picked up on the story:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...nt-police-say/

    Nothing really new. I noticed that the police or sheriff seems to think that there are more people involved. They talk a little about the password protected website, which I visited earlier today.

    When I went to the Masonic Fraternal Police Department website I found one address listed for the organization.

    The address given was (as it was written) 289 Robertson Blvd. #414, Beverly, California 90211.

    So, of course I had to research that. Not only did they leave off the Hills part of Beverly Hills, which may have been an oversight, they also failed to say if it was North or South Robertson Blvd. However, I think that part was done on purpose. 289 S. Robertson is a mailbox express maildrop place, (and also a nail salon) and coincidently 289 North is a Masonic meeting place (#528). These guys are really cuckoo. I can hardly wait to find out more.
    We were pondering how three people (or more) all seemed to have the same delusion last night before bed! What a strange story, eh!? Also, hubby said he would have been wearing a white robe or something instead of cop uniforms

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    Quote Originally Posted by time View Post
    We were pondering how three people (or more) all seemed to have the same delusion last night before bed! What a strange story, eh!? Also, hubby said he would have been wearing a white robe or something instead of cop uniforms
    These people are hilarious!!! I spent my morning over coffee, reading and viewing the links kindly provided by SpanishInquisition above.

    I was interested in the "Travis Kiel Honorary 33degree Puissant Award" given to Mike Davis, California State Assemblyman. I don't know yet if it has been given to other people, but Travis Kiel is a longtime high profile educator in Los Angeles and is Brandon Kiel's father. His mother Wilma is a well known long time Early Learning educator in the district as well.

    "The Thelma Jewel Crowe Legacy Award" given to Maxine Waters, US Congresswoman, was named for the mother of Tonette Crowe Henry. I have yet to determine what if anything made Thelma particularly noteworthy. She died in 2001.

    In the video at the Sheriff candidates meeting, Tonette is identified as "Political Clergy Council". In other places she is identified as Minister and Grand Matron. I am not sure what any of that means, maybe its all the same. And, yes, what a surprise, Brandon introduces Kamela Harris. On the video, he is identified as (being with) "Attorney General Exec Office". I am unclear if that event is the same as the meet the Sheriff Candidates or not. I will have to watch it again.

    In addition to the jewelry photos, David Henry's google page has many pictures of Beyonce and other scantily clad women.

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    Perhaps this 1997 Guardian article was the inspiration for their police force:

    https://plus.google.com/100956418279...ts/AR9EUdiJWaq

    "These Masons have one thing in common ... They are all policemen"

    If you click on his tiny picture at the top left, it will bring up all the pictures for your entertainment. May not be suitable for work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.b.nora View Post
    Perhaps this 1997 Guardian article was the inspiration for their police force:

    https://plus.google.com/100956418279...ts/AR9EUdiJWaq

    "These Masons have one thing in common ... They are all policemen"

    If you click on his tiny picture at the top left, it will bring up all the pictures for your entertainment. May not be suitable for work.
    I hate to say it, but I just don't get these guys (and gals). It's like a Masona Bling Ring or something! Mixed with, oh, I don't know, Amadeus or Anonymous...

    We Look Like You!
    https://plus.google.com/100956418279...18279825321537

    My dad was a Mason and almost none of this guys page looks familiar to me but they seem to seemlessly blend a Sabbatic Goat and Boobs with a little Jesus and Jewelry!
    Last edited by time; 05-07-2015 at 06:18 PM.

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    Too funny!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.b.nora View Post
    These people are hilarious!!! I spent my morning over coffee, reading and viewing the links kindly provided by SpanishInquisition above.

    I was interested in the "Travis Kiel Honorary 33degree Puissant Award" given to Mike Davis, California State Assemblyman. I don't know yet if it has been given to other people, but Travis Kiel is a longtime high profile educator in Los Angeles and is Brandon Kiel's father. His mother Wilma is a well known long time Early Learning educator in the district as well.

    "The Thelma Jewel Crowe Legacy Award" given to Maxine Waters, US Congresswoman, was named for the mother of Tonette Crowe Henry. I have yet to determine what if anything made Thelma particularly noteworthy. She died in 2001.

    In the video at the Sheriff candidates meeting, Tonette is identified as "Political Clergy Council". In other places she is identified as Minister and Grand Matron. I am not sure what any of that means, maybe its all the same. And, yes, what a surprise, Brandon introduces Kamela Harris. On the video, he is identified as (being with) "Attorney General Exec Office". I am unclear if that event is the same as the meet the Sheriff Candidates or not. I will have to watch it again.

    In addition to the jewelry photos, David Henry's google page has many pictures of Beyonce and other scantily clad women.
    Stop Calling!
    "Masonic Fraternal Police will not support THE REQUEST TO WEAR CIVILIAN BODY CAMERAS stop calling!!!"
    https://twitter.com/RevTonetteHenry/...339648/photo/1

    Sorry, I'm having a moment ~


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    The headline on this thread is very misleading. These people are not police officers at all. They are not rogue officers, they are criminals. It is a crime to impersonate a police officer. They are fake, not rogue.

    Police officers and their families endure endless lies and disrespect, and it has become the 'in" thing to do in the last 8 years. The last thing we need is the implication that these criminals were police officers gone bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGIRecovered View Post
    The headline on this thread is very misleading. These people are not police officers at all. They are not rogue officers, they are criminals. It is a crime to impersonate a police officer. They are fake, not rogue.

    Police officers and their families endure endless lies and disrespect, and it has become the 'in" thing to do in the last 8 years. The last thing we need is the implication that these criminals were police officers gone bad.
    I see what you mean, but I think it was not meant in that way

    http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/rogue

    I'm sure a mod would change it

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    I think a MOD should change it. They are NOT rogue police officers. They are rogue political aides. Very different scenario. The cops have enough bad press as it is, imo.
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    The esteemed Los Angeles Times called it a 'rogue police department' in the HEADLINE of their first article, ergo use of the word "rogue". And besides, so far they are only accused of being imposters. Their neighbor thought they were real police. It hasn't been proven in a court of law that they aren't. At least they haven't killed anyone, and no one has said they did.

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    The Sacramento Bee writes:

    "Sheriff’s detectives believe the three were attempting to deceive the community about their status as law enforcement officials – “for a purpose yet to be determined,” adding that they believe there may be others associated with the rogue police organization.

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    “The attorney general has been concerned about these serious allegation from the point she was first briefed on the investigation,” spokesman David Beltran said. “Our office has been cooperating with investigators from the beginning and will continue to do so as the investigation unfolds.”

    Masonic grand masters continue to face serious safety concerns within their own jurisdictions and even from family members, says a note published on its website. The MFPD describes itself as more than 3,000 years old.

    “When asked what is the difference between The Masonic Fraternal Police Department and other Police Departments the answer is simple for us,” it states. “We were here first! We are born into this Organization our bloodlines go deeper then (sic) an application. This is more then (sic) a job it is an obligation.”

    A spokeswoman for the Masons’ “Grand Lodge of California” did not return a message seeking comment.


    Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-...#storylink=cpy

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