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    Laura Babcock: Dellen Millard & Mark Smich charged w/ Murder in the First Degree #2

    Toronto Police Service
    News Release

    Missing Woman Laura Babcock, 23
    Broadcast time: 13:06 Monday, July 16, 2012
    22 Division 416−808−2200

    The Toronto Police Service is requesting the public’s assistance locating a missing woman.
    Laura Babcock, 23, was last seen on Tuesday, June 26, 2012, at 9 p.m., in the Queen Street
    West/Roncesvalles Avenue area.
    She is described as white, 5'10", 150 lbs., with a thin build. She has brown eyes and long brown hair dyed blonde.
    Police are concerned for her safety. Anyone with information is asked to contact police at 416−808−2200, Crime Stoppers
    anonymously at 416−222−TIPS (8477), online at www.222tips.com, text TOR and your message to CRIMES (274637), or Leave A Tip on Facebook.
    Constable Wendy Drummond, Corporate Communications, for Detective Steve Woodhouse, 22 Division

    Updated 10 April, 2014

    Bosma murder suspect charged with killing missing woman, father
    Sandie Benitah, CP24.com
    Published Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:11PM EDT
    Last Updated Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:12PM EDT

    A suspect accused of kidnapping and killing an Ancaster family man now also stands accused of killing his own father and his ex-girlfriend.

    Dellen Millard, 28, who is in jail awaiting trial for the murder of Tim Bosma, was charged Wednesday with the first-degree murder of his father Wayne Millard and his former companion Laura Babcock, the Ontario Provincial Police has confirmed.

    Read more: http://www.cp24.com/news/bosma-murde...#ixzz2ygS2Hm1L
    Clairmont: Police believe body of accused Bosma killer's girlfriend was incinerated
    Hamilton Spectator -- By Susan Clairmont

    Homicide detectives believe Dellen Millard bought a gun illegally and used it to murder his father. And that he also murdered Laura Babcock and incinerated her body — just as he allegedly did with Tim Bosma.
    http://www.ourwindsor.ca/news-story/...s-incinerated/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamarind View Post
    I wish I shared your confidence sillybilly, but lets be fair many charges are laid based on presumption not fact. If charges were based on fact there would be no need for a trial. JMO
    Respectfully Tamarind how do you figure that? When someone is charged by LE for a crime, they have the legal right to fight the charges against them. Even something as trivial as a parking ticket can be fought in a court of law. Guilty people plead not guilty quite often and especially when it's a serious crime leading to a lengthy prison sentence. My opinion is the accused have plead not guilty because it is their only hope in heck of not having to spend the rest of their lives in a prison cell.

    We mustn't lose site of the fact the preliminary hearing has been bypassed and for a justifiable reason and I certainly have my doubt it was done away with to save money but more so just as the AG stated: “When this procedure is supported, it’s because there is good evidence that the person that is accused will be convicted.”

    Attorney General Madeleine Meilleur approved the decision to skip a preliminary hearing, suggesting the evidence will support the decision.

    Respectfully again Tamarind, I wish I could share your confidence in believing the accused are innocent of murdering three people along with destroying their loved ones rights to have them in their lives. ALL MOO.

    For the victims, life will be somewhat better once justice is served and the murderers are handed down their much deserved sentences. There will always be a huge void in the hearts of their loved one who, just as the murdered, they did not deserve this pure evilness which was forced upon them. ALL MOO.

    Justice will prevail and we can once again be grateful our Canadian justice system worked. We just need to have patience and know the murderer(s) won't be getting on with their lives outside of jail/prison walls ever again. And that's JMHO. I'm keeping faith.
    Rest in peace Tori, Tim and Jeremy.

    "On May 6th, the devil led the vilest form of evil down my driveway and it smiled at me before it took Tim away." Good always triumphs over evil. Keep the faith, justice will prevail. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by swedie View Post
    Respectfully Tamarind how do you figure that? When someone is charged by LE for a crime, they have the legal right to fight the charges against them. Even something as trivial as a parking ticket can be fought in a court of law. Guilty people plead not guilty quite often and especially when it's a serious crime leading to a lengthy prison sentence. My opinion is the accused have plead not guilty because it is their only hope in heck of not having to spend the rest of their lives in a prison cell.

    We mustn't lose site of the fact the preliminary hearing has been bypassed and for a justifiable reason and I certainly have my doubt it was done away with to save money but more so just as the AG stated: “When this procedure is supported, it’s because there is good evidence that the person that is accused will be convicted.”

    Attorney General Madeleine Meilleur approved the decision to skip a preliminary hearing, suggesting the evidence will support the decision.

    Respectfully again Tamarind, I wish I could share your confidence in believing the accused are innocent of murdering three people along with destroying their loved ones rights to have them in their lives. ALL MOO.

    For the victims, life will be somewhat better once justice is served and the murderers are handed down their much deserved sentences. There will always be a huge void in the hearts of their loved one who, just as the murdered, they did not deserve this pure evilness which was forced upon them. ALL MOO.

    Justice will prevail and we can once again be grateful our Canadian justice system worked. We just need to have patience and know the murderer(s) won't be getting on with their lives outside of jail/prison walls ever again. And that's JMHO. I'm keeping faith.
    agreeing to disagree...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamarind View Post
    Obviously someone (not the people involved) have said this. I still maintain it is ONE source unless you have any links to another source(s). The police were given information by SL. SL got information from an unnamed friend.

    So SL only referred to one friend of LB's who he spoke to. What about all the other friends he and reporters spoke to and have spoken to since? More importantly how about the friends who spoke to LE but have remained quiet? Just because everything didn't get put in print, doesn't mean that information doesn't exist does it? MOO.

    Those close to Babcock, 23, knew about her deteriorating mental health months before she vanished in early July 2012 — before accused triple murderer Dellen Millard and his friend, Mark Smich, were ever charged with her murder.

    The Star spoke to nearly a dozen people who knew Babcock best, tracing her life, her tragic struggle and the final moments before she was gone — as well as what they say police did and did not do to find her.


    http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/20...or_police.html
    Rest in peace Tori, Tim and Jeremy.

    "On May 6th, the devil led the vilest form of evil down my driveway and it smiled at me before it took Tim away." Good always triumphs over evil. Keep the faith, justice will prevail. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by swedie View Post


    So SL only referred to one friend of LB's who he spoke to. What about all the other friends he and reporters spoke to and have spoken to since? More importantly how about the friends who spoke to LE but have remained quiet? Just because everything didn't get put in print, doesn't mean that information doesn't exist does it? MOO.
    Doesn't mean that it does exist either. Maybe they had nothing of value to contribute. JMO

    Quote Originally Posted by swedie View Post
    Those close to Babcock, 23, knew about her deteriorating mental health months before she vanished in early July 2012 — before accused triple murderer Dellen Millard and his friend, Mark Smich, were ever charged with her murder.


    Mental health problems can make people say and do very odd things.

    Quote Originally Posted by swedie View Post
    The Star spoke to nearly a dozen people who knew Babcock best, tracing her life, her tragic struggle and the final moments before she was gone — as well as what they say police did and did not do to find her.
    A dozen people who may not have much else to say other than about LB's state of mind or her dog. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamarind View Post
    agreeing to disagree...
    Not sure what part you disagree with, care to clarify so I can be of some assistance?
    Rest in peace Tori, Tim and Jeremy.

    "On May 6th, the devil led the vilest form of evil down my driveway and it smiled at me before it took Tim away." Good always triumphs over evil. Keep the faith, justice will prevail. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamarind View Post
    Doesn't mean that it does exist either. Maybe they had nothing of value to contribute. JMO



    Mental health problems can make people say and do very odd things.



    A dozen people who may not have much else to say other than about LB's state of mind or her dog. JMO
    Well I assume for all these friends to come forward, to share what they know of their dear friend, there must have been something of great value to share with LE to eventually connect the dots.

    After all look at all the information we've been privy to thus far. Who shared all that information? In one interview with TR, he claimed she seemed quite normal when he spoke with her. Maybe there are those people who spoke and only went on rumours blowing things out of proportion about certain issues. MOO.
    Rest in peace Tori, Tim and Jeremy.

    "On May 6th, the devil led the vilest form of evil down my driveway and it smiled at me before it took Tim away." Good always triumphs over evil. Keep the faith, justice will prevail. .

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    swedie #491 Thread DM+MS

    Very interesting and thank you Matou.

    Ann Brocklehurst ‏@AnnB03 2h2 hours ago
    Weird. Target trial dates for Wayne Millard and Laura Babcock murders are apparently September and October 2015. Awaiting confirmation

    Ann Brocklehurst ‏@AnnB03 2h2 hours ago
    .@crazydutchie Yes, on one level, it seems it has to be wrong. But on another level it sort of makes sense

    Ann Brocklehurst ‏@AnnB03 2h2 hours ago
    .@crazydutchie I have never believed there will be more than one trial

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    It's been over three years. RIP Laura. Justice is coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamarind View Post
    Doesn't mean that it does exist either. Maybe they had nothing of value to contribute. JMO

    Mental health problems can make people say and do very odd things.

    A dozen people who may not have much else to say other than about LB's state of mind or her dog. JMO
    Isn't LB's state of mind and her dog important, given that she disappeared?

    Not everyone that has a mental health problem says and does strange things. For instance, people with fibromyalgia or Lyme Disease often suffer crushing mental health problems because of their illness, but that does not mean they are out on the streets doing the funky chicken. Mental health issues manifest themselves in many different ways. Everybody deals with challenges differently.


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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    It's been over three years. RIP Laura. Justice is coming.
    Amen.

    It won't be long now before her loved ones find out what happened to her and DM is given a life sentence in prison for her murder. MOO.
    Rest in peace Tori, Tim and Jeremy.

    "On May 6th, the devil led the vilest form of evil down my driveway and it smiled at me before it took Tim away." Good always triumphs over evil. Keep the faith, justice will prevail. .

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    Both Millard and Smich are pleading not guilty to the murder of Babcock, which occurred on or around July 3 and 4, 2012. Further details cannot yet be revealed due to a temporary publication ban. They were charged in April 2014.
    ............snip

    There is no trial date yet scheduled for the Laura Babcock case. It will likely be late 2016 or early 2017.

    http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2015...cock-case.html

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    This case is going direct to trial!!

    Direct indictment issued in Laura Babcock murder case

    http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2015...cock-case.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    This case is going direct to trial!!

    Direct indictment issued in Laura Babcock murder case

    http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2015...cock-case.html

    Maybe the prosecution is going to avoid any cross questioning at a pre-lim in the hope they can sway a jury with words and whatever they consider to be evidence at the trial. Some preliminary hearings have been known to expose weaknesses in the case. Bypassing that may help if case is reliant on the crowns created version of events. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamarind View Post
    Maybe the prosecution is going to avoid any cross questioning at a pre-lim in the hope they can sway a jury with words and whatever they consider to be evidence at the trial. Some preliminary hearings have been known to expose weaknesses in the case. Bypassing that may help if case is reliant on the crowns created version of events. Just a thought.
    They wouldn't have approved a DI if the evidence was weak.

    I smell roast goose!

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