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4 A. Well, the -- part of the items in the box included
5 this doll that was wrapped in bondage-type wrappings
6 with rope. It also depicts a gag in the mouth. And
7 then a rope around the neck attached to the PVC pipe
8 that would a symbol of hanging someone.
9 Q. Now, these bindings on this Barbie doll type doll, are
10 they similar or identical to the bindings that Josie
11 Otero had on her when she was discovered?
12 A. They're very similar to the same bindings that we
13 found on Josie's body at the time.
14 Q. And what I mean by that, is that they're in the
15 identical locations, that's how she was bound?
16 A. Yes, that's correct.
17 Q. On the wrists, around the knees, around the waist,
18 around the ankles?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. And gagged and hanging by a rope?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. To a sewer pipe?
23 A. Correct.
24 Q. Now, Rader actually took this little doll here, took
25 clothes off, and actually took the time to draw in
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1 pubic hair; is that correct?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. And he told you he drew that in?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. And he also drew maybe some eyelashes, spent some time
6 of getting this ready so it would appear to be just
7 like Josie was?
8 A. Yes, he personalized the item.
9 Q. Now, this also found by the task force in the files in
10 his office there in Park City in the compliance
11 officer -- office that he had.
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. And this here is what?
14 A. This is notes about the occurrences that occurred
15 during his murder of the Otero family.
16 Q. And, again, he took these notes and then prepared the
17 story that he wanted to tell about killing the Otero
18 family?
19 A. That's correct.
20 Q. Now, again, also in his notes there -- in his various
21 writings, because he had a lot of writings, did he
22 not?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. And in there he had what was the determined an AFLV.
25 He liked little acronyms, didn't he?
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1 A. Yes, he did.
2 Q. He liked to shorten things up?
3 A. That's correct.
4 Q. Like he used -- what was SBT, if you can recall?
5 A. Sparky Big Time. Sparky, being an erection.
6 Q. Now, after this -- it's AFLV, it said Afterlife
7 Concept of Victim. What was this all about in his
8 writings?
4 A. Well, the -- part of the items in the box included
5 this doll that was wrapped in bondage-type wrappings
6 with rope. It also depicts a gag in the mouth. And
7 then a rope around the neck attached to the PVC pipe
8 that would a symbol of hanging someone.
9 Q. Now, these bindings on this Barbie doll type doll, are
10 they similar or identical to the bindings that Josie
11 Otero had on her when she was discovered?
12 A. They're very similar to the same bindings that we
13 found on Josie's body at the time.
14 Q. And what I mean by that, is that they're in the
15 identical locations, that's how she was bound?
16 A. Yes, that's correct.
17 Q. On the wrists, around the knees, around the waist,
18 around the ankles?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. And gagged and hanging by a rope?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. To a sewer pipe?
23 A. Correct.
24 Q. Now, Rader actually took this little doll here, took
25 clothes off, and actually took the time to draw in
JANESE M. PALMER, CSR, RPR
OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
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1 pubic hair; is that correct?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. And he told you he drew that in?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. And he also drew maybe some eyelashes, spent some time
6 of getting this ready so it would appear to be just
7 like Josie was?
8 A. Yes, he personalized the item.
9 Q. Now, this also found by the task force in the files in
10 his office there in Park City in the compliance
11 officer -- office that he had.
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. And this here is what?
14 A. This is notes about the occurrences that occurred
15 during his murder of the Otero family.
16 Q. And, again, he took these notes and then prepared the
17 story that he wanted to tell about killing the Otero
18 family?
19 A. That's correct.
20 Q. Now, again, also in his notes there -- in his various
21 writings, because he had a lot of writings, did he
22 not?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. And in there he had what was the determined an AFLV.
25 He liked little acronyms, didn't he?
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1 A. Yes, he did.
2 Q. He liked to shorten things up?
3 A. That's correct.
4 Q. Like he used -- what was SBT, if you can recall?
5 A. Sparky Big Time. Sparky, being an erection.
6 Q. Now, after this -- it's AFLV, it said Afterlife
7 Concept of Victim. What was this all about in his
8 writings?