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    IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    In Memory of Elizabeth Collins and Lyric Cook



    "Our hearts and prayers go out to the families and friends of those precious little girls. The Black Hawk County Sheriff's Office pledges vigilance in our pursuit of those responsible and will extend every resource to concluding this case so that justice may prevail."
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    LE hasn't stated that 7 bridges was a dumping ground, to my knowledge, have they? If they were shot or stabbed, and there was a distinct lack of blood in the soil around them, then that would show that it was not the murder site. But if they were strangled, they probably wouldn't know for sure.

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    I think it was just implied by a reporter that was either close to the scene or close to the scene, I can't remember now.

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    They've never stated either way that I'm aware of, though I thought some of what they did say implied there was no other crime scene.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeeze View Post
    Right, I think it was the Jane Vellez Mitchell or Nancy Grace reporter who said that.

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    Yep!

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...6/ijvm.01.html

    JON LIEBERMAN, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Yes, Jane. Well, first of all, thoughts and prayers go out to this family for this terrible loss. Police can`t say it, but this is a double murder investigation at this point.

    I`ve been talking to police sources for the past 24 hours or so, and they stress to me that they have a lot of information, but the reason why they are not releasing much of it is because much it`s information that only the killer or killers would know, and they do not want to jeopardize the investigation.

    That said, my sources tell me the following, which we can report: No. 1, bodies were not found, according to my sources, smack dab next to each other. They were found about 40 to 50 feet next to each other.

    The second key point is the theory right now is that this was the dump site. That they are looking for the primary murder scene. In other words, where the bodies were found is not where these two little girls were killed.


    I do take investigative reports with a grain of salt...however SOMEONE (whomever their "source is") had obviously gotten close enough to the crime scene to know they were found a distance apart.

    Also, by stating they were looking for the primary crime scene makes me think there was NOT evidence at the scene to match an obvious COD (say...no blood in the area, but had gunshot wounds - or something like that).

    I guess I kind of assumed that for this person to be close enough to the scene, they likely had some sort of authority, as LE isn't going to let anyone else back there.

    I guess, for me, I sort of deduced SOME sort of validity to the reports because I would think the first assumption would have been that they were brought there alive and killed right there. Something made someone say this wasn't the spot they were killed...and I can't think of a reason to assume this without some evidence to support that...kwim?

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    IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, and Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    Please continue here for Elizabeth and Lyric

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    Thank you for starting a new thread.

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    I'm confused. The beginning of this thread is from 2014????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeeze View Post
    LE hasn't stated that 7 bridges was a dumping ground, to my knowledge, have they? If they were shot or stabbed, and there was a distinct lack of blood in the soil around them, then that would show that it was not the murder site. But if they were strangled, they probably wouldn't know for sure.
    LE has never stated either way. They are also keeping the cause of death (if known) secret.

    I'm not so sure blood would survive for long in the environment. It was a very hot summer, ideal for rapid decomposition. So an absence of blood just means they didn't find it, not that it wasn't ever there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    I'm confused. The beginning of this thread is from 2014????
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    The info about 7 Bridges being a dumping ground was never mentioned by anyone else, nor was it repeated by Lieberman on later occasions. That leads me to believe the info was incorrect. JMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marilynilpa View Post
    The info about 7 Bridges being a dumping ground was never mentioned by anyone else, nor was it repeated by Lieberman on later occasions. That leads me to believe the info was incorrect. JMO.
    I think it depends on the definition of dumping ground. Obviously the bodies were found there, so in that sense it was a dumping ground. The question is whether the phrase 'dumping ground' excludes any place where the assault and/or murder of the victim also took place.

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    There is also that outside chance that they were actually able to get the insider info about the murder site not being at Seven Bridges, but LE will neither confirm nor deny it as they are trying to keep this info under wraps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grainne Dhu View Post
    I think it depends on the definition of dumping ground. Obviously the bodies were found there, so in that sense it was a dumping ground. The question is whether the phrase 'dumping ground' excludes any place where the assault and/or murder of the victim also took place.
    Lieberman referred to it as a dump site, and stated LE was looking for the primary murder scene. To me, that implies the girls were killed elsewhere and dumped at 7 Bridges.

    IMO his comment is unsubstantiated and I do not feel this was just a dump site. JMO

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