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  1. #16
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    Wow - what a strange story!

    Wonder if the guy had a criminal record/was on the run and knew he'd never get a passport... or US citizenship? Why else would anyone go to all that trouble...?

    And how did he know (or at least suspect enough to make arrangements..) that he was going to die? Why both make plans for travel AND your own funeral?

    Maybe he was a witness in some terrible crime.. a spy... a killer...

    Gosh. So intriguing.
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    Dylan claims he hung out with Michael all the time yet when he asked him about the reference...it appears they were not together for those two weeks.

    In 2000, the company was a start up ISP and Michael's desk was a cardboard box according to Dylan. The photo shows something entirely different with the caption: Photo of Michael de Bourcier c2000

    I find it strange the police (and subsequently the PI) don't know where this person is buried if it only takes a phone call. The funeral service company may not tell Dylan (which again is odd because it is not a problem in the US for anyone to be given that info), but LE should have easy access.

    I am finding a few discrepancies in Dylan's account of things. This sounds more like a made for TV movie or a series than an actual false identity case.
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    Actually -- if you look at the office picture, it seems very 'professional'. doesn't it? Perfectly lit, no glare, not a thing out of place anywhere.

    And looking at Dylan's work history and various projects... this *could* be a stunt.
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    The EXIF information on the photo shows the date it was taken as 7/6/2001 at 8:52am. The camera was a KODAK DC4800 ZOOM DIGITAL CAMERA which would have been capable of a photo like this.
    The attributed copyright year, on the article is wrong.

    Google image search shows this photo in much smaller form, on several websites.

    Tin Eye matches it to a site in NZ that was Crawled on 2010-09-08
    http://www.targetpest.co.nz/PestCont...ialOffers.html

    I wonder where these sites got it from.

    With the site Yoda found, clearly this is a real case but the photo being used like stock art is weird.
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    Thank-you jaunty-girl for the pic info. He doesn't look very obese to me in the pic, yet when he passed away 10 or so months later, he's described as morbidly obese.

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    This reminds me of the Lori Ruff case.
    Media thread for Abby and Libby.


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    So many things about this don't add up.........
    Six-year-old Shannon Sherrill disappeared from her front yard in Thorntown, Indiana in October, 1986. Someone knows where she is......

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyL View Post
    good find - thanks Yoda

    kinda torpedos my theory

    he wasn't what I would consider morbidly obese but maybe he had gained more weight before his death or the photos could be a bit deceiving
    Morbidly obese used to mean if you were 100lbs overweight. Now they use BMI and >40 is considered MO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Dylan claims he hung out with Michael all the time yet when he asked him about the reference...it appears they were not together for those two weeks.

    In 2000, the company was a start up ISP and Michael's desk was a cardboard box according to Dylan. The photo shows something entirely different with the caption: Photo of Michael de Bourcier c2000

    I find it strange the police (and subsequently the PI) don't know where this person is buried if it only takes a phone call. The funeral service company may not tell Dylan (which again is odd because it is not a problem in the US for anyone to be given that info), but LE should have easy access.

    I am finding a few discrepancies in Dylan's account of things. This sounds more like a made for TV movie or a series than an actual false identity case.
    That photo...I have a very hard time believing in it. I've worked at/been around "start up ISPs" in the mid and late 90s. The cardboard box desk sounds way more likely than anything going on in that photo (which I agree looks like stock/ad art). Things you don't see at a small tech startup: ties, *old-fashioned paper Rolodexes* (!?), a blindingly bright desk lamp right next to someone's monitor, things neat and tidy with just a touch of "realistic" mess, etc. Not only do I not believe that's a picture of the missing guy, I don't believe it's a "real" picture of anyone. It looks like an ad.


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    Hey everyone.

    Dylan Reibling here - I'm glad to hear that there is some interest in my story. I'm hoping that if I can spread the word and get some attention, it might result in some new leads for the case. And yes, it is a real case. The CBC shortened the story quite a bit to fit within the half-hour, so there are many details that were left out. I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have.

    I guess the first thing I should say is that the picture is real and the office is real. Here are some more photos from that space. I haven't published them because they feature people other than Mike.

    dcp_6093.jpg
    dcp_6413.jpg


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    Some other info:

    1) I wouldn't have called Mike morbidly obese. He was overweight, but i wouldn't have ever called him obese. It is hard to tell from that one photograph, because it makes him look less heavy than he was. But I don't think morbidly obese is the right descriptor for him.

    2) They didn't cover this in the CBC story, but the ISP that Mike and I worked for (Velocet Communications) got bought out in early 2002. Mike and I both got laid off shortly thereafter (I think it was March or April 2002). So most of our correspondence over the passport happened on the phone or over email.

    3) Due to privacy laws here in Canada, the funeral company can't release burial arrangements with anyone other than next of kin. I'm currently working on obtaining that information, but it isn't as easy as you'd think.

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    Hello dr and welcome to WS.

    Have you managed to narrow down where 'Mike' was from? Canada? Somewhere else?

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    Hi there, Dylan. Welcome to WS. I hope you won't mind a pile of questions -- it's kind of what we do.

    What I'm wondering is -

    * Have the police not run his prints? Dental records?

    * How'd they figure out he was not who he said he was, exactly?

    * How did you obtain his death certificate?

    * Where was 'Mike' planning on going?

    I'm wondering if he was possibly in witness protection. Fake identity, an apparent 'premonition' of his own death (had someone tracked him down?), and his wanting to leave the country just before he died.

    Did he have a history of heart disease? If he was told he was sick enough to need an imminent funeral plan, I'm really surprised he'd be also be planning to travel. Perhaps his intended destination might be a clue.

    * I'm assuming there was an autopsy. If you can get a death cert, you could probably get hold of that report also?
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    I appreciate the questions! This is the first time I've had to look into something like this, so I'm still figuring things out as I go along.

    The original police detective on the case has retired, so it has made things a bit more muddled. At first, I assumed that the police had run his fingerprints and come up with nothing. However, I recently spoke to a police detective that looked at the file and his opinion is that it wasn't determined to be a false identity until the file moved on to the coroner's office and they tried to find a next-of-kin. By that point, it may have been too late to fingerprint the body. I'm working on getting details from the coroner's report, but I have to cut through a lot of red tape. I'll keep you posted, as that info might be coming shortly.

    I obtained a "short form" death certificate. Those are easily attainable in Ontario. But it contains no information on cause of death.

    I remember distinctly that Mike was planning on teaching English overseas. Specifically, he wanted to teach Business English in Germany. I think the money was better than teaching English in Korea or something like that, but that's just something I speculated on at the time.

    I've wondered if he was in witness protection, as well. But I don't know if that would come out in the case of his death?

    I don't think he had a history of heart disease. He was overweight, sure. But I never worried about his health or heard him complain of any ailments.

    I recently made a trip to his alleged high school - where he told me he went to school, and where the police said his high school diploma was from. The principal confirmed that no one with his name ever attended a school in that district. I also did a 10-year visual search of all of the high school graduates around the time he should have graduated and didn't find anyone that matched his description. I did a 10-year search of the local newspaper birth announcements and also found no one with his last name.

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    Wow. Was there a funeral and did anyone who knew Mike attend to be be able to identify his body? One thing popped out at me. Mike looks older in the pic than Dylan would have been. Possibly, he was listening to Dylan then coming up with the same life experiences. An experienced con artist. I'd be more worried that the body was really the guy who was claiming to be Mike.

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