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    Quote Originally Posted by Brainy View Post
    Forget the isotope results. llija looks nothing like Lyle.

    I have always believed that if I saw Lyle's picture, I would know immediately that it was him. He had very distinct features that are easily identifiable. Unfortunately, there has never even been anything clos... yet! (staying hopeful!)
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    What? It's not as if he looks nothing like him at all. There really is no need to be so rude about someone's suggestions.
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    Pretty sure indeed Lyle was part African American, say 25 percent.

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    My thoughts on LS

    I will add my 2 cents...

    1) Native American blood. Perhaps half Native/half White. I have friends who are N.A. (Or partially) and LS has similar facial features. To me, he is *so clearly* Native American blood.

    2) College Educated, or some college, at least.

    Perhaps dropped out before graduating. Remember the 90's were an affluent time in American history. Tuition has since 3x or 4x as much, but college was more affordable in the 90's (sad but true...and I'm sorry millennials)

    3) I think he read the Joyce Carol Oates book, and the name stuck. He used it as a reference because of the suicide in the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daphne1972 View Post
    Pretty sure indeed Lyle was part African American, say 25 percent.
    Really? I don’t see that at all. Native American, and Caucasian is what I see.
    Lyle, you are driving us nuts!!!
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    I was reading this https://whokilledwho.org/2015/05/09/...f-lyle-stevik/ Article and someone commented that he/she thought he was Metis (french word - I don't know how to type the accent), which means : mixed native american & European settlers in CANADA.

    I quick google search brought up some pictures that ...honestly I could see a resemblance. I still think he is Native American, or 50/50 White/N.A.

    ALSO, interesting fact: Native American people have all of their dentistry paid for *for free* by the government of Canada, it's just one of the benefits of being Native American in this country (I'm so jealous!) I'm not sure about orthodontia, I will have to ask my friend.

    But perhaps if his teeth were bad enough, orthodontia would be paid for as well (at the recommendation of his dentist? Not sure if I'm grasping at straws, but I'm trying to draw a conclusion)

    Just adding that b/c people comment about his near-perfect teeth so much, which is a distinguishing feature for a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotr View Post
    Medical, law, dental students may travel for temporary work-study placements in a variety of settings and later for employment opportunities.imo, speculation.
    These things come to mind, speculation, imo.
    Pale skin ( studying), clean, good teeth, pen in pocket, considerate/responsible to hotel ( left note/ paid bill ) knowledge of correct "termination method" (cloth under chin, pillows ect)
    I agree. He literally had no other scars, he must not have been much of a sportsmen...

    Re: the uniball pen left in his pocket. Same kind that my dad uses (a veterinarian), and always has on him so he can *write stuff down.* though I doubt he would be a veterinary student as my dad's pretty beat up from working with animals. although that could explain the work boots? Could they do some kind of analysis on his boots, like the dirt on his boots, to see where he had been traveling?

    How can he not have any other scars...If he was raised in Canada, where are his hockey scars?

    How do I write this so I don't get sued...In the summer of 2001, I lived in Chicago, IL and at the job I working - had access to *information regarding medical residents* not just in Chicago, but medical residents throughout the US (am I gonna get sued yet?)

    Wow, some interesting information...one individual (though he was from Russia, so not "Lyle") would up and leave his medical residency. Be gone for weeks/months. Would just "disappear" . Wouldn't tell *anyone* where he was going. (I guess he just got fed up of the work load). I mean, I never saw a photo of this resident (and if I did, like I would remember it 16 years later...) That's all I can I write - don't wanna be sued - but I happened to be there the day they were discussing his situation with a residency director.

    "Lyle" kinda/sorta fits the profile of a medical student or medical resident, IMO. Pale. Highly sensitive individual: the first room is *too noisy* & then blocks out the light with a bedspread in the second room (highly sensitive people need a dark, quiet room to sleep in). He fits the profile of a high achiever because he was so conscientious: paying for the room, cleaning up his room (taking out the trash?), cleaning himself up. He dotted the i's and crossed the t's. Just a guess, he spent a lot of time "putting his affairs in order" ...perhaps that's what he spent his last couple of days doing.

    I surmise that he didn't let the maid clean his room Sunday b/c he may have already been setting up/practicing for the suicide. He didn't let her in & was rude....I'm guessing he had something to hide.

    Regarding the maid confessing *now* (15 years later?) she heard voices on that Sunday, what an odd thing to say? I'm not sure what to think of it...don't really believe her, but at the same time, given the tragicness of the situation, it is a comforting thought to imagine "Lyle" had a friend/lover/whatever there on his last day (but because she didn't tell the police initially, I kinda doubt it's true...I just know that personally I would say any tidbit of information to the police immediately, not wait 15 years to admit something).

    Is it possible to check *students who would have dropped out - of either medical school (osteopathic or allopathic programs), or residency programs, in the prior months? and/or were dismissed or fired from their programs? (If he was fired or dropped out - Sept would certainly be a depressing time for him...then add the Sept 11 tragedy) Could he not afford medical school any longer, or was he being cut off financially? How accurate are those isotope analysis? Is he definitely from the United States? (If so, then he wouldn't be that Russian resident, who had "vanished" mysteriously from numerous programs & was being let go in summer of 2001).

    I don't want to send anyone down the wrong path, because I could be completely wrong, but those are some of my thoughts. He just has a lot of attributes of my doctor friends; extremely clean and neat, and OCD ish. Clean clothes. Clean room. Perfect teeth.

    I still do question if he was murdered though...just b/c *no one* identifies him....that's so *weird*

    Granted, this story is not well circulated at all. I lived in WA state for two years and never heard of it.

    Also, I read an article that speculated that surmised that "Lyle" was not well read. That seems like a stretch. Even the fact that he picked up the local paper is a bit telling to me...curious people like to read, even just local news. If he was unread, he would just watch boring TV...

    A bit of a morbid thought, but was he reading the local paper knowing that he would *soon be in it* as a suicide victim? Those r my opinions....

    Plus, his suicide was so clean & neat ...like a doctor would do it. Yet no prescription drugs to link him to any name.

    They should make a YouTube video on "My last Days" ...what this suicide victim story needs is more circulation, in my opinion, then it will be solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by formerreddingrunner View Post
    I was reading this https://whokilledwho.org/2015/05/09/...f-lyle-stevik/ Article and someone commented that he/she thought he was Metis (french word - I don't know how to type the accent), which means : mixed native american & European settlers in CANADA.

    I quick google search brought up some pictures that ...honestly I could see a resemblance. I still think he is Native American, or 50/50 White/N.A.

    ALSO, interesting fact: Native American people have all of their dentistry paid for *for free* by the government of Canada, it's just one of the benefits of being Native American in this country (I'm so jealous!) I'm not sure about orthodontia, I will have to ask my friend.

    But perhaps if his teeth were bad enough, orthodontia would be paid for as well (at the recommendation of his dentist? Not sure if I'm grasping at straws, but I'm trying to draw a conclusion)

    Just adding that b/c people comment about his near-perfect teeth so much, which is a distinguishing feature for a man.
    If the dentist thing is true, wouldn't they have been able to find his identity via dental records?

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    Quote Originally Posted by formerreddingrunner View Post
    I agree. He literally had no other scars, he must not have been much of a sportsmen...

    Re: the uniball pen left in his pocket. Same kind that my dad uses (a veterinarian), and always has on him so he can *write stuff down.* though I doubt he would be a veterinary student as my dad's pretty beat up from working with animals. although that could explain the work boots? Could they do some kind of analysis on his boots, like the dirt on his boots, to see where he had been traveling?

    How can he not have any other scars...If he was raised in Canada, where are his hockey scars?

    How do I write this so I don't get sued...In the summer of 2001, I lived in Chicago, IL and at the job I working - had access to *information regarding medical residents* not just in Chicago, but medical residents throughout the US (am I gonna get sued yet?)

    Wow, some interesting information...one individual (though he was from Russia, so not "Lyle") would up and leave his medical residency. Be gone for weeks/months. Would just "disappear" . Wouldn't tell *anyone* where he was going. (I guess he just got fed up of the work load). I mean, I never saw a photo of this resident (and if I did, like I would remember it 16 years later...) That's all I can I write - don't wanna be sued - but I happened to be there the day they were discussing his situation with a residency director.

    "Lyle" kinda/sorta fits the profile of a medical student or medical resident, IMO. Pale. Highly sensitive individual: the first room is *too noisy* & then blocks out the light with a bedspread in the second room (highly sensitive people need a dark, quiet room to sleep in). He fits the profile of a high achiever because he was so conscientious: paying for the room, cleaning up his room (taking out the trash?), cleaning himself up. He dotted the i's and crossed the t's. Just a guess, he spent a lot of time "putting his affairs in order" ...perhaps that's what the last couple of days were for.

    Is it possible to check *students who would have dropped out - of either medical school (osteopathic or allopathic programs), or residency programs, in the prior months? and/or were dismissed or fired from their programs? Could he not afford medical school any longer, or was he being cut off financially? How accurate are those isotope analysis? Is he definitely from the United States? (If so, then he wouldn't be that Russian resident, who had "vanished" mysteriously from numerous programs & was being let go in summer of 2001).

    I don't want to send anyone down the wrong path, because I could be completely wrong, but those are some of my thoughts. He just has a lot of attributes of my doctor friends; extremely clean and neat, and OCD ish. Clean clothes. Clean room. Perfect teeth.

    Either that, or he was murdered.
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    He doesn't look "Metis". Not all Native people get free federal health care benefits, one would have to be registered as a First Nations person in order to qualify for the health benefits. The dental coverage is also very basic, nothing extensive.
    His features also match those found in various ethnic groups of European/Asian cultures. He stands out because he doesn't have "Anglo-Saxon" or "All American Boy" features.
    He wasn't pale, it was noted that he didn't have signs of a "sun tan" or being outdoors very much.
    To me, this could be for a variety of reasons: maybe he was in a mental health institution, maybe he worked indoors for long periods of time, maybe he was so depressed he rarely left his home during the daytime. For now, we don't know.

  10. #1705
    Quote Originally Posted by bluesneakers View Post
    If the dentist thing is true, wouldn't they have been able to find his identity via dental records?
    It would be easier to do in Canada, because there's a much smaller population here, compared to the US.

    But I believe that his "isotope analysis results" show that he was raised in the Great Lakes Region? Not sure how much of Canada that includes (though obviously, Canada provinces around the Great Lakes.) I'm not sure exactly how far the map extends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood Park View Post
    ...The dental coverage is also very basic, nothing extensive...
    I have a friend who is Native American here (I'm in Canada) and I was under the impression that it was ALL covered and he had excellent dental benefits. Perhaps it varies by Province/Tribe?

    I still think "Lyle" looks Metis, esp. his profile.

    Here's info on the dental benefits for Native Americans/First Nations. Of course these benefits could have changed drastically through the years. https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...formation.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesneakers View Post
    BBM
    Not everyone in Canada plays hockey, and not everyone who plays hockey has scars.
    I was just saying this tongue-and-cheek, actually!!! 'cause Canada has the reputation of "everyone" playing hockey.

    shouldn't mentioned I was only half serious..THX!

    Also, if "Lyle" was a med student/resident/intern...perhaps he didn't "match" for a residency program. Pale skin could mean studying for boards. Just my opinion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by formerreddingrunner View Post
    It would be easier to do in Canada, because there's a much smaller population here, compared to the US.

    But I believe that his "isotope analysis results" show that he was raised in the Great Lakes Region? Not sure how much of Canada that includes (though obviously, Canada provinces around the Great Lakes.) I'm not sure exactly how far the map extends.
    The isotopes report for Lyle Stevik is something I find interesting. http://reallifeishorror.blogspot.ca/...or-county.html
    If he had moved back to the area he was found deceased two months prior and moved away 1 month prior; my question is: where did he stay and did he visit anyone. What brought him back to the area more than once?
    The idea that he possibly returned to the area of his childhood within 12 months before his death seems possible, but again, who was he visiting, where did he stay. When someone moves around as much as he did, it's likely people don't consider the person missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesneakers View Post
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    And not everyone who uses common uniball pens is a veterinarian.


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    Quote Originally Posted by formerreddingrunner View Post
    I agree. He literally had no other scars, he must not have been much of a sportsmen...

    Re: the uniball pen left in his pocket. Same kind that my dad uses (a veterinarian), and always has on him so he can *write stuff down.* though I doubt he would be a veterinary student as my dad's pretty beat up from working with animals. although that could explain the work boots? Could they do some kind of analysis on his boots, like the dirt on his boots, to see where he had been traveling?

    How can he not have any other scars...If he was raised in Canada, where are his hockey scars?

    How do I write this so I don't get sued...In the summer of 2001, I lived in Chicago, IL and at the job I working - had access to *information regarding medical residents* not just in Chicago, but medical residents throughout the US (am I gonna get sued yet?)

    Wow, some interesting information...one individual (though he was from Russia, so not "Lyle") would up and leave his medical residency. Be gone for weeks/months. Would just "disappear" . Wouldn't tell *anyone* where he was going. (I guess he just got fed up of the work load). I mean, I never saw a photo of this resident (and if I did, like I would remember it 16 years later...) That's all I can I write - don't wanna be sued - but I happened to be there the day they were discussing his situation with a residency director.

    "Lyle" kinda/sorta fits the profile of a medical student or medical resident, IMO. Pale. Highly sensitive individual: the first room is *too noisy* & then blocks out the light with a bedspread in the second room (highly sensitive people need a dark, quiet room to sleep in). He fits the profile of a high achiever because he was so conscientious: paying for the room, cleaning up his room (taking out the trash?), cleaning himself up. He dotted the i's and crossed the t's. Just a guess, he spent a lot of time "putting his affairs in order" ...perhaps that's what he spent his last couple of days doing.

    I surmise that he didn't let the maid clean his room Sunday b/c he may have already been setting up/practicing for the suicide. He didn't let her in & was rude....I'm guessing he had something to hide.

    Regarding the maid confessing *now* (15 years later?) she heard voices on that Sunday, what an odd thing to say? I'm not sure what to think of it...don't really believe her, but at the same time, given the tragicness of the situation, it is a comforting thought to imagine "Lyle" had a friend/lover/whatever there on his last day (but because she didn't tell the police initially, I kinda doubt it's true...I just know that personally I would say any tidbit of information to the police immediately, not wait 15 years to admit something).

    Is it possible to check *students who would have dropped out - of either medical school (osteopathic or allopathic programs), or residency programs, in the prior months? and/or were dismissed or fired from their programs? (If he was fired or dropped out - Sept would certainly be a depressing time for him...then add the Sept 11 tragedy) Could he not afford medical school any longer, or was he being cut off financially? How accurate are those isotope analysis? Is he definitely from the United States? (If so, then he wouldn't be that Russian resident, who had "vanished" mysteriously from numerous programs & was being let go in summer of 2001).

    I don't want to send anyone down the wrong path, because I could be completely wrong, but those are some of my thoughts. He just has a lot of attributes of my doctor friends; extremely clean and neat, and OCD ish. Clean clothes. Clean room. Perfect teeth.

    I still do question if he was murdered though...just b/c *no one* identifies him....that's so *weird*

    Granted, this story is not well circulated at all. I lived in WA state for two years and never heard of it.

    Also, I read an article that speculated that surmised that "Lyle" was not well read. That seems like a stretch. Even the fact that he picked up the local paper is a bit telling to me...curious people like to read, even just local news. If he was unread, he would just watch boring TV...

    A bit of a morbid thought, but was he reading the local paper knowing that he would *soon be in it* as a suicide victim? Those r my opinions....

    Plus, his suicide was so clean & neat ...like a doctor would do it. Yet no prescription drugs to link him to any name.

    They should make a YouTube video on "My last Days" ...what this suicide victim story needs is more circulation, in my opinion, then it will be solved.
    I don't think you have to sorry about being sued.

    You do bring up a good point, his boots and clothes. They could do pollen on them like they did with Buckskin girl if the clothes or boots were preserved correctly. That may tell them where he'd most recently came from. Wish they had the toothpaste tube.

    I honestly doubt he's Native American. Shovel teeth are not noted.

    I wish we could identify him so he can rest in peace. I'm sure he never imagined he'd be larger in death and known by tons of people then he was alive.

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