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    Quote Originally Posted by future criminologist View Post
    Here is a new article from CNN with updated sketches:

    Police release sketches, evidence from Long Island bodies investigation
    http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/20/justic...html?hpt=ju_c2

    along with new details on the UID'd Asian man:
    The male victim was 5-feet-6-inches and was missing both the top and bottom molars and one of his top front teeth. Investigators determined that he was wearing women's' clothes when he died between five and 10 years ago, Dormer said.
    I'm hoping that forensics can determine whether the victim lost these teeth before or after death. Using the gum bone starts to grow back and fills the holes where the roots were in a living person. Having absolutely no molars at all at such a young age is unusual, in my opinion. Missing a front tooth is also unusual and maybe this occured at the time of death. IDK. I agree a composite of this victim made up as a woman with long hair and makeup may assist with ID.

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    Carl, I just pulled the image over the sketch and it looks like a match. The age seems correct too since Zhang was 17 in 2006. Zhang could have gotten taller as well since he was so young when he went missing. Even if it isn't a match, it's great sleuthing! Thanks for the tip about firefox, which I use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    This guy's facial features align perfectly to the facial reconstruction:

    Mo Zhang
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/z/zhang_mo.html



    I have sized the above images so that they are comparable. If you click your mouse on Mo's photo and drag it to the right over the reconstruction, Mo's photo becomes transparent, and you can test the similarity of their facial shapes and spacing of their facial features.

    ETA: I just realized that this trick only works if you are using the Mozilla Firefox browser.
    Hi CarlK...I don't even need to superimpose one image over the other...I think you have a match. Glad to hear that you have called it in...excellent job!

    Warm regards
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-08-2012 at 06:03 PM.

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    Any word on Mo Zhang?

    I just stumbled across this tonight and thought it matched fairly well.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/3851/15

    Glad to see someone's already submitted the tip.

    He barely fits the window.

    "On September 20, 2011, police revealed new details about these remains. Police released a composite sketch of the Asian male, who was wearing women's clothes at the time of his death due to blunt force trauma, and was likely working as a prostitute.[17] He was between 17 and 23 years of age, 5' 6" in height, and missing four teeth; he had been dead for between five to 10 years."

    He was last scene: August 09, 2006 - 09:28 and was 17 y.o.
    His height fits almost perfectly at 65" - 5'-5"
    I wish they had his dental records available.

    Thats just under five years.

    I did a google search for yorktown, va + serial killer and came up with this page: http://www.projectjason.org/forums/i...p?topic=2622.0

    The victims don't really fit and the timeline is a stretch at 30 years. Which could put the SK into his late 60's now.
    Maybe he group up in the Yorktown area, moved to NYC and still visits virginia.

    On a related note, I was looking into unidentified victims and was a bit alarmed to find out this out:

    "It has been estimated that there are approximately 40,000 unidentified human remains in the offices of the Nation's medical examiners and coroners or were buried or cremated before being identified (see Missing Persons and Unidentified Remains: The Nation's Silent Mass Disaster). In June 2007, OJP's Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS), confirmed that, in a typical year, medical examiners and coroners handle approximately 4,400 unidentified human decedent cases, 1,000 of which remain unidentified after one year. (See the Medical Examiners and Coroners' Offices, 2004 for the full report."

    http://www.namus.gov/about.htm


    I read somewhere else that there is major backlog with entering the data into databases and that many aren't coordinated togethor.
    Also, that the departments don't have the time or resources. - The last part just makes me think of all the backlog created by stupid politics and
    time wasted dealing with petty offenses like MJ use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    I already did.
    Hey Carl!!! Did you ever hear anything about about the possible match between the Long Island UID and Mo Zhang?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reannan View Post
    Hey Carl!!! Did you ever hear anything about about the possible match between the Long Island UID and Mo Zhang?
    No, and I probably won't unless it turns out to be a positive match. I called a tip-line on that one, so if I called back for follow-up, the operator on the line probably wouldn't know one way or the other. Usually with the tip-lines, they just pass the info on to the detectives, and don't keep records of whether the tips panned out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    No, and I probably won't unless it turns out to be a positive match. I called a tip-line on that one, so if I called back for follow-up, the operator on the line probably wouldn't know one way or the other. Usually with the tip-lines, they just pass the info on to the detectives, and don't keep records of whether the tips panned out.
    Well, I hope they have the good sense to have actually followed up on your tip Carl!!! Guess we will just wait and see..... frustrating! Great work, by the way - as usual. You never cease to amaze me.

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    Hi All! Haven't posted in a while, but I recently came across a missing person that struck my interest! And forgive me if this info was posted already.

    MESCALITO JOSELITO ECHAVEZ - Date Missing: October 16, 2003
    Missing From: New York City, NY

    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 145 lbs
    Hair Color: Black
    Eye Color: Black
    Gender: Male
    Race: Filipino

    But when I realized that the age he went missing is listed as 31, I sort of dismissed it as being a possible match...UNTIL, I read that the unidentified victim may have had a musculoskeletal disorder.

    The victim was a male between 17 and 23 years old and is estimated to have been 5-feet 6-inches in height. The database report states the remains had been in the location for five years and that the victim may have had a musculoskeletal disorder that affected his gait. Suffolk Police have stated women’s clothing was found on the body. The report just notes clothing.

    Suffolk Police also have stated the victim had poor dental hygiene and was missing his bottom molars though the online database report does not indicate that information.


    http://babylonvillage.patch.com/grou...tified-remains


    Could this mean the estimated age of the unidentified victim is off? Could he have possibly been older than 17-23?

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    PM for UID Asian Male

    Daniel Ted Yuen is runaway from a group home in California that he was put into but may of tried to travel back to New Jersey, where he was originally from. There was also a child rapist and murderer working at Cedu where Daniel was schooling at. If he was a victim he could be scared physiologically and somehow got to where he becamea victim of this serial killer by escorting himself or something. I really don't know what to think exactly. This is a 'unique' UID case. JMO

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/y/yuen_daniel.html

    http://liamscheff.com/surviving-cedu...o-cedu-school/
    Last edited by Merry; 01-03-2014 at 09:40 PM.

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    Not sure if anyone has mentioned him, but Brian Lee went missing from Queens in 2003

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/images/...-brian-lee.jpg

    Not sure on the height thing. Perhaps this is entered incorrectly? Or not...either way, he seems to look like a possible match as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by traacker13 View Post
    Not sure if anyone has mentioned him, but Brian Lee went missing from Queens in 2003

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/images/...-brian-lee.jpg

    Not sure on the height thing. Perhaps this is entered incorrectly? Or not...either way, he seems to look like a possible match as well.
    Is there anything more about his history? Is the location where he was last seen known for certain behaviors? IOW, the asian male victim was most likely engaged in prostitution...he was dressed as a female the night he died...
    Is queens known for prostitution? TIA. Good find traacker13!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reannan View Post
    Well, I hope they have the good sense to have actually followed up on your tip Carl!!! Guess we will just wait and see..... frustrating! Great work, by the way - as usual. You never cease to amaze me.
    Hi CarlK and friends,

    Have we followed up on this? It seems you all provided great tips - if we haven't had a response let's hit them up again...Right??????
    Let me know what I can do!

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    I'm reposting here:

    Hi Rachel & Josh here, some of you may have read we are partnering with Tricia & Websleuths on a docu-series covering 5 unsolved serial killer cases. LISK is one of them and we would like to work with websleuthers in helping to identify the Jane, John, and Toddler Does connected to the case. We definitely understand there's been a lot of time and energy put into this already by websleuthers and the community, we're hoping to inject new energy into identifying. We will have a access to wide television audience who in additional can hopefully help.

    I'll be posting to the threads for the other identified, please don't be shy... contact us. We are looking for some lead websleuthers to work with us as well, please reach out. Already we've heard from a lot of you on LISK and other cases. It takes a village!

    Best,
    Rachel & Josh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danse_Macabre View Post
    I'm reposting here:

    Hi Rachel & Josh here, some of you may have read we are partnering with Tricia & Websleuths on a docu-series covering 5 unsolved serial killer cases. LISK is one of them and we would like to work with websleuthers in helping to identify the Jane, John, and Toddler Does connected to the case. We definitely understand there's been a lot of time and energy put into this already by websleuthers and the community, we're hoping to inject new energy into identifying. We will have a access to wide television audience who in additional can hopefully help.

    I'll be posting to the threads for the other identified, please don't be shy... contact us. We are looking for some lead websleuthers to work with us as well, please reach out. Already we've heard from a lot of you on LISK and other cases. It takes a village!

    Best,
    Rachel & Josh
    Thanks guys for bringing new life to this case!!! This is some insight I've received from the Director of MissingPersons.Asia who kindly looked at the Asian victim's NamUs Profile:

    If the sketch is anything close to accurate, I would take this decedent to be of North Asian extraction, i.e. Japanese, Korean or Chinese with a slight possibility of Vietnamese.

    Really not likely in my opinion to be of Thai/Lao or Khmer (Cambodian), Burmese or Malay ancestry.

    More analysis of the "musculoskeletal disorder" might be called for. If it was genetic/congenital, all bets are off. But if was related to childhood malnutrition then North Korea might be a possibility.

    My logic on that is to think of parts of Asia where malnutrition was been an ongoing problem problem in, say, 1995-2005 ie. during his childhood. And while there were still hungry children in rural Thailand/Laos/Cambo in those days, most of the Chinese immigrant clans were much better off and more usually urban dwellers than their farm country counterparts from the "native stock".

    If there was any dental work done the compounds used in fillings might give you some insight into where the dental work was performed.

    Asia produces a larger than you'd expect percentage of men living as women (regarded in Thailand as a sort of "third gender" and called "katoey" here). So it would be normal for "her" to dress in women's clothes thinking of herself as female while biologically male. This victim could also be intergender, having the DNA markers and bone (particularly pelvic) structure of a male, but with other traits that are female. If the female traits were soft tissue, they'd no longer be available as evidence. A genetic issue like this could perhaps also be the root cause of the musculoskeletal problem.


    Perhaps we can think on this some and forward more questions to him as they arise.

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    No offense, but I get the feeling if he was Asian, he may have not received much attention because he was possible run-away, and wearing women's clothes... wouldn't be surprised if he has a family whom due to cultural perception, chose to shun him in his lifetime to some harsh degrees.

    It's VERY difficult to have varying sexual orientation for most people, but for Asians, oh my, forget it!

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