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    Quote Originally Posted by CriminalMinds View Post
    countermeasure for identification--"control" on the tattoo because it said remy's angel--by slicing it up, he is saying she is no longer yours, she is mine---if the body wasn't dismembered, you could say it was also a countermeasure for non-id purposes--but if that was the true purpose, he would have just gouged it out since he was already mutilating the body
    "he is saying she is no longer yours, she is mine".. that seemed too much theory on psyche. But your view, I can't say much.

    I think his goal is simple, to thwart the identification. So, what is significant about this? What happens if Jessica is identified?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puggle View Post
    lol at a guess...I'm thinking deedee21 is thinking the finding of 10 sets of human remains within an 8 mile stretch of the same road means it's the one and same killer...and he/she is simply expressing what most.... I believe think without having to quantify....because it seems fairly obvious.
    "seems" is the operative word

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emre E View Post
    "he is saying she is no longer yours, she is mine".. that seemed too much theory on psyche. But your view, I can't say much.

    I think his goal is simple, to thwart the identification. So, what is significant about this? What happens if Jessica is identified?
    if Jessica was immediately id'd, good chance he would have been as the last one with her--after time, memories lapse, people misremember, things cloud, mesh together,etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CriminalMinds View Post
    if Jessica was immediately id'd, good chance he would have been as the last one with her--after time, memories lapse, people misremember, things cloud, mesh together,etc.
    Very good. So, he has ties to Jessica. You say it may be a john/ the last john. Possible. I think her last john is also dead. He is John Doe 2003. Someone/The Band busted them in a motel room. Took their money. Raped Jessica and killed them both.

    Peaches Doe? You think she's a LISK victim? I do. What do you say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emre E View Post
    Very good. So, he has ties to Jessica. You say it may be a john/ the last john. Possible. I think her last john is also dead. He is John Doe 2003. Someone/The Band busted them in a motel room. Took their money. Raped Jessica and killed them both.

    Peaches Doe? You think she's a LISK victim? I do. What do you say?
    Just out of curiosity why do you think this about Jessica and John doe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emre E View Post
    Very good. So, he has ties to Jessica. You say it may be a john/ the last john. Possible. I think her last john is also dead. He is John Doe 2003. Someone/The Band busted them in a motel room. Took their money. Raped Jessica and killed them both.

    Peaches Doe? You think she's a LISK victim? I do. What do you say?
    to be fair/accurate, I said last one with her, doesn't necessarily have to be a john--but there is a very good chance he has some type of ties to Jessica or her former bf(good ties or bad)-- good theory on JD 2003, and the scenario you suggest to go along with it--only second time someone that i have read has suggested that JD 2003 theory

    --as far as Peaches, still not sure yet--on the proverbial fence since I am not fully committed either way to GB4 and the others being connected--I know people point to the common burial general area as being conclusive evidence that they are the same, but recently an identified CT serial killer dumped 7 right on top of where a vic from the 90's was dumped by a non-serial----pure coincidence--some suggested he must have heard about it, but that doesn't jive since he was not there then---the beach just might be the best place to dump a body if the killers are from there/not too far from there

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    Quote Originally Posted by CriminalMinds View Post
    to be fair/accurate, I said last one with her, doesn't necessarily have to be a john--but there is a very good chance he has some type of ties to Jessica or her former bf(good ties or bad)-- good theory on JD 2003, and the scenario you suggest to go along with it--only second time someone that i have read has suggested that JD 2003 theory

    --as far as Peaches, still not sure yet--on the proverbial fence since I am not fully committed either way to GB4 and the others being connected--I know people point to the common burial general area as being conclusive evidence that they are the same, but recently an identified CT serial killer dumped 7 right on top of where a vic from the 90's was dumped by a non-serial----pure coincidence--some suggested he must have heard about it, but that doesn't jive since he was not there then---the beach just might be the best place to dump a body if the killers are from there/not too far from there
    OK. Here's what I think about Peaches. Comparing her (1997) to Jessica (2003) as is may be misleading. Do not forget the timeline that things are in constant evolution.

    She's rumored to be a working girl. Found naked. Hands and head cut off. (Also the legs probably to fit her in the rubber maid container) Found along a roadside.

    So, if I have to make a guess, since there is only one truth, I say she is LISK victim 99%. What do you say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emre E View Post
    OK. Here's what I think about Peaches. Comparing her (1997) to Jessica (2003) as is may be misleading. Do not forget the timeline that things are in constant evolution.

    She's rumored to be a working girl. Found naked. Hands and head cut off. (Also the legs probably to fit her in the rubber maid container) Found along a roadside.

    So, if I have to make a guess, since there is only one truth, I say she is LISK victim 99%. How about you?

    let's BUMP her thread, if we can locate it

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    The burner phone and the min had to be bought some how...some way.
    I know there isn't much we can do or anyone really but wouldn't police at least be able to narrow down where the phone or min to put on the phone were bought at. I think that'd say a lot about him.

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    below is what is in the comments section:

    Published on Jan 24, 2015

    This is a recording of a man who lived in Shirley NY. at the time of the long Island serial killings. This man beat me nearly to death and raped me. He sent me this message after I tried to report him. Is this the same vioce that called Amanda, Melissa Barthelemy's sister? If so I know the killers name.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CriminalMinds View Post
    sounds a little like the message left out in New Mexico re:NINA

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    She said this was the message she got after she tried to report him. I dont understand what tried means? It sounds like only part of the tape was played.

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    Im not taking this tape seriously. Unless hes arrested and the tape given to police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deedee21 View Post
    Im not taking this tape seriously. Unless hes arrested and the tape given to police.
    I agree--Interesting nonetheless--Possibly someone in the know can give it a listen just in case

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    Its worth checking out cause why not but I'm not taking it seriously either till something comes of it.

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