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    NM - French tourists dead, child rescued at White Sands

    AP story at the Guardian:

    New Mexico park rangers rescue child after French tourists found dead
    Routine desert patrol 2.5km from the remote Alkali Flat trail discovers bodies of two French hikers, rescues surviving boy

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    At the bottom of that story was a link to another

    Former White House chef found dead in New Mexico mountains

    Wth New Mexico?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesneakers View Post
    At the bottom of that story was a link to another

    Former White House chef found dead in New Mexico mountains

    Wth New Mexico?
    And here's that thread, for those playing along at home:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...s-13-June-2015

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    Oops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    AP story at the Guardian:

    New Mexico park rangers rescue child after French tourists found dead
    Routine desert patrol 2.5km from the remote Alkali Flat trail discovers bodies of two French hikers, rescues surviving boy
    ZOMG, why would anyone go hiking in a place like this in 100 degree heat?


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    Alamogordo Daily News, names and circumstances:

    Two French Nationals dead after hiking

    Something odd about this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    Alamogordo Daily News, names and circumstances:

    Two French Nationals dead after hiking

    Something odd about this one.
    So they were hiking, the mom slowed down and told the dad and son to go on ahead? Bad idea. It doesn't sound like they had any water either. Also bad.

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    French couple who died hiking in New Mexico desert likely saved son by giving him their water

    Probably just one of those tragic things, but this still seems very odd.

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    I agree wfgodot, it is all very odd

    if mom was going back to the vehicle, why were they giving the boy two sips to their one sip?

    why didn't the boy have his own water bottle?

    is 9 old enough to go on a 3+hour hike in the searing desert at the hottest time of day?

    and if you're already sharing water by the time mom starts feeling ill, why not all turn back? the parents must've known she had heat exhaustion

    if they had all turned back then, they would all likely be alive!


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    apparently it's common enough that they have warning signs posted about how much water to take with them

    I don't understand hiking period. I don't get the attraction of it at all much less in these conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by KaaBoom View Post
    ZOMG, why would anyone go hiking in a place like this in 100 degree heat?


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    White Sands

    Beautiful place, have bn there several times, different seasons, diff times of day.
    For non-desert dwellers, that dry heat can be deceptively comfortable.
    But when it comes to safety & weather, no fooling around w Mother Nature.

    A terrible shame this couple met their deaths there, leaving their son without parents.
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    "The White Sands National Monument is ... in the state of New Mexico, at an elevation of 4,235 feet (1,291 m). The area is in the mountain-ringed Tularosa Basin and comprises the southern part of a 275 square miles (710 km2) field of white sand dunes composed of gypsum crystals. It is the largest gypsum dune field in the world." bbm. Link for pix at wiki and official website.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_...ional_Monument

    White Sands website has translations to French and several other languages.
    Warning signs at entrance & along roadway. Ditto pamphlets.
    Alkali Flat Trail
    "Distance from visitor center: 7 miles (11.2 km)
    Length of trail: 4.6 miles (7.4 km) round-trip"
    "....There is no shade or water along the trail, and summer temperatures can exceed 100 degrees F (38 C).Heat-related illness is common in warm weather and can be fatal. Hike during cool times. Carry food and at least two quarts of water. Rest, eat and drink when tired. Drinking water is available only at the Visitor Center. The white sand reflects sunlight. Protect all exposed skin from sunburn. Protect your eyes by wearing sunglasses. We recommend that you do not hike alone." bbm
    Other pages on website advise a gallon of water per person per day.
    http://www.nps.gov/whsa/planyourvisi...flat-trail.htm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyL View Post
    I agree wfgodot, it is all very odd

    if mom was going back to the vehicle, why were they giving the boy two sips to their one sip?

    why didn't the boy have his own water bottle?

    is 9 old enough to go on a 3+hour hike in the searing desert at the hottest time of day?

    and if you're already sharing water by the time mom starts feeling ill, why not all turn back? the parents must've known she had heat exhaustion

    if they had all turned back then, they would all likely be alive!
    By the time they got to the point when they told her to wait there while they walked on I think they'd lost most of their cognitive abilities from heat exhaustion.

    But getting to there.. I don't understand a hike in the desert on such a hot day and so ill-prepared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyL View Post
    apparently it's common enough that they have warning signs posted about how much water to take with them

    I don't understand hiking period. I don't get the attraction of it at all much less in these conditions
    I love hiking, and to me that looks like a gorgeous place to explore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyL View Post
    I agree wfgodot, it is all very odd

    if mom was going back to the vehicle, why were they giving the boy two sips to their one sip?

    why didn't the boy have his own water bottle?

    is 9 old enough to go on a 3+hour hike in the searing desert at the hottest time of day?

    and if you're already sharing water by the time mom starts feeling ill, why not all turn back? the parents must've known she had heat exhaustion

    if they had all turned back then, they would all likely be alive!
    Clearly they had no idea what they were doing and were totally ill-prepared. They should have had at least three gallons of water with them, and they should not have been hiking at that time of the day.

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