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    ID - DeOrr Kunz Jr, 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #8

    Deorr Kunz Jr.

    Missing two year old in Lemhi County
    Search crews are looking for a missing two year old boy who was camping with his family in the Leadore area.

    Family members say Deorr Kunz Jr. was camping yesterday afternoon at the Timber Creek Campground at Stone Reservoir when he was reported missing.

    He was last seen wearing a camo jacket, blue sweatpants and camo cowboy boots.

    There is no official word from yet from The Lemhi County Sheriff's Office or Salmon Search & Rescue of organized searches for the weekend. We'll update search information as it's released.
    http://m.localnews8.com/news/Missing...ounty/34110688



    Chief deputy on missing boy's family: 'They're solid
    KTVB, KTVB.COM 2:14 p.m. MDT July 16, 2015

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    "We've interviewed the family, and the information they've provided us - my office, myself - we're good with that," he said. "And I know there's a lot of innuendo out on social media and a lot of stuff going out there and it would be nice if it would stop and let them have a little peace. They're solid."

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    Since a couple of weeks into this missing DeOrr I started thinking somebody kind of known to the family was up there with them.

    We have talked quite a bit about what day DeOrr and his mother and father arrived at camp but we have never asked or discussed what day GGP and Isaac arrived.

    Perhaps they were there just a short time or maybe longer.

    Could they have been there several days, weeks and made friends with anybody visiting the area.

    The detective seems pretty sure, from his interview, DeOrr was abducted.

    I wonder what he knows that we don't know???

    Could it be that JM, DK and little DeOrr were just visiting GGP for a couple of days?

    It always seemed strange they would go camping with GGP and a man they never met. But if they went there and found GGP with a friend that could explain that.

    Just thinking about all of this.
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    Does anyone have a link to the mapping of exactly where this camping spot is? Or have I missed it.

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    I am sure someone has posted this before.. but this says that deorr was LAST SEEN at1330 pm.. that is 130. Not the 2 pm we have been saying or close to 2 pm "naptime".

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/show/29726

    Case Information

    Status Missing
    First name Deorr
    Middle name Jay
    Last name Kunz
    Nickname/Alias Little Man
    NCMEC number 1251277
    Date last seen July 10, 2015 13:30
    Date entered 07/31/2015

    Age last seen 2 to 2 years old
    Age now 2 years old
    Race White
    Ethnicity
    Sex Male
    Height (inches) 36.0
    Weight (pounds) 28.0 to 32.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by wondering25 View Post
    I am sure someone has posted this before.. but this says that deorr was LAST SEEN at1330 pm.. that is 130. Not the 2 pm we have been saying or close to 2 pm "naptime".

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/show/29726

    Case Information

    Status Missing
    First name Deorr
    Middle name Jay
    Last name Kunz
    Nickname/Alias Little Man
    NCMEC number 1251277
    Date last seen July 10, 2015 13:30
    Date entered 07/31/2015

    Age last seen 2 to 2 years old
    Age now 2 years old
    Race White
    Ethnicity
    Sex Male
    Height (inches) 36.0
    Weight (pounds) 28.0 to 32.0
    Most likely because they were going off the official 911 call made at 2:28 and the mother's account that he had been missing for about an hour.

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    Wow! Just listened to the interview of the PI at post 933 and learned some interesting things. The bolded parts are his words, albeit summarized and not direct quotes. Everything else is mine.

    First, mom, dad and baby visited the store the morning after they arrived. This tells us they did in fact arrive Thursday evening. So, this jives with the story about where they 'slept' which was at first an odd choice of words since we all thought they arrived on Friday and had yet to sleep.

    Second, there was a "old" man at the store who stared at the baby enough to make mom nervous about him. PI wants to find this person. Of course, "old" to someone as young as mom could be middle-aged.

    Third, the baby could 'walk' out of the boots, so the fact that the boots were never found is a huge clue.

    Fourth - the parents have cooperated fully with LE. They are grieving parents. Nothing supports a theory that the parents covered up an accidental death.

    Fifth - the PI believes this was an abduction, does not believe the parents were involved in anything to do with the child's disappearance. He discounts GGP being involved.

    Sixth - most child abductions are committed by someone that knows the family or is a friend of a friend of the family. The PI pointed no fingers at anyone.

    Seventh - he does not believe an animal took the baby.

    Eighth - national media needs to bring this case to the attention of the country. There may be someone who noticed that some people now have a little boy that didn't have one before this baby boy disappeared.

    Abduction. I have always thought this and now even more so.

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    Last edited by rkf; 08-14-2015 at 08:48 PM. Reason: Fixed attachments

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    Has LE ever said ANYTHING at all to support the abduction theory?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTime View Post
    Wow! Just listened to the interview of the PI at post 933 and learned some interesting things. The bolded parts are his words, albeit summarized and not direct quotes. Everything else is mine.

    First, mom, dad and baby visited the store the morning after they arrived. This tells us they did in fact arrive Thursday evening. So, this jives with the story about where they 'slept' which was at first an odd choice of words since we all thought they arrived on Friday and had yet to sleep.
    BBM

    --after the P.I. interview came out, it was discussed AT LENGTH as to what that particular stmt of his meant.

    --some were sure that it meant that they must have arrived Thursday night.

    --others were of the belief that what the P.I. meant was-------they went up to the store (in) the morning, after they arrived, meaning that they had arrived Friday and later that same morning went to the store, got French fries etc.


    my opinion...........and i happen to agree with it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyback View Post
    Does anyone have a link to the mapping of exactly where this camping spot is? Or have I missed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jules71 View Post
    Most likely because they were going off the official 911 call made at 2:28 and the mother's account that he had been missing for about an hour.

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    And they still have his eyes as being blue. That is really not helpful.

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    Wrong thread

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    We have very little actual info to go on in sleuthing this case.
    We don't know for sure which night/day they arrived.
    We don't know if they came together w/ggp. Or his friend IR.
    We don't know for sure how long little DeOrr was missing before 911 was called.
    But we do know that there are 2 RSO's in Leadore area. One @restaurant/bar, one@other campground said to be about 25 miles away.
    We know there is a trailhead leading out of Timber Creek campground.
    We know that someone contaminated the reservoir w/human cremains because the sheriff told us so.
    We know that the initial search was for an alive missing 2 year old, but not sure that makes it okay that there was someone/s dumping cremains there.
    Was the trunk of every vehicle entering or leaving Leadore being searched?
    When did the helicopters first come in and I wonder if they used infra-red night vision the first night DeOrr was officially missing.
    It is common in that camping area to use off-road motorcycles, bikes, atv's and horses. It is common for people to hike.
    IMO the scene was not locked down tight enough in the very first hours. I understand that LE probably thought they would find him quickly.
    Then the dogs kept returning to the reservoir which wasted alot of time, then divers searched.
    It is my own opinion that there was a "hole" big enough @the beginning for someone to get away from the area w/this toddler.
    What else would explain the fact that the water was contaminated? That someone did also drive up that very rugged road?
    Hoping for answers,
    jmho

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