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    Re your post above cottonweaver, going by what I have read the likely chain of events is that the parole board (not sure of exact name but you will know what I mean) were hasty in arranging for his early release under house arrest conditions before the minimum time when they could do so. That is, they shouldn`t have even been considering it until now, when he had served a sixth of his sentence. The women`s group petition had the unforeseen effect of bringing the parole board`s error to the attention of the justice minister, who then delayed his release because it shouldn`t have even been considered until now. Could be wrong but that all seems to make sense.

    What would be interesting to know IMO is if these `errors` on the part of the parole board are systematic but overlooked in other cases because there is no scrutiny of them, or if this was an example of preferential treatment for OP, and if the latter, where did the pressure to do this come from. From inside the prison system or from outside interests.
    Last edited by lithgow1; 08-21-2015 at 06:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interested Bystander View Post
    A goodly portion sensationalism here from the Daily Fail

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...son-YEARS.html

    'Oscar wanted a bath built in his cell, a new bed and is allowed to cook his own meals because he fears being poisoned': Shamed Pistorius' diva jail demands revealed as he is warned he could stay in prison for YEARS."

    What a paper! Yesterday, in the same, I read that the Parole Board had been given 14 days to meet! I will see if I can find it but I do wonder, when I read this type of reporting, whether it is worth uploading.
    It's a dangerous paper!

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    http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/artic.../#.Vdb20aBwbqB

    Some interesting thoughts in here, I think.

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    Sounds like once the women's group voiced their objections to the timing of his release during Women's Month, the Justice Minister discovered (or someone else called to his attention) that the parole board had technically jumped the gun by making their decision at their June 5th meeting.

    He acknowledged that their request was not based on any valid legal objections.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...te-put-on-hold

    Masutha received a petition on Monday from the Progressive Women’s Movement of South Africa expressing opposition to the release of Pistorius during the country’s Women’s Month. Asked about the timing of his intervention, Masutha, speaking from Cape Town, explained: “Ordinarily I do not consider decisions of parole boards … In this instance I had representations two days ago from a women’s rights organisation which requested that I review the decision.”

    The organisation’s argument that Pistorius should not be released in Women’s Month was “not sound in law”, he added, but prompted him to study the parole decision and find fault in its timing. “I don’t go around looking at cases and checking whether they have been dealt with in compliance with the law. It’s only when a matter has been brought to my attention that I would deal with that.”


    A statement from the Department of Justice and Correctional Services cited a law stating that a person sentenced to imprisonment must serve at least one-sixth of his or her sentence before being considered for “correctional supervision”, a form of house arrest. It said: “The decision to release him on 21 August 2015 was made prematurely on 5 June 2015 when the offender was not eligible to be considered at all ... One-sixth of a five-year sentence is 10 months, and at the time the decision was made, Mr Pistorius had served only six months of his sentence.”

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-birthday.html

    Oscar Pistorius will NOT be released from prison on Friday - as Reeva's family releases poignant photo on what would have been model's 32nd birthday

    “Ulrich Roux, a prominent criminal defence lawyer, said the minister had referred the case to the parole review board, which had 14 days from yesterday to consider whether Pistorius should be released or serve a longer period in jail.”


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    Minimum to be served before they may be considered

    From the webpage of the Department of Correctional Service:

    http://www.dcs.gov.za/Services/Corre...oleBoards.aspx

    Correctional Supervision and Parole Boards

    What is parole?


    Minimum periods to be served before placement is considered

    It is important to note that although the new parole boards will consider submissions in respect of all categories offenders presented to it, the new requirements in terms of minimum periods of imprisonment that must be served before parole can be considered will only be applicable to offenders sentenced after 1 October 2004. This implies that all persons sentenced prior to promulgation of the new legislation will be dealt with in accordance with the provisions of the existing legislation (Act 8 of 1959). In other words offenders sentenced in the past and prior to the promulgation of the new legislation need not fear that the new legislation will hold negative implications with regards to the minimum periods that they must serve before parole can be considered.

    In respect of offenders sentenced after 1 October 2004, the following minimum periods of imprisonment must be served before they may be considered for possible placement on parole:

    Section 276 1(i) of the Criminal Procedure Act.
    1/6 of sentence must be served prior to placement under Correctional Supervision by the Commissioner. Sentence may not exceed 5 years.

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    I don't recall having seen this uploaded before. It is a bit old but it is Ulrich Roux in OP's home. It does seem that the reporter adds his own twists in his reporting but Ulrich Roux is as straight as can be. Why cannot reporters make sure of the facts and not 'embroider'?

    http://www.today.com/video/today/560...s-510143043958


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    Quote Originally Posted by Interested Bystander View Post
    I don't recall having seen this uploaded before. It is a bit old but it is Ulrich Roux in OP's home. It does seem that the reporter adds his own twists in his reporting but Ulrich Roux is as straight as can be. Why cannot reporters make sure of the facts and not 'embroider'?

    http://www.today.com/video/today/560...s-510143043958
    I'm afraid OP has also killed your link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trotterly View Post
    I'm afraid OP has also killed your link.

    LOL I will see if I can find it again.



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    I don’t recall this. Old news but interesting, depending on one's opinion.

    http://www.destinyman.com/2014/04/15...-legal-expert/

    ‘Pistorius compromised his case’ – legal expert

    Murder-accused paralympian Oscar Pistorius faced seven gruelling days of cross examination during which he made a number of mistakes that could be his downfall. Here's what our expert had to say.


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    http://www.today.com/video/today/56021691

    Jeff Rossen reports for Today. This is the earlier link that did not work. Fingers crossed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Interested Bystander View Post
    http://www.today.com/video/today/56021691

    Jeff Rossen reports for Today. This is the earlier link that did not work. Fingers crossed.
    Yes that works thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marfa Lights View Post
    From the webpage of the Department of Correctional Service:

    http://www.dcs.gov.za/Services/Corre...oleBoards.aspx

    Correctional Supervision and Parole Boards

    What is parole?


    Minimum periods to be served before placement is considered

    It is important to note that although the new parole boards will consider submissions in respect of all categories offenders presented to it, the new requirements in terms of minimum periods of imprisonment that must be served before parole can be considered will only be applicable to offenders sentenced after 1 October 2004. This implies that all persons sentenced prior to promulgation of the new legislation will be dealt with in accordance with the provisions of the existing legislation (Act 8 of 1959). In other words offenders sentenced in the past and prior to the promulgation of the new legislation need not fear that the new legislation will hold negative implications with regards to the minimum periods that they must serve before parole can be considered.

    In respect of offenders sentenced after 1 October 2004, the following minimum periods of imprisonment must be served before they may be considered for possible placement on parole:

    Section 276 1(i) of the Criminal Procedure Act.
    1/6 of sentence must be served prior to placement under Correctional Supervision by the Commissioner. Sentence may not exceed 5 years.
    Am I right in thinking that pistorius wouldn't be on parole but under correctional supervision? If so, then I think this bit from the website you quoted from above is interesting :

    In respect of offender’s who can be considered for placement under Correctional Supervision or referred back to the court a quo for possible conversion of sentence into Correctional Supervision the following periods must be served:

    Section 276 1(i) of the Criminal Procedure Act.
    1/6 of sentence must be served prior to placement under Correctional Supervision by the Commissioner. Sentence may not exceed 5 years.


    Eta. BIB - This wording doesn't seem to insist on 1/6 of the sentence bring served before even being considered for Correctional Supervision, just that 1/6 has to be served before being placed under correctional supervision...
    Last edited by aftermath; 08-21-2015 at 01:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftermath View Post
    Am I right in thinking that pistorius wouldn't be on parole but under correctional supervision? If so, then I think this bit from the website you quoted from above is interesting :

    In respect of offender’s who can be considered for placement under Correctional Supervision or referred back to the court a quo for possible conversion of sentence into Correctional Supervision the following periods must be served:

    Section 276 1(i) of the Criminal Procedure Act.
    1/6 of sentence must be served prior to placement under Correctional Supervision by the Commissioner. Sentence may not exceed 5 years.


    Eta. BIB - This wording doesn't seem to insist on 1/6 of the sentence bring served before even being considered for Correctional Supervision, just that 1/6 has to be served before being placed under correctional supervision...
    But is this wording not subordinate to "Minimum periods to be served before placement is considered"?

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