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    MICKELHAM is red
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    Do you see MF's talent-scout-type work as a vehicle to satiate a sexual need or is that going too far? I think it was an opportunity to "scout" future victims. Certainly after the fact I can see how he groomed some of his most recent victims, though again at the time it didn't occur to me.

    Really amazing, thanks again.
    Did you have any insight, hints, knowledge, jokes, rumors about MF's sex life, his sexuality, his dating?


    Did MF have business partners that you noticed? He sold his company to a friend after his latest conviction, but I didn't know any of his business dealings. Regular friends that you knew? I was not friends with any of his friends. I mainly saw him on "set" when doing extra work, the occasional lunch when I would pick up my check.Or anyone who repeatedly seemed to be hanging around? Nope

    Ok, thanks.
    Please remember that anything you can think of may be valuable even if it doesn't seem that way.
    Especially relevant might be hearing of anyone around MF (besides young men and boys....)



    I don't know how anyone could hear that MF was on Jacob's very tiny, obscure and hidden street that night and not immediately assume involvement in this case. Let me share a crude analogy a cop-friend of mine once gave me: if there is one dog in the room and some missing dog food in the room, what is the easiest and obvious explanation?

    So I agree with your hypothetical as a potential explanation here. We've had this come up recently from someone else on WS that it may have been technically possible to overhear the conversation. I hope we can explore this further. I do to. I would really like to know what his alibi is and when it was checked out. Was it checked out during that first week or only after he was convicted of his first sex crime. Is it 100% or only more than likely true. Could he have a 100% alibi for the actual abduction (as in he was at in the house speaking to the parents of the kid he dropped off in Kiwi Court), but still could of helped in someway (making an auto patch call, or standing as a lookout at tom thumb).



    • Jared's abductor has some kind of unusual radio device in his car, according to Jared.
    • Kevin is a radio enthusiast.
    • The 'Medical Cop' is in some kind of cop-like-car....with a radio?
    • MF is in to radios, you reveal.
    • other radio activity in the area?


    ...and YES, I agree, it is very important to know if MF's alibi was discovered and verified during the first days in late 1989....or when exactly?
    ...btw, why would anyone have any reason to even talk to MF in 1989 or verify his alibi????




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    Did you have any insight, hints, knowledge, jokes, rumors about MF's sex life, his sexuality, his dating? He sent out a bi-monthly email updating his "friends" on what was going on in his life, inviting everyone to events he was leading. For a while he was offering $1000 to anyone setting him up on a date that would lead to a relationship lasting 6 months. MF was gay and he embraced that and wasn't ashamed of that at all (at least in public). From an email sent to his list:

    "Made the News! I rode my motorcycle up to Duluth Superior Pride with my friend ******** for what I thought was going to be a nice, quiet event… alas, someone was there harassing the parade goers and using the bible AND a bullhorn to publically espouse some very non-Christ like (and not very nice in general) beliefs. As a deeply spiritual man myself, I realize you can’t argue with ignorance, but I wasn’t going to sit there and listen… so I merely rode my bike over to him, backed my pipes into his face and sat there for 20 minutes smoking my cigar and revving my pipes every time he started trying to talk. The crowd cheered, many came over to personally thank me and one even bought me a drink!. It was VERY effective and I had more fun than I could have imagined possible! And then the news camera shows up and caught it all on tape…. For your amusement: http://www.fox21online.com/news/dulu...akes-tower-ave
    Health wise I'm working on losing a few pounds that have crept back on over the last few years... tho I'm still at my same pant size (which was a more important goal than pounds). My hair is still growing and much to the chagrin of my barber, still uncut. (but my DUDE sweater just arrived in the mail yesterday, so it's perfect!). I've got another month or so and my hair should be long enough to donate to Locks for Love, then I'm getting shaved bald (just im time for winter -what's wrong with that picture?) My friend ******** has me back out on the Racquetball courts AND I actually joined the YMCA… so anytime anyone wants to hit the courts, workout machines or swimming pool (or some cool classes!) please give me a buzz! I made it to the State Fair, ValleyFair and the Renaissance Festival (all in the same weekend!). My friend ******* got me horseback riding (that was a BLAST!) and I already renewed my membership next year for the Boat Club AND Valley Fair... and while fall is here, it's still great boating weather, so let me know if you're interested in getting on the water any Monday thru Thursday! "

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    I don't know how anyone could hear that MF was on Jacob's very tiny, obscure and hidden street that night and not immediately assume involvement in this case. Let me share a crude analogy a cop-friend of mine once gave me: if there is one dog in the room and some missing dog food in the room, what is the easiest and obvious explanation?

    Jared's abductor has some kind of unusual radio device in his car, according to Jared.
    • Kevin is a radio enthusiast.
    • The 'Medical Cop' is in some kind of cop-like-car....with a radio?
    • MF is in to radios, you reveal.
    • other radio activity in the area?



    ...and YES, I agree, it is very important to know if MF's alibi was discovered and verified during the first days in late 1989....or when exactly?
    ...btw, why would anyone have any reason to even talk to MF in 1989 or verify his alibi????
    I have always had the same question......when was he first asked and what was his answer.

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    I do not know if any LE interviewed him.

    There is this email that a webmaster received on his website from an anonymous source (email address was blacked out, a good copy of the email is on the website):
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    Matthew Feeney (re Jacob Wetterling)

    Posted on June 26, 2012

    Topics: Jacob Wetterling, Matthew Feeney


    The night Jacob was taken I was returning from a Youth Group event and dropping off XXXXXX (who lived across from the Wetterlings) so we were by the 7-11 and drove down the Wetterling road within an hour (if not minutes) of the actual abduction. – Matthew Feeney (October 26, 2010)




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrown324320 View Post
    I do not know if any LE interviewed him.

    There is this email that a webmaster received on his website:
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    Matthew Feeney (re Jacob Wetterling)

    Posted on June 26, 2012

    Topics: Jacob Wetterling, Matthew Feeney


    The night Jacob was taken I was returning from a Youth Group event and dropping off XXXXXX (who lived across from the Wetterlings) so we were by the 7-11 and drove down the Wetterling road within an hour (if not minutes) of the actual abduction. – Matthew Feeney (October 26, 2010)




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    Which matches perfectly with the weird 'medical cop' sitting in the parking lot just minutes after the abduction.
    I'd love to know how/why LE was able to 'clear' Feeney. Seems to be too many odd coincidences with him in the area, on Jacob's actual street at the time of the abduction, has radios in his car, his perverted history, etc.

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    let me clarify my post above. it appears to be an email that was sent to the anonymous source from Feeney himself. The copy of the actual email from Feeney was forwarded to Behind the Pine Curtain website. My link will show you a copy of the original email.
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    the site is owned by someone who was molested by a priest living at St John's in Collegeville. He wants to expose the dark secrets of the Abbey. I think this email was added to the site because Feeney was a layperson who worked for the Abbey.

    Per website: "Webmaster’s Note: Matthew Feeney is a graduate of Saint John’s University and former youth minister at Saint Joseph Church in Saint Joseph, Minnesota."
    http://www.behindthepinecurtain.com/...-guilty-video/
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    Mickelham, it looks like you were lucky you got away

    Matthew Feeney Pleads Not Guilty (Video)

    Posted on October 19, 2012

    Topics: Matthew Feeney

    [Webmaster’s Note: Matthew Feeney is a graduate of Saint John’s University and former youth minister at Saint Joseph Church in Saint Joseph, Minnesota.]
    STILLWATER, Minn. (KMSP) – Not guilty!

    That’s a how a local talent agent pleaded Thursday morning to charges he molested two brothers who wanted to be actors.

    Matthew Feeney is charged with criminal sexual conduct, accused of enticing the teenage boys to his home with movies, video games and paid acting jobs.

    Also revealed in court Thursday: prosecutors hope to include evidence of four other times Feeney was accused of molesting boys — three cases in Minnesota from the 1990s and one from 2010 in Massachusetts.

    Feeney’s attorneys will fight to keep the jury from hearing about those other accusations.

    Read more: http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story...ads-not-guilty
    http://www.behindthepinecurtain.com/...-guilty-video/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrown324320 View Post
    wouldn't it be unusual for Parnell to be familiar with the backroads of St Josephs? It looks like he was from California. I wouldn't exclude him, I would put him farther down on my suspect list.
    I still believe there was a pedo ring operating in the area using cb radio to communicate, tell others when there were children playing unsupervised and set up places and times to gather to share pictures. SJSU had a cb radio for their security guards, MF had one, Kevin had one. If you google CB radio dictionary, "lot lizard" was prostitute and "buffalo" was male prostitute. Maybe some LE participated.
    Yes, I would agree with the bolded part. I posted his name in here because I think he should be borne in mind when we're discussing alternative theories of the crime, but I don't consider him anything like the most likely suspect. Minnesota is far from Parnell's known stamping grounds, so even though he was a nomadic type who feasibly could have wandered that far from home, its not terribly likely.

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    I agree on the possibility of Feeney, he was so involved with youth groups and kids in the St. Joe area. It would be interesting to find out how he was cleared twice by LE.

    Here’s another contender for possible POI. Meemken was a Stearns County sergeant (possibly only a deputy back in 1989). He has multiple convictions for pornography, pedophilia, etc. (see article linked below) Meemken is 45 now, so you may think he’s too young to have been involved in Jacob’s abduction. He would have been the same age as Kevin in 1989.

    Judge sentences Meemken to prison
    Former Stearns County sheriff’s Sgt. Phil Meemken has been sentenced to two years in prison after admitting that he violated the terms of his probation from a sex offense conviction.

    Meemken, 45, was using marijuana and methamphetamine, failed to complete sex offender treatment, possessed pornography and failed to keep in contact with his probation agent, according to court records. He had been on probation since June 2012, when he was sentenced after pleading guilty to one count of fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct and two counts of providing alcohol to a minor.

    http://www.sctimes.com/story/news/lo...ison/71717450/

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    Quote Originally Posted by shergal View Post
    I agree on the possibility of Feeney, he was so involved with youth groups and kids in the St. Joe area. It would be interesting to find out how he was cleared twice by LE.

    Here’s another contender for possible POI. Meemken was a Stearns County sergeant (possibly only a deputy back in 1989). He has multiple convictions for pornography, pedophilia, etc. (see article linked below) Meemken is 45 now, so you may think he’s too young to have been involved in Jacob’s abduction. He would have been the same age as Kevin in 1989.

    Judge sentences Meemken to prison
    Former Stearns County sheriff’s Sgt. Phil Meemken has been sentenced to two years in prison after admitting that he violated the terms of his probation from a sex offense conviction.

    Meemken, 45, was using marijuana and methamphetamine, failed to complete sex offender treatment, possessed pornography and failed to keep in contact with his probation agent, according to court records. He had been on probation since June 2012, when he was sentenced after pleading guilty to one count of fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct and two counts of providing alcohol to a minor.

    http://www.sctimes.com/story/news/lo...ison/71717450/
    His use of methamphetamines could tie him to an abduction and murder. Has he been investigated in regards to the Wetterling case? Like has Aaron and Trevor ever been called in to vet this one?
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    Many of the individuals listed in the who's who thread seemed to groom their victims, abused the same ones over a period of years or had multiple victims but no history of murdering them. Jacob's case is different- he was snatched (in front of two witnesses) and has never been seen since.

    I realize there are many types of pedophiles, (i.e. groomers, victimize and release, repeatedly victimize same child, kidnap and keep, kidnap and murder) and there seemed to be a rash of attempted abductions or at the least, something strange going on in that area before and after Jacob's abduction. Is it possible someone with a history like Parnell's or Devlin's was passing though MN (or even from a neighbouring town) and took Jacob?

    I keep going back to the number of young boys who went missing in the mid to late 80's across the US and those pictures that surfaced years later that many suspect contained an image of JG. We've heard of women in recent years who are being trafficked for money, is it too far fetched to believe the same was happening years ago with young males?

    Mossad keeps dropping bread crumbs in the direction of someone local. Jared was released. If the same perp took Jacob then why not release him too, unless something went horribly wrong or Jacob recognized him?
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    I don't think anyone knows. If they do, don't you think LE should be told?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenotebook View Post
    Which matches perfectly with the weird 'medical cop' sitting in the parking lot just minutes after the abduction.
    I'd love to know how/why LE was able to 'clear' Feeney. Seems to be too many odd coincidences with him in the area, on Jacob's actual street at the time of the abduction, has radios in his car, his perverted history, etc.
    ^^^this^^^

    Assuming the email sent to the website is accurate, MF has voluntarily placed himself at the right time and place to abduct Jacob. This little email is something of an alibi-explanation to anyone who might have seen him that night in all the wrong places. Sounds like BS, sounds like Kevin's story to me - meant to explain why he might be sighted all over the place that night.

    Who wants to try to verify if MF really dropped off a kid that night?
    ...and even if he did....
    he could still be involved in Jacob's crime. This is just too coincidental. You don't have an alcoholic and a missing bottle of booze without thinking the alcoholic drank it.

    Quote Originally Posted by shergal View Post
    ..., so you may think he’s too young to have been involved in Jacob’s abduction. He would have been the same age as Kevin in 1989....
    You might read any of the criminal profiling books by Ressler or Douglas.
    Teenagers can't get away with sophisticated crimes. They are inexperienced, irrational, immature. It just never happens. They make mistakes all over the place and invariably get caught (or at least identified) within a few days of any crime they commit.

    I'm not saying don't look at this guy, I'm saying this crime is too much for a boy like him or Kevin to pull off...but both of them still have some explaining to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by puppyraiser View Post
    Many of the individuals listed in the who's who thread seemed to groom their victims, abused the same ones over a period of years or had multiple victims but no history of murdering them. Jacob's case is different- he was snatched (in front of two witnesses) and has never been seen since. ...
    Right, Jacob's case points to something very different. In fact, most sex crimes and most violent crimes in general are not 'stranger danger' crimes, they are from someone known. Most sex criminals groom their victims, and those that are snatcher types tend to be disorganized, leave clues, etc. because they are truly disturbed and not thinking rationally.

    Also, no one all of the sudden becomes a sex criminal in their mid 30s. There is always a pettern before and after. Likewise, no one starts at age 19 with the ability to abduct a boy forever and get away with it.





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    Quote Originally Posted by puppyraiser View Post
    Many of the individuals listed in the who's who thread seemed to groom their victims, abused the same ones over a period of years or had multiple victims but no history of murdering them. Jacob's case is different- he was snatched (in front of two witnesses) and has never been seen since.

    I realize there are many types of pedophiles, (i.e. groomers, victimize and release, repeatedly victimize same child, kidnap and keep, kidnap and murder) and there seemed to be a rash of attempted abductions or at the least, something strange going on in that area before and after Jacob's abduction. Is it possible someone with a history like Parnell's or Devlin's was passing though MN (or even from a neighbouring town) and took Jacob?

    I keep going back to the number of young boys who went missing in the mid to late 80's across the US and those pictures that surfaced years later that many suspect contained an image of JG. We've heard of women in recent years who are being trafficked for money, is it too far fetched to believe the same was happening years ago with young males?


    Mossad keeps dropping bread crumbs in the direction of someone local. Jared was released. If the same perp took Jacob then why not release him too, unless something went horribly wrong or Jacob recognized him?
    Part in bold - the claims that those pictures are of Johnny Gosch lack credibility to say the least. And while I've no doubt there was, and still is, a trafficking business specialising in children, I don't believe that they snatched children like Gosch, Wetterling etc. Those who engage in people trafficking don't snatch middle class women from secure families who will search for them off the side of the road - they exploit women from poor countries who are desparate to get into America, or they exploit women who are runaway or throwaway or somehow down on their luck. I see no reason to believe that child traffickers would behave any different.

    As for the question in your last paragraph - Jared's abductor asked him repeatedly if he could recognise him, and Jared said no. Yet when Jared went to the police he was able to give a complete enough description for them to produce a picture to release to the media. If the kidnapper saw that, and he most likely did if he was local, that would reduce the chances of his next victim being allowed to live to tell the tale.

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    You'd think LE would have been told or know by now but that's obviously not the case.
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