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    TX - 2 High School Students in San Antonio Football Game Assault referee, 4 Sept 2015

    Unbelievable. Two football players from John Jay High School in San Antonio tackle and assault a referee. Two other players from John Jay were earlier ejected for "trash talking" other players.

    Now, these students who attacked the ref claim the ref called them racist names.

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/h...th-6487775.php

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    They both should be charged with assault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeannaT View Post
    Unbelievable. Two football players from John Jay High School in San Antonio tackle and assault a referee. Two other players from John Jay were earlier ejected for "trash talking" other players.

    Now, these students who attacked the ref claim the ref called them racist names.

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/h...th-6487775.php
    Not seeing anything in link about players saying ref called them racist names, could have missed it. A source, if handy. TIA.

    From link: "Two John Jay High School football players who appear to have deliberately tackled a referee during a game Friday night, have been suspended from school as well as the team, officials said Sunday." bbm

    Yes, from both angles of linked vid, certainly did appear to have been deliberate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by al66pine View Post
    Not seeing anything in link about players saying ref called them racist names, could have missed it. A source, if handy. TIA.

    From link: "Two John Jay High School football players who appear to have deliberately tackled a referee during a game Friday night, have been suspended from school as well as the team, officials said Sunday." bbm

    Yes, from both angles of linked vid, certainly did appear to have been deliberate.
    I didn't see the racist names part either.

    “The question of what instigated that is what we’re trying to figure out,” Laing said.

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    Oops. Spoke too soon.

    Texas high school players allege referee in incident used racial slurs

    SAN ANTONIO -- Officials with a San Antonio school district say two football players accused of ramming into a referee during a high school game allege the referee directed racial slurs at them.

    Northside Independent School District Superintendent Brian T. Woods says an assistant football coach accused of suggesting the students retaliate against the referee has been placed on leave.
    http://espn.go.com/moresports/story/...d-racial-slurs

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    Kinda have my doubts about the racial slurs. But even if it did happen, there was a more official and less violent way to handle it.

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    I completely don't believe there were any racial slurs stated by the ref. I think that's a complete smoke screen, an attempt to justify attacking him.

    Here's what's come out on radio, and in the news:

    Early in the game, 2 players were ejected for trash talking the other team. One of the players was John Jay's star player. They began to lose the game. The assistant coach then said that ref "needs to pay for cheating us", an apparent reference to kicking out the player that would have probably led John Jay to a win. The two tackled the ref, and then the ref ejected one of the tacklers, and accidentally ejected the wrong guy that he thought had headbutted him with the helmet, leaving the truly guilty player still in the game. With one more play to go, the last play of the game, the one guilty of head butting the ref took a late hit on Marble Falls QB , in an illegal tackle that is illegal because it can ruin a player's knees forever. Thankfully, the QB was not injured as intended. Even though the game was over at that point, the ref took the sanction of ejecting that player for the assaultive late hit.

    This is all over the news here, all the statements in my summary have been in MSM. I hope the assistant coach and the 2 players are charged with crimes, the coach and two players never are allowed near UIL football again, and the ref is successful in lawsuits against those who have libeled and slandered him.

    The game was played in Marble Falls, so it's up to LE and Marble Falls prosecutors to decide whether to press charges, and it sounds like as of yesterday they were headed to criminal court.

    http://usatodayhss.com/2015/assistan...geting-referee
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    We had a nearly identical case when I lived in Los Angeles, with the same defense, "the ref called us the 'N word'".

    I didn't believe it then and I don't believe it now. In both cases, only the assaulting players seemed to hear the alleged slurs. And any ref who used such slurs so casually would have been found out long before.

    But even if it were true, since when does a verbal slur justify violence?

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    I do not believe the ref used any racist slurs. I think they players were angry because the ref threw some star players out of the game earlier. They made the racial slur accusation as a way to justify their actions, imo.
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    That ref could have been paralyzed.
    What bratty kids. Smdh.


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    Bratty? The video I saw depicted an assault with intent to commit great bodily harm. Those 2 players are Felons, not brats. The hits they laid on the defenseless ref could have caused life threatening injuries. They should both be in jail. JMO MOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by MHOrgel View Post
    Bratty? The video I saw depicted an assault with intent to commit great bodily harm. Those 2 players are Felons, not brats. The hits they laid on the defenseless ref could have caused life threatening injuries. They should both be in jail. JMO MOO
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    Too easy on both of them to use the word "bratty". You are correct... Just re-watched the video and it looks like they meant to injure him. That is indeed an assault.
    And I don't care how good of a sports player someone is; doing something wrong does not mean they should get a free pass -- just because their on-field performance is good.

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    Yes, it's obvious they did mean to injure him. And it's entirely possible that he could have been injured very badly. Two helmeted, padded football players vs. one non-padded non-helmeted ref who didn't even see them coming. He could easily have sustained a broken neck or back.

    Aggravated battery at the very least.

    Expulsion and criminal charges are needed here.
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    'They are flat-out lying': 'Blindsided' Texas referee filmed being tackled by two players during football game denies directing racial slurs at the students

    John Jay High School were losing to Marble Falls when tackle took place

    Referee appeared to have been deliberately hit by two John Jay players

    Pair alleged that official used 'racist slur' against them before the incident

    Attorney for referee Robert Watts said he is now considering legal action

    Said players using 'common tactic' to make victim of crime responsible

    Watts says he prefers to 'keep quiet' but spoke after being 'slandered'

    Players named locally as sophomore Victor Rojas and senior Mike Moreno

    Under Texas law, they face six months behind bars and up to $2,000 fine


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3lO4NS0p0

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    Washington Post:

    Sports don’t build character so much as they expose it

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    “I turned to the doctoral student who told me to take a look at it,” Sharon Stoll recalled, “and said, ‘Those kids didn’t come up with this on their own. Someone told them to do it.’ ”
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