Quite obvisously it wasn't, as the 2004 evacuee plan failed miserably and wasn't followed even then.Pepper said:
Tom'sGirl said:Quite obvisously it wasn't, as the 2004 evacuee plan failed miserably and wasn't followed even then.
These were not "Shelters Of Last Resort" Or "Supershelters" as noted in the report. I have seen other shelters named BUT I believe some of them may have flooded or been evacuated to OTHER shelters when the levees failed. It appears that most people either went to the Superdome OR to the Convention Center - which was NOT a shelter. Think people thought that ANY big public building would accomodate them?Pepper said:http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26
I don't recall any of these shelters even being mentioned.
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kgeaux said:The governor is to authorize the opening of shelters in non-emergency parishes. This was not done. Not for nearly an entire week after the hurricane, and then when they were opened, it was at the directive of the Red Cross.
I think the lack of shelters away from the New Orleans area kept many people at home. Those who do not have credit cards or large amounts of cash cannot afford to stay in a hotel for days on end. Some evacuees had friends and families to take them in, but even today I was standing in line at Walmart with a lady from Metarie who is STILL in a hotel. Her credit cards are about to max out and she is waiting to receive money from FEMA or the Red Cross.
No credit cards plus no free shelters equaled my family and I must stay home.
dang, I had to edit about a hundred times. Sorry about spelling, grammar, etc.
concernedperson said:No you are not alone. These apologists don't recognize what it means to scrape by.The average income in the US doesn't apply to everyone only the top 20% can be above any repercussion.The rest of people don't rely on the government but are classified as the working poor. Oh, boohoo, then they should die. NOT!I am not suggesting a socialist republic but why can't we have national health care like the Canadiens?
Is it a cleansing of America?I am so questioning right now. I completely agree that there were no drivers no matter how many busses were available. I heard Nagin scream when there was no help. I heard his pain and I heard a lot of pain. I don't think he is the man to lead New Orleans to the future but I have to accept that he was acknowledging a lot of wrongs. Even if it was to call attention.And I personally think he was calling attention and has no intention of furthering his political future.He is done but he need what was right. FEMA boy is gone.kgeaux said:Other things that weren't done or didn't follow the plan:
The plan calls for staging areas to pick up people and move them to safety in host parishes. This was not done. Any people who were picked up were sent to shelters of last resort, like the Super Dome. I'm not sure why, except that I believe calling for a mandatory evacuation a mere 20 hours before expected landfall is cutting it a little close.
The school bus thing obviously went terribly wrong. I have *heard* but not seen in print, that the drivers evacuated, so busses were available, but no one there to drive and pick up the people.
concernedperson said:Is it a cleansing of America?I am so questioning right now. I completely agree that there were no drivers no matter how many busses were available. I heard Nagin scream when there was no help. I heard his pain and I heard a lot of pain. I don't think he is the man to lead New Orleans to the future but I have to accept that he was acknowledging a lot of wrongs. Even if it was to call attention.And I personally think he was calling attention and has no intention of furthering his political future.He is done but he need what was right. FEMA boy is gone.
BirdieBoo said:Having a car but nowhere to go means that people do not really understand the meaning of evacuating. If you have a car but nowhere to go, you need to go away from the area and find a safe place away from the area . There is evacuating, and then there is having a family evacuation plan. The two are not mutually exclusive. I'm not blaming the people who didn't evacuate, I am wondering how the evacuation order was understood by them.
Not having a plan should not keep people from evacuating when their lives are in danger, I wonder how many of the people who had a car but nowhere to go really understood that their very lives were in danger?
BirdieBoo said:Let me clarify, by "a safe place", I meant a place away from the immediate crisis.
I do understand that many people do not have funds to stay in hotels, but to me, I would think it would be better to be sleeping in my car at a wal mart parking lot or some such... than living in sewage, amongst rapists, snipers, looters and other mayhem, or worse, dead.
tybee204 said:The reality is it would take at a minimum 72 hours of around the clock bus's trains etc to evacuate a region the size of the New Orleans area. The 24 hour Mandatory evacuation notice rendered it impossible to evacuate new Orleans.